Soil or Light Source: Which Produces Denser Buds?

cannakis

cannakis

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Would changing from cfls to hid be better, or is it the lack of nutrition that was in my soil, and not vegging them? I need to know before I wind up dishing out $400 for new flowing chambers.!
 
Figong

Figong

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All of the above would be improvements... definitely HID over CFL if budget allows, nutes are highly recommended, and veg is a requirement.
 
cannakis

cannakis

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Figong said:
All of the above would be improvements... definitely HID over CFL if budget allows, nutes are highly recommended, and veg is a requirement.
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How long would you normally veg in a 4x4x6.5' tent? With a 600w? 5 or 1 gal containers?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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cannakis said:
Would changing from cfls to hid be better, or is it the lack of nutrition that was in my soil, and not vegging them? I need to know before I wind up dishing out $400 for new flowing chambers.!
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i'd say typically light is a more important factor, but it's kinda like saying whats more important to a human, water or air. You need both in good quantities/qualities, that being said, i'd spend your money on lights, HIDs to be specific.
And who knows what your last grow was lacking with no pics or information.
 
cannakis

cannakis

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greasemonkeymann said:
i'd say typically light is a more important factor, but it's kinda like saying whats more important to a human, water or air. You need both in good quantities/qualities, that being said, i'd spend your money on lights, HIDs to be specific.
And who knows what your last grow was lacking with no pics or information.
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haha thanks brother. yeah i kmow maybe one day i will.
 
cannakis

cannakis

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hyroot said:
Rock dust will improve density. IR light and deep red 660 light will improve density as well. just have full spectrum lighting (not hps) and a well balance soil mix.

Theres studies atTexas A&M on IR lighting and density in various plants
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nice i like this a lot thanks for the help
 
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SpaaaceCowboy

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hyroot said:
Rock dust will improve density. IR light and deep red 660 light will improve density as well. just have full spectrum lighting (not hps) and a well balance soil mix.

Theres studies atTexas A&M on IR lighting and density in various plants
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what's your favorite rock dust ? Or do you use a mixture of more than one ?
 
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anzohaze

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@hyroot Do you find all this rock at nurseries or is it readily avaliable do to were you live I live in south carolina and would prob have to order all of that in for rock dust.. also do you mix it wheb you ammend your soils or do you only use during flowering etc. Yall are teahing me alot amd I am in overload but am trying. If I can not find locally is there certain brands.or certain rock duat yku would use.over the other if it was readily avaliable
 
hyroot

hyroot

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anzohaze said:
@hyroot Do you find all this rock at nurseries or is it readily avaliable do to were you live I live in south carolina and would prob have to order all of that in for rock dust.. also do you mix it wheb you ammend your soils or do you only use during flowering etc. Yall are teahing me alot amd I am in overload but am trying. If I can not find locally is there certain brands.or certain rock duat yku would use.over the other if it was readily avaliable
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I get my bentonite / volcanic rock dust from a landscaping supply store down the street. 10 lbs for $9. The oyster shell flour I buy 2 hours away. Its the cheapest place anywhere. Plus I have friends and fam nearby there too. Glacial and basalt I order from


http://www.kisorganics.com/products/shop/product-category/bulk-soil-amendments/page/2.


The local rock dust I buy is Agrowynn brand

Guaranteed Analysis:
Available Phosphoric Acid (P205).....................................0.13%
Soluble Potash (K2O)..........................................................0.11%
Calcium (Ca)........................................................................ 1.23%
Magnesium (Mg)...................................................................1.74%
Iron (Fe)................................................................................ 0.8465%
Sodium (Na) ......................................................................... 1.20%
Derived from: Volcanic Rock Dust
 
cannakis

cannakis

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anzohaze said:
@hyroot Do you find all this rock at nurseries or is it readily avaliable do to were you live I live in south carolina and would prob have to order all of that in for rock dust.. also do you mix it wheb you ammend your soils or do you only use during flowering etc. Yall are teahing me alot amd I am in overload but am trying. If I can not find locally is there certain brands.or certain rock duat yku would use.over the other if it was readily avaliable
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Haha nice! Good old South Carolina eh!? I Am in the best State right above ya, North Carolina! Small world... Unless it's just the narcs who make it small... But really it is a small world!
 
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anzohaze

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cannakis said:
Haha nice! Good old South Carolina eh!? I Am in the best State right above ya, North Carolina! Small world... Unless it's just the narcs who make it small... But really it is a small world!
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Yea its small as hell and only seems smaller as you get older, I was born and raised in charleston. I take.my lil girl and neice to carowinds alot. we tell her its a water park since we have one close by so she dont tell her mom as were in a custody battle but it's still sc right lol
 
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anzohaze

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How do you apply rock dust as like an ammendment or top dress and how much I have 150 gallons of super soil that I use I am using half now and half thr other half cooking
 
hyroot

hyroot

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anzohaze said:
How do you apply rock dust as like an ammendment or top dress and how much I have 150 gallons of super soil that I use I am using half now and half thr other half cooking
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Both. i mix it when I make the soil mix. The following round (rols) I topdress.
 
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