hydrogreen65
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You say it raises humidity, but yet turn right around and say you spray buds with water at e d of flower. Lmao
The Lost Art of Foliar Feeding
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tyson53
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Why would you spray buds with water...especially near finish time...bad info.thats a good way to promote bud rot..
good reading on folair feeding http://www.ecochem.com/t_foliar.html
good reading on folair feeding http://www.ecochem.com/t_foliar.html
josiahlee420dailyyy
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I'm sure that rain water has many nutrients. They may be in miniscule amounts but in nature if it rains enough to support a marijuana plant then the plants are probably taking in a great deal of nutrients through their leaves. I'm no scientist though, I just play one in my lab.
HighLife4Me
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lost indeed. Been years. wait! i did spry water on some leaves that got dirty after a transplant yesterday.
churchhaze
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foliar feeding is pointless unless the goal is to raise humidity.
josiahlee420dailyyy
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I would and wouldn't say that...Probably 85-95% of the time people are just evaporating expensive nutrients. Pissing in the wind Perse'. I do use it to raise humidity and If I ever have a problem with a lock out due to soil issues ( over watering/over nutes, ph, root rot..etc. Sometimes it's the only way to get nutrients to a plant until you can figure out what's up with the soil. But I agree that most of the time you should only be spraying to raise humidity and this can be done with tap water. Not a concoction of secret nutes.
budman111
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Its good for a quick Calcium deficiency remedy and that's about it.
That seems contradictory. How would plants take in a "great deal" of nutrients through their leaves if rain water has "miniscule amounts" of nutrients?
I wouldn't think there's any nutrients in rain water. Isn't rain the equivalent of distilled water? It evaporates, condenses far from any nutrient source, and falls back to where the nutrient sources are(?).
It's good for a quick N def too. Up to 6 Tbsp/Quart of household ammonia. I got the N toxicity claw in 3-4 days.
I used it when I had an unexpected ph problem locking out nutrients. I knew less about what I was doing, wasn't sure how long it would take me to fix the soil problem. Foliar fed with all-purpose nutrients while I figured it out. It kept the plant alive when I thought it was hopeless. Got over 4 oz off it.
Foliar feeding seems pointless for a healthy plant.
josiahlee420dailyyy
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Do you even science?...Ok yes it evaps,But the atmosphere is full of other gasses and bacteria that bond and leach onto water molecules. <-true fact. The atmosphere is actually higher in Nitrogen than Oxygen. In short these chemicals and nutrients bond with water as it falls through the atmosphere. As for a little becoming a lot. You put a dollar in the bank a day for 6 months. It's not so much every day but you have enough for a new light after six month....Kind of the same. You don't have to NUKE plants for them to up take nutrients. A Little goes a long way and can build up over a long time. Just like salts that can cause lock outs. It's not something you just added all at once, but rather something that was miniscule amounts that accumulated over time. If you cannot see the similarities then that is on you, but you also thought that rain water was distilled water sooooo....Once again do you even science?
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josiahlee420dailyyy
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lol....The fact that CFC's cause acid rain should be a tail tell sign that our atmosphere isn't a pure source for water. It's full of trace elements,gasses and bacteria. But hey I'm no scientist, I just play one in a lab. Do whatever you want to do, but I find that half of this site is Kids In High school who are running 4 CFL's and saying they are growing the Dankest. I live in Colorado and have been part of 100+ plant grows so I may know a thing or two about growing marijuana. Do what you want with your plants, It's a symbiotic relationship as so. You water and feed and protect them and they in turn give you a never ending supply of smoke ( considering you can clone or pop seeds ). Most of you guys all have the same looking pictures going...WTF's wrong with my plant lol. You over water, over feed, don't check your PH and don't know the difference between rain water and distilled. LOL. Good luck growing marijuana boys and girls but this place is lame and it's like an airport for shitty opinions and assholes.
churchhaze
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churchhaze
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CFCs are not the cause of acid rain, nitrates and sulfates are. Also, nitrogen gas from the atmosphere is not responsible for the nitrates found in rainwater.
