miracle-gro? why not?

waterdawg

waterdawg

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AimAim said:
NO! This Cannot Be !

Marijuana needs really special stuff that costs lots of $ to do it correctly.

Weed growers are generally the most stupid people on earth. They just want to get high and don't have the first notion of any botanical fact.
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Well thats not very nice! Stupidest people on earth you say. Well I'll have you know that the unicorn shit I buy is the best the shop has to offer. How can that be stupid!!! I'll show you!!!
 
Rudi I&I Automan

Rudi I&I Automan

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there still not 100% organic, they just don't have enough crap in it to class as inorganic.
what have the birds dined on to make guano?
livestock cant be watched24/7, you'd never get any weed grown:bigjoint:
 
tyson53

tyson53

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back in the day say 40+ years ago...lol..all there was available was MG..Shultz...peters...and fish emulsion...so I went with MG since the name and pics on box..lol...and only bag seeds back then..no seed banks...I planted down by the river where there was good soil...at least i hoped it was...i had a water supply to mix my MG up...haha...and hoped for the best....most of the plants were always picked early due to weather in New England..I would guess most seeds planted were sativas..so long flowering...but the MG worked for us..we had plants over 10 feet...was actually good smoking...we did this all by ear..there was no Jorve books...we did not even pull the males..did not know better....those were the fun days...memories..then i went into the marines in 70...off to nam i went..smoked some crazy stuff there..wow....
 
charface

charface

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I too mostly grow organic but have tried several methods and have to say for all the shit mg gets it is working fine.
no n toxicity here.
 
tyson53

tyson53

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when i moved to my present home...30 years ago...there were no grow shops here..its in the boondocks....all i had for soil was my rich dirt and peat moss or go to a garden center and get stuff like hoffmans or MG soils....I grew in MG soils before...all we had beside my dirt in the ground..lol....I would use the bag soils or just peat moss mixed into my dirt to fluff it up some....mix in some epsoma organic ferts....and use fish emulsion....had some great bumper crops...kept it simple and grew mad green....

I tried growing indoors..i have a 10x10 tent....4 1000 watts lights...the whole sha meal..just did not like the quality of the indoor compared to the outdoors...now my tent is my drying room..lol....
 
Rudi I&I Automan

Rudi I&I Automan

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italian women place fish heads directly into the ground when they plant the peppers, i tried it and was plesantly surprised come flowering time
 
VX420

VX420

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I like MG, just fine, I think its funny to listen to people here pay 20.00+ for FF soil and then complain that 1) its to hot and 2) its always full of Gnats. Never had that Problem with MG.
 
Clown Baby

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has anyone mentioned MGs nitrogen source? That's the only reason people should prefer different fertilizers. MG nitrogen comes mostly as urea, which isn't immediately plant-available
 
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churchhaze

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Exactly. Products like Miracle grow and Jacks classic supply most of the N as urea, which doesn't work well for hydroponics systems, especially DWC. Urea as a source of N is perfectly fine in a potting mix that supplies calcium in the medium as either lime, bone meal, or other highly insoluble form of calcium.

If I was growing in soil or a lime fortified potting mix, I would definitely consider using Miracle grow.

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has anyone mentioned MGs nitrogen source? That's the only reason people should prefer different fertilizers. MG nitrogen comes mostly as urea, which isn't immediately plant-available
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VX420

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Clown Baby said:
has anyone mentioned MGs nitrogen source? That's the only reason people should prefer different fertilizers. MG nitrogen comes mostly as urea, which isn't immediately plant-available
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No MG N does not come AS Urea, it comes FROM urea, like most N does.
 
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churchhaze

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It does too come as urea. Urea is a chemical. And not all N comes in the form of urea. Some N comes in the form of NO3- and NH4+ ions.

They produce their urea SYNTHETICALLY.

In hydroponics, most N comes from NO3-.

VX420 said:
No MG N does not come AS Urea, it comes FROM urea, like most N does.
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RIKNSTEIN

RIKNSTEIN

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VX420 said:
No MG N does not come AS Urea, it comes FROM urea, like most N does.
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churchhaze said:
It does too come as urea. Urea is a chemical. And not all N comes in the form of urea. Some N comes in the form of NO3- and NH4+ ions.
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No it doesn't...Yes it does... Who cares, I have animals pee on the base of my plants outside I'm sure, my dogs always hike their legs on a tree or something and they're not dead, they're thriving...
 
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churchhaze

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I'm not talking about urine, I'm talking about urea....

There's a big difference. Most urea used in agriculture is synthetic! (AND THUS BETTER)
 
HighLife4Me

HighLife4Me

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This guy is kool with a K.

I've only been growing sense 1998 and used mg for almost 10 years. ALL mg products are high in n. Its not made for cannabis. If you'er growing good tasting cannabis with mg then you're dumping a bunch of other stuff in there. But, for my outdoor garden it works great.. For me I cant do mg indoors. Gotta be organic base with synthetic boosters.
 
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2Hearts

2Hearts

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churchhaze said:
You should make that your signature..

So there you have it... Heavy metals in organic form are okay. It's only a problem when synthetic! Only cognitive dissonance could cause this type of reasoning?
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Sorry surely you are mistaken as where in my post do i state heavy metals in organic form are ok?

I dont think thats what i said, implied or endorsed and after i read subsequent posts i see the subjet was expanded anyway.
 
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