Advanced Nutrients for Newb's?

[chuck estevez]

 

[BROBIE]

Wow, another Pik...U so funny .

 

[BROBIE]

He is like Towlie, you say anything about AN in a thread and he shows up.
Don't forget to bring your Assclown!!!!(brobie)

Because you guys do too LOL. EXACTLY ....Ha hahahahahahah .... Towel calling the towel blue. What a retard

 

[chuck estevez]

Wow, another Pik...U so funny .

What do they call the division you work in at AN? Internet Assclown Rep?

 

[BROBIE]

What do they call the division you work in at AN? Internet Assclown Rep?

That came from your brain this time ...I can tell

 

[chuck estevez]

Job Duties,
Seek Out anyone who hates on AN and fight with them,
May have to do the internet tough guy thing and threaten violence.
posts pics of AN products.
Never posts pics of actual grows
Change screen name often.
The bigger the ass hat, the better.

 

[homebrewer]

Your test was flawed because of that fact. Must I again spell it out for you?

So just to be clear, you're saying that AN products contain fewer mineral salts than an EC meter might indicate?

 

[BROBIE]

So just to be clear, you're saying that AN products contain fewer mineral salts than an EC meter might indicate?

Holy fuck child. Soup A reads 2.0 Soup B reads 1.0 - Soup A has abcd salts + cdefg Soup B has abcd salts only

 

[BROBIE]

Job Duties,
Seek Out anyone who hates on AN and fight with them,
May have to do the internet tough guy thing and threaten violence.
posts pics of AN products.
Never posts pics of actual grows
Change screen name often.
The bigger the ass hat, the better.

You got me. I'm curling up in the fetal position now.................

 

[homebrewer]

Holy fuck child. Soup A reads 2.0 Soup B reads 1.0 - Soup A has abcd salts + cdefg Soup B has abcd salts only

In my test, I used each part in equal amounts totaling a target EC so I have no idea what you're saying above. You said earlier that an EC meter reads other things other than salts. So you're saying that AN's bottles are even more diluted than they appear?

 

[BROBIE]

In my test, I used each part in equal amounts totaling a target EC so I have no idea what you're saying above. You said earlier that an EC meter reads other things other than salts. So you're saying that AN's bottles are even more diluted than they appear?

Yes ..exactly. It sucks and Dyna is the only way to go. AN is for pussies. A real man uses Dyna Grow

 

[chuck estevez]

Yes ..exactly. It sucks and Dyna is the only way to go. AN is for pussies. A real man uses Dyna Grow

you won't get paid for that. just sayin!!!

 

[BROBIE]

you won't get paid for that. just sayin!!!

just sayin!!!................. wow

 

[BROBIE]

In my test, I used each part in equal amounts totaling a target EC so I have no idea what you're saying above. You said earlier that an EC meter reads other things other than salts. So you're saying that AN's bottles are even more diluted than they appear?

Soup A = abcd + efg Soup B = abcd.
abcd = salt. EC = 1.0
efg = EC of 1 efg = everything else that blows dyna to shame.
abcd + efg = EC of 2
Simple.

 

[chuck estevez]

Soup A = abcd + efg Soup B = abcd.
abcd = salt. EC = 1.0
efg = EC of 1 efg = everything else that blows dyna to shame.
abcd + efg = EC of 2
Simple.

simple

 

[Mr.Head]

* All ppm pens actually measure the value based on EC and then convert the EC value to display the ppm value, having different conversion factors between differing manufacturers is why we have this problem communicating nutrient measurments between one another.

EC is measured in millisiemens per centimeter (ms/cm) or microsiemens per centimeter (us/cm).

One millisiemen = 1000 microsiemens.

EC and CF (Conductivity Factor) are easily converted between each other.
1 ms/cm = 10 CF

"The communication problem"...
So again, the problem is that different ppm pen manufacturers use different conversion factors to calculate the ppm they display. All ppm (TDS, Total Dissolved Solids) pens actually measure in EC or CF and run a conversion program to display the reading in ppm's.

There are three conversion factors which various manufacturers use for displaying ppm's...

USA 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 500 ppm
European 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 640 ppm
Australian 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 700 ppm

Point?

If he's using the same pen to measure both solutions what's your issue?

You aren't explaining your point very well at all, I think you're trying to say that there is extra conductive material in Dyna's products that aren't nutrient salts? If that's so proof?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/ec-tds-ppm-what-are-the-differences.14207/ -source of quoted material

 

[jondamon]

Soup A = abcd + efg Soup B = abcd.
abcd = salt. EC = 1.0
efg = EC of 1 efg = everything else that blows dyna to shame.
abcd + efg = EC of 2
Simple.

I think you mean that you can't tell which soup contains what elements by EC.

Because if SoupA is EC 2 and SoupB is EC 2 then you don't know which soup had abcdefg and which soup only had abcd.

But if the user adds abcdefg into SoupA then "they" know it has abcdefg.

And the same for SoupB.

So to be fair your statement is pretty retarded.

Show me any tester that a grower would use to determine the nutrient make up of any mixed soup.

Hmmm all this talk if soups.

Anyone else hungry lol.


J

 

[BROBIE]

I think you mean that you can't tell which soup contains what elements by EC.

Because if SoupA is EC 2 and SoupB is EC 2 then you don't know which soup had abcdefg and which soup only had abcd.

But if the user adds abcdefg into SoupA then "they" know it has abcdefg.

And the same for SoupB.

So to be fair your statement is pretty retarded.

Show me any tester that a grower would use to determine the nutrient make up of any mixed soup.

Hmmm all this talk if soups.

Anyone else hungry lol.


J

OK guys. Put down the pipe and concentrate. Soup A has everything that Soup B does + efg, where efg is also conductive.
How can you measure equal amounts of soup A & B to the same EC level (in this case 2) When soup A is more conductiv

 

[Mr.Head]

So what you're saying is NPK + Micro's essentially, how do you know what you're measuring? Well you don't, on either side of the argument it's about what grows better crops.

So you're saying that either AN or Dyna's measurements might be off due to the concentrations of each element of the nutrient, and that because the NPK + Micro's aren't exactly the same then the test is invalid? That's why you run the test... to find out which is more "complete" if he's only using the base and not using additives with one not the other then the test is fine.

It's about testing the companies recipe against another companies recipe. If 2.0 EC grows better crops with one brand then the other then the brand that won has a more complete nutrient solution. What's hard to grasp, we're not understanding because your point is ridiculous.

 

[homebrewer]

OK guys. Put down the pipe and concentrate. Soup A has everything that Soup B does + efg, where efg is also conductive.
How can you measure equal amounts of soup A & B to the same EC level (in this case 2) When soup A is more conductiv

When I said I used EQUAL amounts of both parts, I was talking about VOLUME. Clearly you didn't read my comparison journal.