CFC has similar density to ozone and thus it tends to all go to the ozone layer. Get your scaremonger stories right!
CFC has similar density to ozone and thus it tends to all go to the ozone layer. Get your scaremonger stories right!
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Esdreel
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Features foliar fertilization
Compared with roots in soil fertilization, foliar fertilization has some special advantages:
(1) rapid absorption of nutrients, fertilizer better. Because foliar fertilization is directly sprayed on crops foliar nutrients, various nutrients can enter directly from the leaves of plants, crops directly involved in the metabolism and synthesis of organic matter, so the role of the speed and effectiveness of more than soil fertilization fast. Studies have shown that foliar application of fertilizers applied to the soil than the roots absorb nutrients faster, crop leaf nutrient absorption rate is much larger than the root, the effect is significant, production practices also confirmed this point, such as urea applied to the soil to go through 4 ~ 6 genius effective, but spraying can achieve nutrient absorption peak hours, only 1 to 2 days can be effective; foliar application of 2% superphosphate extracts, after five minutes after that they can transfer to plants all parts, and soil application of superphosphate 15 days in order to achieve this effect.
(2) targeted to meet the particularity required crop fertilizer, the crop can be timely and effective corrective element deficiencies. In the production of certain crops often need to solve physiological problems and special nutritional needs some fertilizer and fertilization, the use of soil nutrient fertilization will take some time to be absorbed by crops, crops can not be alleviated element deficiencies or meet the special needs of crops for nutrients, soil and foliar fertilization Fertility according to the situation, the level of soil for fertilizer and crop nutrient demand to determine the type and formulation of nutrients and nutrients through foliar application enables the rapid adoption of blade into the plant, and therefore, can replenish the crop nutrient deficiency or needed to effectively improve or correct the crop element deficiencies, especially trace element deficiency disease, by spraying some roots in soil supplemented with advantages unmatched fertilization can solve some of the special agricultural production problems, such as grapes withered neck caused by magnesium deficiency and fruit litter, only spraying magnesium fertilizer to be effective.
(3) make up the roots of nutrient absorption, increase crop yields and improve crop quality. When the crop roots absorb less time, such as: the late crop growth, due to the roots of aging, functional decline, poor ability to absorb nutrients, growth is difficult to meet after the late ripening crop nutrient demand, the impact of crop yields; or when the soil environment for crop growth unfavorable, water stagnation, drought, too acid, too alkaline, resulting in crop roots absorb nutrients disruption of crop growth and rapid recovery when needed, if the method is applied to the soil and manure crop needs can not be satisfied, if taken to spraying you can quickly add crop nutrition, crop growth and development to meet the needs. Studies have shown that the formation of crop yield in the dry matter, 90% to 95% from photosynthesis intensity and greatly improve enzyme activity, promote root absorption of nutrients, crop effectively promote the accumulation of organic matter, can be added by foliar fertilization of crop roots of inadequate nutrient absorption, can play seedlings, improve fruit setting rate and reduce the role of unfilled grains, thereby increasing crop yields and improve crop quality.
(4) improve nutrient utilization, reduce fertilizer usage. Because nutrient foliar spraying in effect from time through the soil, avoiding the absorption of nutrients in the soil fixation, leaching and biodegradation losses of crops that can be directly used to improve nutrient utilization. General soil fertilizer nitrogen utilization season only 25% to 30%, while foliar fertilization within 24 hours to absorb more than 70%, the amount of fertilizer soil fertilization only 1/10 to 1/5. Consequently, foliar fertilization the fertilizer use efficiency is far greater than soil and fertilizer, and can significantly reduce the amount of fertilizer to use. Studies have shown that cabbage by foliar spray fertilizer, reduce soil fertilizer in 25% of cases, you can still maintain the same output.
(5) fertilizer less dependent on soil conditions, nutrient utilization and stability. Soil fertilizer nutrient use a variety of factors influence soil temperature, humidity, salt, microorganisms and other subject, lower utilization and changes large and foliar fertilizer nutrients essential unrestricted soil conditions, utilization is relatively stable. For example in salinity, drought and other environmental, crop nutrient uptake is limited by the roots, spraying can play a very good complement.
