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justugh

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hi

just a idea

but what about a section for ppl looking to go legal .............u know where to get some training to apply to work in a shop

maybe away to make up a grow resume....how too and what they are looking for

a list of the basic things u need to apply certs and knownagle
 

justugh

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sweet no op has told me no it is bad

can someone please tell me when u do it ............i can really use the help to make something up to apply for grow jobs
 

Oregon Gardener

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hi

just a idea

but what about a section for ppl looking to go legal .............u know where to get some training to apply to work in a shop

maybe away to make up a grow resume....how too and what they are looking for

a list of the basic things u need to apply certs and knownagle
I have grandiose plans to have my own thing going, but when reality sets in and I'm just another shmo; how can I put this shit on a resume?
 

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justugh

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I have grandiose plans to have my own thing going, but when reality sets in and I'm just another shmo; how can I put this shit on a resume?
that is why i was asking for a section
i thought it would help RIU give a place for shop owners and other ppl to post requirements to work in their shops
more ppl more traffic and they would stand out as the place for us stoners to get help going legal
 

Oregon Gardener

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that is why i was asking for a section
i thought it would help RIU give a place for shop owners and other ppl to post requirements to work in their shops
more ppl more traffic and they would stand out as the place for us stoners to get help going legal
Do you mean , something like a state by state jobs board?
 

justugh

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Do you mean , something like a state by state jobs board?
more along the lines of a general cover all

the state to state thing might take a while and to cover self the first post should be a updated copy of state laws dealing with this subject (not just having it but making it and selling it )

i seen options for getting a growers permit then a fedex permit allowing u to legally sell to shops

i am looking for a general understanding section were someone like us can go to and start the path to legal work in a shop or supplying a shop
do they want me to have a cert in ethics
do they want me to have certs in growing
would they like me to bring in samples of what i have grown on own
do they want a detail grow report on several of the plants (if so how should that be formatted)

the biz is booming everywhere i seen different rules from state to state what u have to have ..........i want to go take the class and apply for the work
 

justugh

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a bud tender job is easy

let me sample everything we sell ....i use my 20 years plus exp of all i have smoked and info the ppl when they tell me what they are looking for plus providing some light entertainment so they feel clam and comfy in the store and spend more money
 

Oregon Gardener

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www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/
more along the lines of a general cover all

the state to state thing might take a while and to cover self the first post should be a updated copy of state laws dealing with this subject (not just having it but making it and selling it )

i seen options for getting a growers permit then a fedex permit allowing u to legally sell to shops

i am looking for a general understanding section were someone like us can go to and start the path to legal work in a shop or supplying a shop
do they want me to have a cert in ethics
do they want me to have certs in growing
would they like me to bring in samples of what i have grown on own
do they want a detail grow report on several of the plants (if so how should that be formatted)

the biz is booming everywhere i seen different rules from state to state what u have to have ..........i want to go take the class and apply for the work
Got it. :) Here is the first post. The Permanent temporary rules have peen posted by state officials in Oregon for Recreational Growers, Produces, Wholesalers, and Retailers. ( Lab testing procedures are covered on another part of the webite) These rules are comprehensive and pertain to anyone interested in working in the recreational marijuana industry.(Does NOT pertain to Medical Marijuana) .www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/
 

Oregon Gardener

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a bud tender job is easy

let me sample everything we sell ....i use my 20 years plus exp of all i have smoked and info the ppl when they tell me what they are looking for plus providing some light entertainment so they feel clam and comfy in the store and spend more money
I forgot to address the Fed -Ex thing. Did you mean resprosisity resprosicity Fuck it state to state sales. LOL
 

Oregon Gardener

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There is already several groups doing similar things now. I consult for some of them. I actually assisted in setting up several large grows. and in one case found the real estate they needed. Here is an example of one of our executive summaries. In my network, I have a lawyer, chemist, a guy with a Masters in Quantitative finance, (The Computer who wares tennis shoes) and an artist. We are always open to new ideas:)

Executive Summary:

With over 30 years of Marijuana experience in; cultivation, and propagation. 420 Creation is offering the opportunity for investors to be a part of this revolutionary “budding” experience. We have the ability to conservatively project an approximate 20,000% return on investments secured by a first deed of trust on improved real estate. Our proven methodology of utilizing the power of sun, water, air dirt, and some fertilizer, have allowed us to accumulate a plethora of hybrid seeds available to consumers, which alone could produce over $100,000 in gross revenue charging only 33% the price of the competitors, easily recouping the $2000 a year residual investment needed for propagation of that size of inventory.

