Real Dr. Greenthumb Genetics
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Is wikipedia a credible source for citing information from now? (Being serious, not sure how tightly its moderated) When i was in college a couple years ago I would get laughed at and have an instant failure if anything had anything from wikipedia on it... Good place to start research, but is it really credible now?
OGEvilgenius
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So I wasn't that impressed with his OG x Iranian and Haze x Iranian. Picked some of the more vigorous plants to try out from over 50 of each. Flowered indoors in mostly worm castings and sea soil with some liquid kelp. Both smelled fairly similar. Quite different structure. Neither as quick as my Anesthesia. Takes too long OD to really finish in BC as well unless you have an ideal spot or green house. My anesthesia are much further along than the other 49 of each of those I gave to a friend.
Smoke wise the OG was not bad at all, but not great. The Haze is pretty lack luster. All in all at the price they're sold at they're not even close to worth it IMO.
Smoke wise the OG was not bad at all, but not great. The Haze is pretty lack luster. All in all at the price they're sold at they're not even close to worth it IMO.
reasonevangelist
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google + wiki...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cypress+hill+black+sunday
Are you suggesting that anyone would have any reason to falsify the release date of a music album? Or that i wasn't listening to the album i purchased more than once, after hearing their single "insane in the brain" in my first year of adolescence?
People like to pretend wiki has zero credible information, which is completely ridiculous. Some might be wrong, and some trolls might manage to get misinformation published, but from what i understand, submissions and edits are peer reviewed, and this particular page has several citations at the bottom (which most do)... plus, i heard of cypress hill WAY before '98, and so did a whole bunch of other people.
You don't have to stop at the quote i shared from wiki, you have access to the whole internet, if you disbelieve my claim that i "heard of cypress hill 5 years before '98."
Back on topic though: i like DGT's site, it's old school and simple. I like that he shares specific info about each strain, but the prices seem excessive to me. I'm most interested in the "incognito" and "freedom 35," but there are a couple others i think would likely be great as well. I also noticed a while back, he had a message stating he's selling the biz next year... so who knows how that will affect things.
How old are you like 12? I was simply asking if its a more credible source than it was back when i was doing research papers.... Notice how I put "being serious here....." Are you sure your first year of adolescence was way back than and not a tad bit more recently? Take a chill pill man.. I was seriously asking if it was a credible source.... never once did i say what you said was not true... But again maybe your lack of reading comprehension goes hand in hand with taking whatever google/wiki throws at you as credible research....
Now that I got my jab in reason..... lets get back on good terms... lol Like i said i was seriously just asking if it was credible source now a days.... For all i know maybe they hired an encyclopedia team to moderate everything on their site and it would be 100% credible.
(And my jab at you was all in good fun... I had a hell of a week at work and i got to take some anger out on you!!! ) Happy growing man!
Damn OGEvil I am really sad to see your bad review... Not many growers, as good as yourself, end up not liking his plants.... Have you grown out any of his Non iranian mixes? Just wondering btw... and your Anesthesia grow is awesome!
reasonevangelist
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Any source of information is suspect, which is why i find the whole "wiki is not credible" assertion fallacious.
People who insist wiki is essentially fiction, are the same ones believing everything they see on TV, and everything the gov't says. The gov't has probably more resources and motive than anyone else, to use for fabricating false documentation, altering recorded history, and disseminating manipulated/adulterated information.
But sure, let's complain about wiki. lol.
I would guess the RIAA/IMDB/etc/whatever, most likely has valid records of all commercially published music, and will most likely confirm what is stated on wiki. But, like the link i posted shows, if you google "cypress hill black sunday," you'll see exactly what i posted. Google's motto is supposed to be "don't be evil." Why would they lie about the release date of an album? I'm pretty sure google and wiki WANT to be thought credible, so lying would seem to defeat their own purposes... which is part of why i find it both ironic and ridiculous that so many people interpret wiki being trolled a few times, as "wiki has no credibility." Compared to what, exactly? Is anything anyone ever says, ever credible? lol.
lol man i want to smoke some of what your smoking... you are a very well spoken individual! But definitely all great points sir.... Lets get back to Dr Greenthumb before we get into the "Whats really real!?" arguments =P
Again I am probably the same age as you and know Cypris hill was back around in the early 90's and was never questioning you... lol
Mr.Head
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Wikipedia has all the sources at the bottom of the page, if you check through their sources and double check the sources sources there is no reason wiki should be seen as "less accurate". In fact I'd argue it's more accurate based on the fact that a community has a say as to how the posts are constructed rather then one dude with an opinion compiling data to suit his world views.
if they were going to fail for what you found on Wiki they should fail for using the internet at all, all of it has the same possibility to be inaccurate, it's the internet after all, there are very well constructed websites that spread nothing but lies that look extremely credible.
if they were going to fail for what you found on Wiki they should fail for using the internet at all, all of it has the same possibility to be inaccurate, it's the internet after all, there are very well constructed websites that spread nothing but lies that look extremely credible.
