BROBIE
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Why would you need to see my grows ? Sorry Homebrewer, its a simple plant, you have no unique skill. Get a life.
Advanced Nutrients for Newb's?
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homebrewer
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Talk is cheap, where are your grow journals?
BROBIE
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3 days in flower using Big Bud, one of my smaller grows...yea , thats it, my smaller ones
LIGHT/GENS are what makes plants big. Not AN, NOT DYNA.
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homebrewer
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Yellow, crispy plants struggling to make it to the finish line. So would you say that's operator error or your choice of plant food?
homebrewer
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I'll ask again, why are your plants closer to death than life? Is that you or your food?
Theophilus
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I ran across a post that seems to have been copied and pasted at many different forums called Finding My Nutrient Program where a test run was done using 8 different nutrient lines. Have you seen it by chance, homebrewer? Dyna Gro was Test #6. I was a little discouraged by some of what the grower had to say about DG and hoped to hear something from you, hb. I don't know if I am allowed to share any links here so here is what it says:
Test 6 - Dyna Gro = Grow (7-9-5) - Bloom (3-12-6) - Protekt (0-0-3)
This is a simple and effective chemical fertilizer. The manufacturer specializes in multi-cycle indoor flowers, things like violets and orchids. Measuring the ppm of this solution needed only minimal work considering the ingredients are strictly elemental salts. The company basically recommends a 1/2 tsp every watering of either Grow or Bloom. I ultimately decided that was the best application also with minor increases later if 12/12. As with most chemical fertilizers, nutrients are extremely available for plant absorption and fast acting. It's advisable to add a mid flowering (water only) flush mid cycle. This cleans the medium of any salt build up which will occur using these nutes. As with Test 4 I approached this test with no microbiology in mind. I lowered average PH to 5.8 + and treated the medium as more of a " hydro " environment.
As both major solutions contain plenty of nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus and micro-nutrients simply switching from Grow to Bloom upon initiating the 12/12 light cycle is entirely appropriate and effective. These chemicals work but do have some faults. Flavor and scent are absolutely diminished in comparison to more organic methods. I've always found plants grown in chemical conditions take on a less bushy appearance and tend to be taller and woodier in structure. Fewer, more efficient leaves are developed and buds are tighter and more compact. Crystallization was more than sufficient with this product and began early on in flowering.
The stand out product here was Protekt. I continue to add it to early vegetative plants even today. This is a potassium strong silicon solution. Silicon literally makes plants stronger by thickening cell walls within the plant. This helps in fighting unwanted fungal spore penetration and even helps deter plant sucking insects. It produces strong, thick skinned plants resistant to environmental stress. The extra potassium is also helpful, encouraging root development and chlorophyll production. With susceptible plants to pest and disease this addition is recommended. In later flowering this product helped in typical ways, increasing bud size and promoting carbohydrate relocation.
The final product was more generic than any other test and although potent, the dried product was my least favorite. As with many chemical/synthetics Brix levels were very low. Keep in mind this is only in comparison to the other final products involved. It was still quality, high grade marijuana. The ease of application and value here cannot be ignored. If you grow plants chemically, and are looking for simple, effective nutes this program will get good results.
Test 6 - Dyna Gro = Grow (7-9-5) - Bloom (3-12-6) - Protekt (0-0-3)
This is a simple and effective chemical fertilizer. The manufacturer specializes in multi-cycle indoor flowers, things like violets and orchids. Measuring the ppm of this solution needed only minimal work considering the ingredients are strictly elemental salts. The company basically recommends a 1/2 tsp every watering of either Grow or Bloom. I ultimately decided that was the best application also with minor increases later if 12/12. As with most chemical fertilizers, nutrients are extremely available for plant absorption and fast acting. It's advisable to add a mid flowering (water only) flush mid cycle. This cleans the medium of any salt build up which will occur using these nutes. As with Test 4 I approached this test with no microbiology in mind. I lowered average PH to 5.8 + and treated the medium as more of a " hydro " environment.