(6) applied convenience, the state is not affected by crop growth and fertility period. Most of the crop growth period can be foliar fertilization, especially after sealing ridge crop plants grow, to root fertilization inconvenience, but largely unaffected by spraying plant height, density and other factors, nutrient type, concentration according to crop growth period and the status of regulation, in favor of mechanized operations. Some fruit trees and other deep root crops, if the traditional fertilization
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The method is applied to the roots is difficult to absorb the site, can not give full play to fertilizer, and spraying can achieve better results.
(7) ease heavy metal poisoning. Some of certain nutrients in the soil, or some heavy metal content is too high, and inhibit the absorption of other nutrients crops, adversely affect the growth of crops, soil fertilization is difficult to achieve the desired results, you can use a foliar spray to relieve some elements caused poison. For example, high levels of soil zinc deficiency can lead to crops, the impact caused due to soil fixation, soil applied iron fertilizer effect is not ideal, but iron can reduce leaf spraying zinc concentration, reduce zinc poisoning.
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foliar spraying with pesticides, plant growth regulators and other active substances used in conjunction with each other to promote and improve the absorption of the blade, enhancing crop resistance, pest control. (9) to reduce the environmental pollution caused by fertilizer, application of environmental protection and safety. As we know, a lot of soil nitrogen fertilizer, is likely to cause accumulation of nitrate in groundwater and vegetables, causing harm to human health. On soil salinization, soil fertilization can increase a lot of soil solution concentration, and increase soil salinization. Less fertilizer and foliar fertilization can control the amount and type of fertilizer, applied properly can also reduce the amount of soil fertilization, according to studies, foliar fertilizer used properly can reduce soil fertilization quarter or so, which can be avoided or reduced due to the large number of soil and water pollution caused by soil fertilization, reduce soil salinization. Therefore, foliar fertilization is an environmentally friendly fertilizer technologies.
(10) economic and simple fertilization can reduce agricultural production and investment. Foliar fertilization with manure less, the effect is good, the amount of foliar fertilization is generally 10% to 20% the amount of soil fertilization, especially for some trace elements of nutrients, not only with less fertilizer efficiency, but also to avoid excessive dosage large or uneven crop damage caused by fertilizer, which can greatly reduce the cost of investment in agricultural production of fertilizer. Foliar fertilization relatively simple roots soil fertilizer operations, to avoid soil and fertilizer due to careless handling may cause mechanical damage to crops, but also can be combined with pest control spraying chemicals mixed in, too, reducing labor costs.
Esdreel
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Second, foliar fertilizer shortage and problems
Although foliar fertilization has the above advantages, but compared with the root soil fertilizer supply nutrients, foliar spray application, there are some shortcomings and problems, with some limitations, mainly in the following aspects:
(A) the relative root fertilizing soil nutrient supply, its effect is relatively short supply of nutrients. (2) nutrients into the leaf tissue penetration is low, especially for those thick vegetation leaf cuticle
Objects, such as citrus, coffee, broccoli and the like.
(3) Due to the hydrophobic surface of the blade, the nutrient solution is sprayed into the surface of the blade is easy to slip loss. (4) influenced by climatic conditions, resulting in nutrient loss prone to rain water. (5) spraying liquid on the blade surfaces dry quickly, hindering the absorption of foliar nutrients.
(6) foliar spray once a limited amount of nutrients that can be provided, especially for a large number of nutrients nitrogen, phosphorus,
Potassium supply.
(7) certain mineral elements, especially the poor mobility of the elements, from the absorption site (mainly mature leaves
The lower sheet) to the transfer rate of other parts of the crop, such as calcium.
