Smokenpassout
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Is either one any better than the other?
What is better distilled or RO water?
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vostok
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Non RO water has all the natural goodies that plants humans and pets require, tho this time of year you water company is getting water from anywhere it can ..it don't care so long as it wet, for this reason mineral content and Ph etc etc can be thru the roof, if in doubt test your water every month you don't get rain with you TDs meter or even ph strips from the local drugstore $5.00
Use RO water for germing cloning and general use 20-50% of the time with your plants, RO has many minerals stripped out ..expect (Mg.) def in due course and other mineral def..later
Use RO water for germing cloning and general use 20-50% of the time with your plants, RO has many minerals stripped out ..expect (Mg.) def in due course and other mineral def..later
vitamin_green_inc
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I use RO water exclusively. It is stripped of cal, mag but I found a water bottling company that add those for "taste" and have yet to supplement with cal-mag and I am under led which seems to need more cal mag than other light sources
churchhaze
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distilled and RO are the same thing.
Water.
Distilled is slightly more pure, but more expensive, but they're both just water. Really nothing special.
Water.
Distilled is slightly more pure, but more expensive, but they're both just water. Really nothing special.
AquariusPanta
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I like using tap water. It's around 150ppm
Smokenpassout
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Good advice. As a novice, I have feared my local tap water. I have no tools to test it. So I have always bought distilled water, since I just add base nutrients or nothing at all. Now, I have cal mag plus to suppliment either tap or ro water. I am also using all led now. Why does led need more cal mag?
Smokenpassout
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The distilled I use is 88 cents a gallon at walmart. I suppose it adds up though.
Lo Budget
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I use them interchangeably. Mix and match. Some places have distilled, some RO, just depends on where I'm at when I buy them. Looking for an under-sink RO unit, though. For us and the plants. Cheaper and much more convenient. Not keen on using 3-5 gal in to get a gallon out, but that's about what it takes no matter who processes it.
vostok
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I have a big ass fridge freezer, it costs as much to run as a small car, and its rarely used, but for food for 2-3 peeps, so my babe loaded it up with jugs of bottled water, like 2-3 gallons did during a rain storm, at least if the world falls we have water for 10 years ,....lol
moral is save some water next it rains, catch it with a tarp with a hole ...lol
that way who cares about tds, tdm..ppm... or ph (fingercrossed) ...lol
its fresh from the sea
moral is save some water next it rains, catch it with a tarp with a hole ...lol
that way who cares about tds, tdm..ppm... or ph (fingercrossed) ...lol
its fresh from the sea
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bigbuddin84
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YOUR tap water is around 150 ppm. That is a fairly low number for tap, so consider yourself lucky. I've seen tap go over 800ppm.
Incorrect. RO is more pure. It really is JUST WATER. Distilled water still has impurities. Distilling water makes it more pure by evaporating the water away from any impurities that HAVE A HIGHER BOILING POINT THAN WATER. Anything that has a lower or equivalent boiling point as water will be passed along with the evaporated, distilled water. It will get metals out, but not other stuff. Get a ppm meter and check the distilled. It WILL NOT have a reading of zero, as RO water will.
chuck estevez
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way to contradict yourself,lol
bigbuddin84
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If you really thought I was contradicting myself, I feel sorry for your comprehension skills. There are 2 ways you could read that sure. Sure, you COULD read it the way you did. But anyone with half a brain would know what I meant. But I will reword it for half-wits.
Distilling water makes it more pure THAN NON DISTILLED WATER by evaporating the water away from any impurities that HAVE A HIGHER BOILING POINT THAN WATER
The fact that I even had to do that is a fuckin joke.
chuck estevez
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yeah, smartie, your precious R/O is not so pure asswipe
4. STEAM DISTILLED WATER
Distillation consists of boiling and evaporating water and then recondensing the vapor or steam back into liquid water. This is a very natural process, and is exactly what occurs when water evaporates into the air and then falls to the ground as rain.
When water is distilled in nature through evaporation, all solid matter is left behind and only pure H20 rises into the air to form clouds that eventually drop their moisture as rain. This is nature’s premier water filtration system, in fact.
When water is distilled by mankind, by boiling it and recondensing it, all solid matter is left behind except chemicals that volatilize at a lower temperature than the water. Most industrial distillers have methods to capture these substances to prevent them from remaining in the water.
For this reason, I find that industrially distilled water is the very best, not home distillers of any kind.I do not recommend buying a home distiller for this reason.
Advantages of distilled water. Distillation does not significantly damage the subtle properties of water such as its spin, moment, specific gravity and other subtle qualities of the water. In fact, distilling is the best and really the only way to remove the “memory” of damage to water that is known to occur when water is contaminated in any way.
Good quality distilled water is free of most chemicals and all toxic metals. It is also free of pathogens such as bacteria and viruses.
Problems with distilled water. These are many and include:
1. Distilled water acts as a chelator in the body. This is a very serious problem, in our experience. Distillation (as with reverse osmosis) creates a "hungry" water. This means it is devoid of minerals and, as a result, distilled water tends to attract to itself whatever minerals it touches.
When one drinks distilled water, as soon as it enters the body it begins to grab onto and hold onto minerals. This process is called chelation. When the distilled water passes out of the body through the kidneys, some of these minerals are lost to the body. Since it is a mild form of chelation, if one drinks distilled water for more than a few weeks or months, over time it will remove some vital minerals from the body. This is extremely harmful today because most of us are low in vital minerals to begin with.
2. Distilled water lacks nutrient minerals. Almost everyone is already low in nutrient or vital minerals, and we need to obtain more of them any way we can. One can absorb some minerals from drinking water. In fact, good water can supply 30 or 40 trace minerals that the body needs in small quantities. Unlike spring water or even tap water, distilled water is lacking minerals, so it is less desirable for that reason.