As both major solutions contain plenty of nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus and micro-nutrients simply switching from Grow to Bloom upon initiating the 12/12 light cycle is entirely appropriate and effective. These chemicals work but do have some faults. Flavor and scent are absolutely diminished in comparison to more organic methods. I've always found plants grown in chemical conditions take on a less bushy appearance and tend to be taller and woodier in structure. Fewer, more efficient leaves are developed and buds are tighter and more compact. Crystallization was more than sufficient with this product and began early on in flowering.
The stand out product here was Protekt. I continue to add it to early vegetative plants even today. This is a potassium strong silicon solution. Silicon literally makes plants stronger by thickening cell walls within the plant. This helps in fighting unwanted fungal spore penetration and even helps deter plant sucking insects. It produces strong, thick skinned plants resistant to environmental stress. The extra potassium is also helpful, encouraging root development and chlorophyll production. With susceptible plants to pest and disease this addition is recommended. In later flowering this product helped in typical ways, increasing bud size and promoting carbohydrate relocation.
The final product was more generic than any other test and although potent, the dried product was my least favorite. As with many chemical/synthetics Brix levels were very low. Keep in mind this is only in comparison to the other final products involved. It was still quality, high grade marijuana. The ease of application and value here cannot be ignored. If you grow plants chemically, and are looking for simple, effective nutes this program will get good results.
BROBIE
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Dumbass - I got that pik off the internet.
I'll ask for the 5th time : EC meters measure other things besides salt. Did you know that is why you can't take Nute A at 2 EC and Nute B at 2 EC to equal the same salts? Get some common sense when you do your retard tests
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HERB rastafari
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AN works, and it works well if you know what your doing. I have used the entire lineup for 4 years with great success. It's just too pricey. I can find the same products elsewhere for much cheaper. Try Grow More Nutes, you won't be disappointed.
homebrewer
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I've seen that writeup before but I've never seen any pictures of the test grows. Do you have a link to the pictures? As you can see in this thread alone, people talk with nothing to backup their words. When in doubt, call them out
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Theophilus
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No pictures supporting their 'findings' were offered. My last run in coco with Grow and Protekt came out looking nice. I didn't flush. I also didn't use anything else other than those two products. I was complimented on the looks. The 'tester' said it was smooth. But the one thing he did say was that it lacked flavor. It basically had no flavor. So that is now a concern I have. Anyway, I greatly appreciate the dialogue and support from you, hb.I've seen that writeup before but I've never seen any pictures of the test grows. Do you have a link to the pictures? As you can see in this thread alone, people talk with nothing to backup their words. When in doubt, call them out
homebrewer
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Flavor, in my experience, is greatly influenced by your genetics. Have any of your friends grown those same cuts and produced a much more flavorful product? If not, you may just have a mildly flavored cut on your hands.
Keep in mind that plant health and your curing technique can greatly influence the intensity of the flavor too. There are many factors at play here.
BROBIE
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I'll ask for the 6th time : EC meters measure other things besides salt. Did you know that is why you can't take Nute A at 2 EC and Nute B at 2 EC to equal the same salts? Get some common sense when you do your retard testsI've seen that writeup before but I've never seen any pictures of the test grows. Do you have a link to the pictures? As you can see in this thread alone, people talk with nothing to backup their words. When in doubt, call them out
homebrewer
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In terms of dissolved mineral salts, are you trying to say that AN's products are even more watery than they appear?
chuck estevez
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I love How This Asshat takes shots at me and HB in all his posts, we are so far in his head he dreams about ol' chuck and HB at night.LMFAO
sweet dreams SIR Ganja/Brobie,Assclown.
sweet dreams SIR Ganja/Brobie,Assclown.
jondamon
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I love it how you can't even search his profile for any threads he may have started to show his own grows.
The rest of us prove our methods on RIU for everyone to see and learn from.
J
BROBIE
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Your test was flawed because of that fact. Must I again spell it out for you?
chuck estevez
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He is like Towlie, you say anything about AN in a thread and he shows up.
Don't forget to bring your Assclown!!!!(brobie)
BROBIE
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Because you guys do too LOL. EXACTLY ....Ha hahahahahahah .... Towel calling the towel blue. What a retardHe is like Towlie, you say anything about AN in a thread and he shows up.
Don't forget to bring your Assclown!!!!(brobie)