To get the real “stalk” of the issue; with the observations of how the marijuana regulations and industry in Colorado and Washington recorded a presumptive model of volatility and valuation of a consistent multi-year projection was formulated. With outlined trends in supply and demand consistent with both emerging markets, our projection ignores the possible increase in baseline value spikes as demand increases during the initial development of the market. The industry trends exhibited in both Colorado and Washington, showed a lack of product along with a 60% increase in price during the initial week of sales ranging from initial retail prices of $4000 dollars a pound, to approximately $6400 a pound, where our model uses a very conservative average wholesale pricing of $1500.00 a pound, and discerning any projected increase in price during initial sales.

Along with the profit of pure wholesaling and retailing marijuana seeds in national forums such as “High Times Magazine” we will also wholesale the flowers and marijuana by- products such as the highly valued concentrates of the essential oils containing the chemical properties of THC and CBD, in a larger metropolitan area. Additionally, we will be hosting a vending stand at the Seattle Hempfest. The Seattle Hempfest is an annual conglomerate of tourists, experts and industry leaders in the cultivation of the American Marijuana business, bringing people from across the globe and publications to the forefront of the industry in the beautiful city of Seattle. This annual venue allows vendors and growers to display their year’s hard work all together allowing everyone from the casual smoker, enthusiasts and even connoisseurs to revel in the abundance of the expo.

*The spike in August is due to ancillary products and seed sales at the Seattle Hempfest, concurrently during the cyclic low supply time, capturing a capitalization on base wholesale prices as well.






With a strategic allocation of a larger percentage of the year’s inventory purposely held for sale during low supply times, abusing the demand, thus creating arbitrage by a temporary increase in price. The expected demand is using several years of historical data, also ignoring a correlation of increase in demand as the national legalization of marijuana looms around the corner. However as laws and regulations change, the industry nationwide is going to begin to emerge. One of the unique things about this industry is the fact that the southern Oregon climate is some of the most ideal marijuana cultivation climates in the world. Unlike the movements in other pioneer states, the lack of proper growing space, climate and experience has disallowed an organic and “grass roots” perspective to have been taken. With copious amounts of electricity needed to grow marijuana indoors, in Colorado, outside of a few brief months of outdoor crops, is a very costly endeavor. Low profit margin business design and plan is already successfully implemented. In Oregon, the ample humidity and ideal temperatures have historically produced some of the most potent and fruitful flowers in the world, by utilizing the profit margin on things such as air, water and land. A large profit margin is easily attainable, while not sacrificing the quality because of the aforementioned features of our area. Being able to boast a combination of an organic taste and potency, for such a small cost, is what makes 420CREATION an innovator of wholesale marijuana cultivation in an already profitable emerging market.
 

justugh

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There is already several groups doing similar things now. I consult for some of them. I actually assisted in setting up several large grows. and in one case found the real estate they needed. Here is an example of one of our executive summaries. In my network, I have a lawyer, chemist, a guy with a Masters in Quantitative finance, (The Computer who wares tennis shoes) and an artist. We are always open to new ideas:)

Executive Summary:

With over 30 years of Marijuana experience in; cultivation, and propagation. 420 Creation is offering the opportunity for investors to be a part of this revolutionary “budding” experience. We have the ability to conservatively project an approximate 20,000% return on investments secured by a first deed of trust on improved real estate. Our proven methodology of utilizing the power of sun, water, air dirt, and some fertilizer, have allowed us to accumulate a plethora of hybrid seeds available to consumers, which alone could produce over $100,000 in gross revenue charging only 33% the price of the competitors, easily recouping the $2000 a year residual investment needed for propagation of that size of inventory.