( prone to leaf damage, such as dead spots and "burns." Spraying nutrient or nutrient concentration is not the kind
Appropriate, generally high nutrient concentrations, leaf damage caused by foliar fertilization is a serious and common practical problems, mainly due to nutrient imbalance leaves caused partial. For example: regular application of high concentrations of urea is more prone to this phenomenon, but the accumulation of leaves Urea is the direct cause of dry spots. In addition, foliar urea is commonly used in fertilizer raw materials, but its often contain biuret, while spraying containing biuret urea, biuret damage will accumulate in the leaves, thus affecting protein synthesis, reduce nutrient absorption . General urea containing biuret
Should be less than 0.5%, preferably less than 0.25% so as not to damage the blade spraying. Trace reduce biuret urea spraying damage caused can be taken to reduce the spraying concentration, increasing the number of spraying method, adding a certain amount of sucrose in urea spraying liquid also can reduce the degree of injury.
(9) fertilization effect on the great city depends on the type and size of the leaf area of crops, crop seedlings
And leaf area of the smaller crop, the application is less effective
Although foliar fertilization has the above advantages, but compared with the root soil fertilizer supply nutrients, foliar spray application, there are some shortcomings and problems, with some limitations, mainly in the following aspects:
(A) the relative root fertilizing soil nutrient supply, its effect is relatively short supply of nutrients. (2) nutrients into the leaf tissue penetration is low, especially for those thick vegetation leaf cuticle
Objects, such as citrus, coffee, broccoli and the like.
(3) Due to the hydrophobic surface of the blade, the nutrient solution is sprayed into the surface of the blade is easy to slip loss. (4) influenced by climatic conditions, resulting in nutrient loss prone to rain water. (5) spraying liquid on the blade surfaces dry quickly, hindering the absorption of foliar nutrients.
(6) foliar spray once a limited amount of nutrients that can be provided, especially for a large number of nutrients nitrogen, phosphorus,
Potassium supply.
(7) certain mineral elements, especially the poor mobility of the elements, from the absorption site (mainly mature leaves
The lower sheet) to the transfer rate of other parts of the crop, such as calcium.
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prone to leaf damage, such as dead spots and "burns." Spraying nutrient or nutrient concentration is not the kind Appropriate, generally high nutrient concentrations, leaf damage caused by foliar fertilization is a serious and common practical problems, mainly due to nutrient imbalance leaves caused partial. For example: regular application of high concentrations of urea is more prone to this phenomenon, but the accumulation of leaves Urea is the direct cause of dry spots. In addition, foliar urea is commonly used in fertilizer raw materials, but its often contain biuret, while spraying containing biuret urea, biuret damage will accumulate in the leaves, thus affecting protein synthesis, reduce nutrient absorption . General urea containing biuret
Should be less than 0.5%, preferably less than 0.25% so as not to damage the blade spraying. Trace reduce biuret urea spraying damage caused can be taken to reduce the spraying concentration, increasing the number of spraying method, adding a certain amount of sucrose in urea spraying liquid also can reduce the degree of injury.
(9) fertilization effect on the great city depends on the type and size of the leaf area of crops, crop seedlings
And leaf area of the smaller crop, the application is less effective
josiahlee420dailyyy
Member
lol......I was just saying that rain water wasn't a "pure" source of the compound H2O. Who was scarmongering?
churchhaze
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Sorry about that, I just have a facetious sense of humor. Pesky o-zone layer....
Uncle Ben
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You're getting off on the wrong foot. Ditch the product names, learn plant nutrition and concentrate on the macros and micros in any given food. If you think you have to buy a bunch of supplements, then you have allowed yourself to be sucked into this racket. Want a great product, only one, to use from start to finish in a typical soil mix and have enough to split with your (college) graduating class of 2015? http://www.amazon.com/77900-Performance-Fertilizer-25-5-15-25-Pound/dp/B008JSIKCU/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_1
That 5-1-3 ratio or one that is a 3-1-2 is what you should be looking for.
UB
Kind Sir
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Im looking into buying that when you told me lsst time, thank you my friend. I already spent a good amount on HG, id like to learn how to grow the plant, not how to grow "weed." Looking for smaller bags of jacks, so i can get two different bags. Kind of in a pickle now, see what happeneds.