I need to know if infusing cannabis into olive oil has the same medical benefits as RSO. I've never made RSO and I'm not really wanting to use a solvent to make medicine for my grandmother. I do make edibles with organic extra virgin olive oil and I think this should have the same medical benefits, am I right?
RSO vs Infused EVO medical benifits
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Blunter the kid
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RSO can be made by simply soaking your plant material in warmed olive oil to extract all the cannabinoids.
Essential oils with natural healing properties can also be added to assist in various applications, sacred frankincense is a good additive for it's cancer fighting properties and can work synergistically with the terpenes already inside the cannabis olive oil tincture.
Edit: It would be good to grow a cbd strain, most old folks don't like how the proportion of high THC to low CBD's in most of the popular strains makes them feel.
Essential oils with natural healing properties can also be added to assist in various applications, sacred frankincense is a good additive for it's cancer fighting properties and can work synergistically with the terpenes already inside the cannabis olive oil tincture.
Edit: It would be good to grow a cbd strain, most old folks don't like how the proportion of high THC to low CBD's in most of the popular strains makes them feel.
chuck estevez
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regardless of how they feel, It is the THC which has the cancer fighting properties. High cbd is for seizures and pain relief.
Twitch
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when you make RSO the ISO forcefully removes all the stuff you want, when you do this soak it is only taking the stuff that is soluble in oil out..
I do not believe you will end up with anything close to RSO, I mean it is ISO alcohol in a crock pot for 24 hours that is going to pull just about everything out if the plant. that is why I believe with RSO it is more then just thc and cbd I think it is a combination of all of the stuff that make up the pot plant extracted in a concentrated form... but that is just me
I do not believe you will end up with anything close to RSO, I mean it is ISO alcohol in a crock pot for 24 hours that is going to pull just about everything out if the plant. that is why I believe with RSO it is more then just thc and cbd I think it is a combination of all of the stuff that make up the pot plant extracted in a concentrated form... but that is just me
Blunter the kid
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Your not wrong, ISO oil could be used because it extracts everything you want and more.
RSO is about as simple as it gets... You can soak your material in whatever solvent you choose, but the idea of using olive oil is obviously more attractive than isopropyl alcohol.
Olive oil wouldn't have been suggested as a solvent if it wasn't as efficient and non toxic as it is.
WarMachine
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I agree with twitch, I feel with at least food grade alchohol you can get the most of the material. Even with 151 Everclear compared to 190. But 190 would be ideal. I personally never heard of olive oil being used this way? Can someone further prove that this is true? I'm not saying it's not.. I would love to use olive oil too if it was legit, I have always used ISO, Etoh, or butane.
Blunter the kid
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Here's the website I was citing the info from.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/index/index.php?tpl=faq&red=faqlist&id=275&lng=en
This website states that when making medicinal oil it would be optimal to use olive oil because it has similar extraction efficiency for cannabinoids and terpenes as ethanol does except it doesn't extract chlorophyll, which may not taste the best so it's sometimes better to exclude it to make the medication more palatable.
Ethanol is still a good solvent to use but not everyone likes the taste or can handle the chlorophyll.
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GrowinDad
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100% organic ethanol...
http://organicalcohol.com/store/index.php/products/
Make ur RSO with it and then you can have her eat straight, mix into olive oil, whatever.
http://organicalcohol.com/store/index.php/products/
Make ur RSO with it and then you can have her eat straight, mix into olive oil, whatever.
I understand what your saying about more, but we're talking about a rice size dose of RSO vs a small piece of a brownie, dose wise.
I currently use organic EVO from whole foods and infuse it in a crock pot over night. then I use a 1/3 of a cup to make brownies. A 1x1 square piece will keep me medicated for 4-5 hours and I have a pretty high tolerance.
I sent my mother some yesterday and told her to just give my grandmother a small pinch to start with. I don't really want to get her stoned.
I sent my mother some yesterday and told her to just give my grandmother a small pinch to start with. I don't really want to get her stoned.
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This got me thinking, my cousin makes moonshine, maybe I can use that to make oil.
Food for thought:
A simplistic answer; all you need is a solvent to break down the cuticle that surrounds the glandular head of the trichome. It’ll be a dual extraction if you’re after material contained in the veg material.
I use the dielectric constant to evaluate the likely hood of a particular solvents ability to dissolve np vs polar material. Generally speaking anything above 15 is considered polar and less non. Obviously this is a relative scale.
Here’s some samples; H20=80, Glycerin=40-60, Ethanol=24-25, IPA=18, PEG=12, Olive Oil=3.3, Butane=1.4.
The problem with MJ as a drug of choice is that technical information in terms of which chemical elements actually have what effect on a particular disease are difficult to come by. So as users, it becomes an empirical process of discovery. Hence, I find these forums invaluable.
Hope this helps.
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Blunter the kid
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It's up to you if you want to extract the chlorophyll along with the cannabinoids, chlorophyll has medicinal properties in itself but has a taste that most people find undesirable when it's concentrated like it is in an ethanolic tincture.
I've also read something saying if your taking RSO in paste form, it's best to dilute your daily dose in ethanol or olive oil to help with absorption.
I'm not suggesting olive oil because I think it's a better choice, I'm suggesting olive oil because most folks would be more willing to take their medicine daily if they can stand the taste.
When I make RSO I use ethanol and add essential oils of lime, lavender, jasmine and frankincense resin, but I don't mind the taste of the chlorophyll so I don't use olive oil, it's really just preference :/
I've also read something saying if your taking RSO in paste form, it's best to dilute your daily dose in ethanol or olive oil to help with absorption.
I'm not suggesting olive oil because I think it's a better choice, I'm suggesting olive oil because most folks would be more willing to take their medicine daily if they can stand the taste.
When I make RSO I use ethanol and add essential oils of lime, lavender, jasmine and frankincense resin, but I don't mind the taste of the chlorophyll so I don't use olive oil, it's really just preference :/
**update 11/19/2014**
I've had my grandma eating brownies and cookies for a couple months now and she loves them. She is 76 yo and never used cannabis before and she was/is a little old southern baptist that was against marijuana, like all old religious people. The cancer tumor shrunk in just a couple months and she said that she felt better than ever. Her blood pressure stabilized and her blood sugars also stabilized.
Today she had the tumor removed. The dr said it was the easiest he ever removed, it just scraped off. I 1000% believe I, along with my cannabis oil, helped to save her life. It's things like this that reaffirm my belief in the healing powers of cannabis.
I started making qwiso and using that for my edibles now. It works so much better than olive oil and it doesn't stink up my house when I make it. Thanks everyone that responded in this thread.
I've had my grandma eating brownies and cookies for a couple months now and she loves them. She is 76 yo and never used cannabis before and she was/is a little old southern baptist that was against marijuana, like all old religious people. The cancer tumor shrunk in just a couple months and she said that she felt better than ever. Her blood pressure stabilized and her blood sugars also stabilized.
Today she had the tumor removed. The dr said it was the easiest he ever removed, it just scraped off. I 1000% believe I, along with my cannabis oil, helped to save her life. It's things like this that reaffirm my belief in the healing powers of cannabis.
I started making qwiso and using that for my edibles now. It works so much better than olive oil and it doesn't stink up my house when I make it. Thanks everyone that responded in this thread.