To get the real “stalk” of the issue; with the observations of how the marijuana regulations and industry in Colorado and Washington recorded a presumptive model of volatility and valuation of a consistent multi-year projection was formulated. With outlined trends in supply and demand consistent with both emerging markets, our projection ignores the possible increase in baseline value spikes as demand increases during the initial development of the market. The industry trends exhibited in both Colorado and Washington, showed a lack of product along with a 60% increase in price during the initial week of sales ranging from initial retail prices of $4000 dollars a pound, to approximately $6400 a pound, where our model uses a very conservative average wholesale pricing of $1500.00 a pound, and discerning any projected increase in price during initial sales.

Along with the profit of pure wholesaling and retailing marijuana seeds in national forums such as “High Times Magazine” we will also wholesale the flowers and marijuana by- products such as the highly valued concentrates of the essential oils containing the chemical properties of THC and CBD, in a larger metropolitan area. Additionally, we will be hosting a vending stand at the Seattle Hempfest. The Seattle Hempfest is an annual conglomerate of tourists, experts and industry leaders in the cultivation of the American Marijuana business, bringing people from across the globe and publications to the forefront of the industry in the beautiful city of Seattle. This annual venue allows vendors and growers to display their year’s hard work all together allowing everyone from the casual smoker, enthusiasts and even connoisseurs to revel in the abundance of the expo.

*The spike in August is due to ancillary products and seed sales at the Seattle Hempfest, concurrently during the cyclic low supply time, capturing a capitalization on base wholesale prices as well.






With a strategic allocation of a larger percentage of the year’s inventory purposely held for sale during low supply times, abusing the demand, thus creating arbitrage by a temporary increase in price. The expected demand is using several years of historical data, also ignoring a correlation of increase in demand as the national legalization of marijuana looms around the corner. However as laws and regulations change, the industry nationwide is going to begin to emerge. One of the unique things about this industry is the fact that the southern Oregon climate is some of the most ideal marijuana cultivation climates in the world. Unlike the movements in other pioneer states, the lack of proper growing space, climate and experience has disallowed an organic and “grass roots” perspective to have been taken. With copious amounts of electricity needed to grow marijuana indoors, in Colorado, outside of a few brief months of outdoor crops, is a very costly endeavor. Low profit margin business design and plan is already successfully implemented. In Oregon, the ample humidity and ideal temperatures have historically produced some of the most potent and fruitful flowers in the world, by utilizing the profit margin on things such as air, water and land. A large profit margin is easily attainable, while not sacrificing the quality because of the aforementioned features of our area. Being able to boast a combination of an organic taste and potency, for such a small cost, is what makes 420CREATION an innovator of wholesale marijuana cultivation in an already profitable emerging market.
i am a bi polar person with a high iq .......everything i know about weed is from my own experiments

i want a job in a shop as a grower ......allowing me to legally get paid for doing something i enjoy ....basically pay me to grow your plants and give me room to experiment to increase what the plants can do

i can prove auto flowering plants are more profitable then photo plants and they have nearly the same chemical read outs in the end
 

qwizoking

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"i can prove auto flowering plants are more profitable then photo plants"



hmmmmm.....well go for it
 
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Oregon Gardener

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From my experience here in Southern Oregon, the folks who are hiring gardeners are looking for this kind of stuff. These size plants are hard to compete with in juxtaposition to indoor. I thing Colorado and Washington are excellent opportunities for high volume auto-flower operations. I personally think my indoor is better. However, there is a big debate where most people ( mostly outdoor growers) claim out door is the best. Good luck.BIG GIANT PLANT 001.jpg
 

justugh

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"i can prove auto flowering plants are more profitable then photo plants"