O nice... i honestly havent been on wiki in a while. Thats right i do remember them posting the stuff bottom.... I remember having to doing the double checking of the checked sources which was always a pain... But like i said wiki is always a great place to start~!
OGEvilgenius
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I haven't run anything else, but there are pretty much other sources of the same genetics for a lot less and I see no reason to pay as much as he charges. I won't dispute there are likely some very excellent plants to be grown from what he offers, but they cost too much IMO. And overall I'd be pretty pissed off if I were the guy running these Iranian hybrids outdoors given the price of them. They aren't suitable for the Canadian climate really. Take too long to flower. My Anesthesia are very far ahead of his Iranian hybrids. It's a lot better than other autos I've tried smoke wise, but there are regular strains that are superior and faster. Thanks for the compliments, I still have plenty of work to do to get my level up though.
greenghost420
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these are the reviews that make me weary of buying his gear. but these reviews are never about his S1s . prices hurt!
OGEvilgenius
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You can get S1's of the cuts he has elsewhere, except the G13 but I highly doubt it's the real G13 based on old pictures vs pictures of what he offers. The old pictures show a very hashplant resin soaked beast of a plant with small buds and not much structure for yield.
greenghost420
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thanks, appreciate ur opinion. where else have u seen the ghost og and ecsd s1?
OGEvilgenius
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I've seen em up on seed boutique from random small timers and elsewhere I can't say off hand I haven't had interest in it - I know there was one company who was continuing Rez's SD line which AFAIK has produced legends and is based on the ECSD. Maybe not ghost OG, but there are better OG cuts AFAIK so I'm not sure why that one is special.
urban1026835
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If it as anyone else I would agree but Breal goes ay back into the scene, no do I think the hso stuff he is pushing is anything more then a gimmick absolutely but to say hat the hell does he know, look up soul assassins crew. Dude does legitimately know his shit.
still agree though the dr.greenthumb is a marketing angle even if he was the 1st person to reference the name.
If you Google "Dilly's Greenthumb Iranian" or "Maine Top Shelf Care Giver Iranian" or "MTSCG Iranian" you'll get a lot of results that are different than yours. I think they are in Maine U.S.A which I figure is pretty close to your climate. They're doing grow journals of a bunch of Iranian crosses like Iranian Haze and Iranian OG with photos and a smoke reports. GIANT plants and most are already in and dry now. I just think weekly journals with photos are a more reliable source of information that one-liners. Interesting too how most of the Iranian crosses have beautiful pink pistils
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OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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a couple yrs ago friend of mine did og x iran..it finished 46 n lat by sept 21…vs oct 31 for og s1
one pheno of it was crazy potent
same guy did iran x haze, iran ohzone, iran x ecsd this year
they all finished pretty good though
he said it was not a great growing year by along shot
they were taken down sept 22
they were beautiful…especially the haze cross
the iranian s1's finished by end of sept .. gotta love the reliabilty..and the old school colombian like high
there are many good strains out there…but these are indeed some of em
one pheno of it was crazy potent
same guy did iran x haze, iran ohzone, iran x ecsd this year
they all finished pretty good though
he said it was not a great growing year by along shot
they were taken down sept 22
they were beautiful…especially the haze cross
the iranian s1's finished by end of sept .. gotta love the reliabilty..and the old school colombian like high
there are many good strains out there…but these are indeed some of em
OGEvilgenius
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Pink pistils are confirmed. These plants were done guerilla style... but none are near done. And he had almost 50 of each. Perhaps it has to do with less light (for the OD being so behind), but my Anesthesia (which are much further along outside and much higher quality in general) finished a couple weeks before the Iranian crosses did inside (all grown inside). Smoke wise they are just average to slightly above.
The seeds themselves were good quality in terms of germination etc. Good vigor. Yield wise they're ok I guess. There's some potential here I guess but I am less than sold after seeing how my buddies plants aren't really even close to done and he doesn't live that far from me - and the prices of the seeds are pretty outrageous IMO. Whereas my Anesthesia could all be chopped down and be quite excellent currently...
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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i have just sampled the iran haze at 46 n lat
harvested sept 22 i think
it could have gone longer..wet weather
a med person grew it outside
i just had a two[three?] day dried sample
its even better than i hoped it would be.
exhilarating , and happy and not noidy
hard corn sized nugs when stripped off dried branch
i am 65 i haven't had some thing like this for i dunno
..it feels like thai weed with its postive uplifting..
STRONG expansive puff brother!
be nice to taste it slow dried
all the best
harvested sept 22 i think
it could have gone longer..wet weather
a med person grew it outside
i just had a two[three?] day dried sample
its even better than i hoped it would be.
exhilarating , and happy and not noidy
hard corn sized nugs when stripped off dried branch
i am 65 i haven't had some thing like this for i dunno
..it feels like thai weed with its postive uplifting..
STRONG expansive puff brother!
be nice to taste it slow dried
all the best