3. Distillation produces a slightly acidic water. Some people do not like this fact. However, it is not quite the truth. Used for short periods of time up to three or perhaps even 6 months, distilled water often removes so many toxic chemicals and metals from the body that the overall effect is alkalinizing, even though the water itself may be slightly acidic in its pH. In other words, it does not matter that the distilled water is acidic, provided the long-term effect of the water is to make the body more alkaline.
However, if distilled water is continued for more than a few months, it begins to leach out some vital “alkaline reserve” minerals that are the ones responsible for making the body more alkaline. Therefore, long-term use of distilled water will eventually cause the body to become more acidic if it is used for more than a few months.
4. Metal contamination. A minor problem with distillation is that metallic distillers, even stainless steel ones, can possibly give up some chromium, nickel, molybdenum, and iron into the water. It is not a lot, however, as most is bound up in the stainless steel. An all-glass distiller would be superior, if such a machine were available. I have not heard of such machines, however.
Adding minerals to distilled water. Some doctors and some designer waters begin with distilled water and add minerals to it to offset the problems of drinking pure distilled water. However, mineral science is very complex and there are over 40 trace minerals that our bodies need in minute quantities in many cases. No one, in my view, is very good at figuring out 1) which minerals to add, 2) how much of each, and 3) in what form to add them.
Also, as explained above, water is type of energy and a type of ‘whole food’. Any time you alter it, some of its properties may be damaged or destroyed. I have reviewed dozens of water products on the internet and elsewhere. None are very good, in my view, or worth the money. For this reason, I do not advocate adding minerals, sea salt or anything else to any drinking water.
Summary: Most people should avoid distilled water for the reasons listed above. I rarely suggest it for a short time only to help with a healing reaction. Drinking distilled water for longer than this, however, always results in vital mineral deficiencies.
5. REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER
Reverse osmosis or RO is by far the most common manmade method of purifying water on earth. It involves passing water at high pressure through a plastic membrane with tiny holes in it. Most minerals and chemicals are too large to pass through the membrane and remain behind, resulting in the formation of a largely mineral-free, chemical-free and pathogen-free water.
The design of most RO units includes a way of back flushing the membrane constantly to hopefully prevent excessive buildup of solid matter on the plastic membrane. This is important or the membrane would be destroyed quickly. The membrane usually lasts about a year, at which time the water quality deteriorates and the membrane must be replaced.
Gases, such as chlorine, can pass through the membrane. For this reason, most reverse osmosis units also usually contain pre- and post-filters. The pre-filter extends the life of the membrane by removing larger particles and certain chemicals. The carbon post-filter further purifies the water, removing chlorine and other gases that may pass through the filter.
RO is the most commonly used methods of producing pure water on planet earth. It is used in almost all home and commercial "drinking water" machines such as those in water stores, supermarkets and health food stores. It is also used industrially in bottling plants for soda pop, soups, juices, beer and many other drinks. It is also used on all ships, some aircraft, and in many other applications. It is much cheaper than distillation.
Advantages of reverse osmosis water. These include its low level of toxic metals, toxic chemicals and pathogens, and its low cost.
Disadvantages of reverse osmosis water. Unfortunately, RO water has many disadvantages:
1. RO water, in general, does not hydrate the body well. This is its worst aspect. It is unfortunate, but we see it over and over again. The plastic membrane must damage the water in some subtle way that I do not understand.
2. A residue from the plastic membrane seems to find its way into the water, and then into the body. This is a consistent finding in everyone who drinks RO water. So it adds a new toxin to the body, even though the water is quite pure in other ways.
3. The water is extremely yin in Chinese medical terms. This may be because it lacks minerals and because it is contaminated with plastic from the RO membrane. The yin quality is harmful and best avoided.
4. There is evidence from a few clients that RO water damages the third energy center or chakra.
5. There is no simple way to test the quality of the water. As the plastic RO membrane and pre-and post-filters age in a reverse osmosis machine, the water quality declines. A simple total dissolved solids or TDS meter may not detect chemical contamination.
6. Carbon and other filters in RO systems can become contaminated with bacteria and viruses easily. Manufacturers suggest replacing the carbon filters at specified intervals or after a certain number of gallons have been produced. However, these are just averages. Other than the taste, it is most difficult to assess the cleanliness of the carbon filters.
7. Reverse osmosis water is severely mineral deficient and has an acidic pH. As with distilled water, it does not supply the body with needed trace minerals, and it may have a mild chelating effect. This means that it may remove some vital minerals from the body.
The acidic pH is also a slight problem.
8. RO wastes a lot of water that must be used to backflush the system. It also causes pollution because the plastic membranes do not biodegrade quickly. The polycarbonate plastics degrade slowly in the landfills. Filled with toxic substances, they represent a source of long-term pollution. Extremely high-temperature incineration, which is gaining in popularity, is the best form of disposal of the membranes that I am aware of.
Summary. Water filtered by reverse osmosis or RO is not good drinking water, in my experience. Its effects can be terrible, including even kidney failure. I know that sounds extreme, but several cases have occurred that I know about.
It does not matter if someone has added minerals back to the RO water, boiled it, or done other things to it like praying over it or “energizing” it in any way that I have seen, so far. These methods do not seems to undo the damage to the water that occurs due to passing it through the plastic RO membrane. Please avoid all water made this way for best hydration.
bigbuddin84
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So you can copy and paste? Is that supposed to make me think you are above a monkey intellectually?
chuck estevez
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bigbuddin84
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There is evidence from a few clients that RO water damages the third energy center or chakra
Seems scientific
Seems scientific
chuck estevez
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a comma would normally go after that SO. smart guy
