bodhi seeds
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Mad Hamish
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SHOE was telling me cuts have wiped out a few grows he knows of due to broad mites. Apparently bit of an epidemic on the coasts. Sounds bloody awful. EDIT: is Avid a Spinosad product? Becoming quite a fan of Spinosad. Fermented bacteria, who knew.
D619
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Correction, I didn't identify the eggs correctly. I've should have stated Cyclamen Mites, but it ended up being spider mite eggs. Round smooth eggs, not oval or any with bumps. I figure broad mite because of the symptoms the plant was displaying. That is why I'm able to get started right away. If it was broad mites i would have taken more time and steps. I'm going to hire 1000 predatory mites as a precautionary measure. Shoe had great success from this company called natures control tripple threat predatory mites. I like the idea of having these little soldiers seeking and deystroying these bastards.
The Person had no idea he was infested to my knowledge. I did bring it to his attention, but .. I think a lot of growers don't see huge benefit of having a 100 x magnifyer or scope and once they start seeing the results of being infested it's usually to late.
Cheers!
Yeah anyone who would deliberately give out clones known to be infested with broad mites would a big time dick head move and I would have put them on blast.
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st0wandgrow
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Had those once. They're pretty easy to deal with imo.
I used Azamax at 3 day intervals for a couple weeks. Wiped them right out. Make sure to not only spray the top/bottoms of leaves, but also give the surface of the soil a good spray down too. They like to hang out there as well.
D619
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Here's what I know for sure, Avid will kill mites and but not the eggs. Forbid 4 will kill the eggs. Use together is a guaranteed eradication. I have avid, forbid , pylon and kontos sitting around but would only use it to spray a bare room using an atomizer. Can't in good conscience apply them to my garden. Hence why I trashed everything and started over.
The new an upcoming nightmare.. " Ditylenchus dipsaci "
TonightYou
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Here's a good link on it.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abamectin
It is extremely poisonous and you definitely want to follow directions. The good thing is, you could use this on vegging plants and by the time they are finishing flowering, there wouldn't be any residual poison left on the harvested buds as it does break down naturally at a somewhat constant rate.
TonightYou
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That's why you want to use it as directed. The second application should kill any mites that hatch after the fact. They recommended a third treatment but I was tired of being on the couch and couldn't find any remaining mites after the first treatment, let alone a second treatment. I have a very small bottle that is barely used and hopefully will never use it again
Mad Hamish
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For mites we get an insanely good organic one. 'Ludwig's Insect Spray Plus ' It is a combo of pyrethrum, which breaks down super rapidly but is poison make no mistake, extracted from chrysanthenum, then garlic extract and canola oil as a base. The canola oil smothers eggs and kills young mites, and gods know what the garlic does but it smells like an Italian restaurant so not too bad rofl. We can get pure pyrethrum spray as Pyrol, total kill zone but phytotoxicity is an issue. As long as you have a good sprayer they work first time. I inherited my granpas Chapin, that thing made all the difference for bugs. Never saw the point they are super pricey but if something happens to mine I am getting a new one same day. Atomizes the spray into this fine mist that gets in absolutely everywhere. Respirator essential. EDIT : I saw a video where a guy uses a vacuum cleaner to suck mites off his bud. Never tried it but in flower I will definitely give it a go. Worst that can happen is a few messed up fans...
TonightYou
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Broad mites are a whole different breed. They laughed at need oil, shook off pepper sprays/garlics/other herbs like it was nothing., didn't stop with pyrethrum. I even put all my plants for a half hour in the tub with over a 100 degree f water.
Bought lady bugs and predatory mites, they still lived!
Spawns of the devil.
Oh found out I had another freebie from Bodhi that must have fallen out of the envelop when I opened it at my safe address. Need to go pick it up and am excited to see what it is!
Bought lady bugs and predatory mites, they still lived!
Spawns of the devil.
Oh found out I had another freebie from Bodhi that must have fallen out of the envelop when I opened it at my safe address. Need to go pick it up and am excited to see what it is!
D619
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read any scientific study and fact of the matter if you are using pesticides it must be in rotation to avoid resistants to a single application mode. I understand it worked in your situation.
TonightYou
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I'm in complete agreement. Using the same stuff over is why we have these super bugs. These broad mites are not even native to my area. In addition, indoor gardens are perfect stomping grounds with nothing to keep them in check
TonightYou
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Yay! Afkan x Snow Lotus! Can't wait to grow them out side by side!
TonightYou
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You can always reveg if you have the plant. I chuckled at the thought of a bud just chilling and drying on a router
calicat
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TonightYou
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That's a good list and run down. I did think the same thing about mighty wash. I wasn't going to waste more money.
Here is more detail on avid, or abamecitin. The information in that post regarding it is not accurate.
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/24d-captan/abamectin-ext.html
Here is more detail on avid, or abamecitin. The information in that post regarding it is not accurate.
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/24d-captan/abamectin-ext.html
Breko
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No time to reveg...Gotta keep it movin!
I LOVE my cable router. Quick dries a small bud in 12 hours and germinates ALL my beans!
Breko
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Didn't know what a chapin was. Looked it up. SWEEEEEEEEEET! I want.
Mad Hamish
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From what I hear, the gg4 cut and broad mites have wreaked havoc. The way it is described is the stuff of nightmares. If it has been around for a while, the broad mite problem, and people have been dosing them with whatever is around, yes, by now it must be some insane super bug. Scary stuff.
Mad Hamish
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Brilliant! Thanks Sir!