Members telling me my plants are hermies?

[kDude]

it's true, we've been incorrectly calling them hermies. it's just easier.
problems arise when an actual true hermie shows up.

i just call em late bloom nana's now.

be nice if the terminology was different.. if we termed them separately as hermie (a plant with a few nans) and intersexed (full male and female). but they're one in the same by definition.

 

[2Hearts]

I studied plant genetics and the term bisexual is a preferance and not in the syllabus.

Please dont post learning links but actually explai the genetics that relate to a plant being a hermie.

I have stated only one way and that is if you look at the genetics and it has the genes to produce a certain protein we shall call a hormone that triggers male growth on a female plant. It is predispositioned to be a herrmie and contains both male and female.

The rest isnt a hermie just some misunderstood phenomenon of nature + hormone response to stress/collodial silver/radiation etc...

 

[2Hearts]

Well said, plant terms are based on genetics and would be great if wed stop calling every plant with the odd bannana a hermie.

it's true, we've been incorrectly calling them hermies. it's just easier.
problems arise when an actual true hermie shows up.

i just call em late bloom nana's now.

be nice if the terminology was different.. if we termed them separately as hermie (a plant with a few nans) and intersexed (full male and female). but they're one in the same by definition.

 

[2Hearts]

Some strains have unstable genetics. ..Some hermie naturally as a last ditch effort to reproduce some are we 2nnnBut regardless what the reason is a hermie is a hermie....it's like my homie nelson...I don't give a shit if he's light skinned that niggas black...I think your over thinking it it's a hermie no matter which way it it goes about getting there..it is was it is..

Unstable genetics refer to backcrossing etc (and would people stop saying obviously wrong stuff )
and would more refer to wether the plant was uniform to her parents and desired dominant traits or wether it would have them mixed up.

Wow!!!

 

[mr sunshine]

Well said, plant terms are based on genetics and would be great if wed stop calling every plant with the odd bannana a hermie.

But it is a hemie.. look up the definition of hermanferdite are you saying when a male part shows up on a female it is not a hermie?

 

[2Hearts]

Some strains have unstable genetics. ..Some hermie naturally as a last ditch effort to reproduce some are we 2nnnBut regardless what the reason is a hermie is a hermie....it's like my homie nelson...I don't give a shit if he's light skinned that niggas black...I think your over thinking it it's a hermie no matter which way it it goes about getting there..it is was it is..

Umm can i give you a link to some basic genetic lectures on youtube or would this be rude of me?

 

[mr sunshine]

Your thinking way to much bro..your talking about reasons it hermie but at the end no matter the reason turning into a hermanferdite is what it did.natrally or not!

 

[2Hearts]

No im not quite saying that...

Im more saying if it dosent have the male genetics to produce the male hormone to trigger both male/female growth at the same time (a hemaphodite) it is most certainly not a hemaphodite as classed by simple genetics, Mendels theory, many plant science centres and hopefully a phd working plant geneticist (we seem to be short of them round here)

 

[mr sunshine]

Unstable genetics refer to backcrossing etc (and would people stop saying obviously wrong stuff )
and would more refer to wether the plant was uniform to her parents and desired dominant traits or wether it would have them mixed up.

Wow!!!

Your dumb some of those unstable seeds carry undesirable traits....unless you stabilize a strain each bean you pop can be something completely different not just size and shape.. Some can be prone to herming others not so much...that's why I said unstable getetics.are you a noob?

 

[mr sunshine]

No im not quite saying that...

Im more saying if it dosent have the male genetics to produce the male hormone to trigger both male/female growth at the same time (a hemaphodite) it is most certainly not a hemaphodite as classed by simple genetics, Mendels theory, many plant science centres and hopefully a phd working plant geneticist (we seem to be short of them round here)

I get what your saying.. but it's worthless information. . Not only does it not matter..but it's also going to confuse all the noobs! Your stressing about the wrong thing....I get what your saying but in the end is it not a hermie..is that not the definition of a hermie?....forget plants im talking in general! Have you ever grown before?

 

[2Hearts]

Your thinking way to much bro..your talking about reasons it hermie but at the end no matter the reason turning into a hermanferdite is what it did.natrally or not!

Do you think plant genetics might have been formed by someone thinking way to much...

And he formed rules and all kind of complex stuff to do with plants....

And many years later he defined the laws and terms for the male female and intersexed hemaphodite...

And then on a site like this many people got together and started misquoting this over thinker....

And they said 'hey man, your overthinking things'....

Pardon me for overthinking what someone clever already overthought....

 

[2Hearts]

Stable or unstable a feminised seed dosent carry the male gene, calm down and engage the brain.

Your dumb some of those unstable seeds carry undesirable traits....unless you stabilize a strain each bean you pop can be something completely different not just size and shape.. Some can be prone to herming others not so much...that's why I said unstable getetics.are you a noob?

 

[althor]

They are both hermies, they have different distinctions in botany, seems many different names are used to describe the late nanner hermies, but both are types of hermies. So the "members" are right telling you that it is a hermie.

 

[2Hearts]

I get what your saying.. but it's worthless information. . Not only does it not matter..but it's also going to confuse all the noobs! Your stressing about the wrong thing....I get what your saying but in the end is it not a hermie..is that not the definition of a hermie?....forget plants im talking in general! Have you ever grown before?

Confuse the noobs???

Like telling them their tap water is bad lol...

Seriously dude if you tell the noobs (bad word everyone was at one point) the truth and that was the concencus it would be a lot more easier for them and a lot less worry too.

Ive heard some stuff in my time, your asking me to lie to new growers looking for an answer because you think your way is better for them.....what happens if after being here they get a job in a plant lab and their collegues bash the hell out of them for their explanation of a hemaphoditic gene explanation?

 

[2Hearts]

They are both hermies, they have different distinctions in botany, seems many different names are used to describe the late nanner hermies, but both are types of hermies. So the "members" are right telling you that it is a hermie.

Only one thing in nature is a hermie and quite frankly im getting bored of repeating it and botany would differentiate between both and so should members reguardless of the MANY names.....

 

[mr sunshine]

Stable or unstable a feminised seed dosent carry the male gene, calm down and engage the brain.

If I show you a female plant with male flowers and asked you what it was what would you say it is ? All female? That would be a lie wouldn't it?

 

[IHaveSixCats]

I had a few one year. Got rid of them right away.

 

[charface]

A plant that is coming to the end of its life is under stress to reproduce.
There is the source of stress

 

[2Hearts]

A plant that is coming to the end of its life is under stress to reproduce.
There is the source of stress

This i can dig

 

[IHaveSixCats]

I just read that page and holy crap I know have learned something new.