hmmmmm.....well go for it
that is easy
1 the amount they make in the time frame they make it
auto plants can make more product in the same space as a photos in a set time frame (in a year u can do 3 photo grows in the same space u can do 4 to 6 grows in that same space with autos over that year period ) .....this means more product more strains on the shelf
2 the equipment cost and energy
2a.....u need different light zones for photos 18/6 12/12 ......so this means 2 sets of lights 2 set of evo controls( AC heater humidifier dehumidifier air extraction or co2 enrichment) plus 2 area physically so u can keep running a routine to pull in every months/2 weeks
2b ......auto flowers like both lights (red and blue) can run on a 20/4 whole life ....this means u need only one area large but it can be controlled with one set of evo controls meaning it is already 30-40% less energy to run the site
3 cloning
3a photo plants can clone a mother can offer 3 sets of clones avg number is 30 (going on the number of sites offered in cloning machines) that is 90 clones off 1 mother and this cost money for the hormones and equipment and energy
3b cloning is not a good idea with auto......but getting seeds is then treating the bulk of them to be female ( good plant gone to seed 500 seeds ) so 1 plant has given me 350/425 females and 150/75 males .......the cost of getting a seed to sprout is less then clone due to the fact u can use the natural heat from a light to warm a jiffy green house so u have sprouts in 3 days ...the feed used in this is the same rooting feeding u give to the plants
3c .......i will not act like i know but the success rate of cloning and success rate of sprouting .....i have a 96% success rate at sprouting my seeds...... what is cloning rate ?

the next part is hydro wins over soil do to the fact most water can be gotten for pennies compared to a good soil that can cost up to 30/40 bucks a planter (and this even account for the equipment cost and energy use ) hydro is still cheaper then soil

ok so now we are in one room with hydro set up .......offering excess amounts of food to a auto plant can/will cause it to blow the fuck up do to the genetics of the Auto flower (grow as fast as it using what is offered to it flip into flowering and get to seed so next gen is born)
https://www.rollitup.org/t/call-it-hydro-exp-gone-mad-imput-wellcome-autoflowering-strain-gone-nutz.764237/

auto plant done in 110days with 23oz of good solid buds for say at a cost of 1 dollar a day feed/power (total was 26oz 20 grams i did not sell the fluffy stuff used for cannabutter)

no matter how u cut it the number show that Autos are a better choice ......the THC lvls and terps are near exact matches to photos thanks to the genetic work the breeders have been doing ....and the yields match what photos do in a shorter time
 

justugh

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From my experience here in Southern Oregon, the folks who are hiring gardeners are looking for this kind of stuff. These size plants are hard to compete with in juxtaposition to indoor. I thing Colorado and Washington are excellent opportunities for high volume auto-flower operations. I personally think my indoor is better. However, there is a big debate where most people ( mostly outdoor growers) claim out door is the best. Good luck.View attachment 3556938
i bet u the guy spent more then a Grand on feeds and tweaking the soil

the pay out should recover it tho ........good work good plant

personally i think indoor is better........indoor u are mimicking the best day outdoor as many times as u possible can during the life of the plant
outdoor is it a nature crap shoot but those small variables like that can offer something special in the weed one of the chemicals it produces could get a extra bump

it starts to turn into the wine argument ....and weed snobs come out
 

Oregon Gardener

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i bet u the guy spent more then a Grand on feeds and tweaking the soil

the pay out should recover it tho ........good work good plant

personally i think indoor is better........indoor u are mimicking the best day outdoor as many times as u possible can during the life of the plant
outdoor is it a nature crap shoot but those small variables like that can offer something special in the weed one of the chemicals it produces could get a extra bump

it starts to turn into the wine argument ....and weed snobs come out
I agree, I also grow indoor and I think it is better. ( I believe modern testing will prove us right) You are also right about that particular plant costing too much. Full disclosure that's not my plant, I just worked there. Over the years I have worked on some of the largest MMJ farms in the world. But bigger don't make it better in my opinion. For me it's all about "The Cure" I only spent about $200. on nutes last year. I have a dump truck and I build/sell my own soil. These are from this year (2015). I have less than $1000. in the hole grow. I make/sell my own grow bags too.:) I have pic of much bigger plants that I have grown over the years, but I did spend some money on nuts. ( if that's not enough, I'll come over and paint your house too)
 

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