what do you think of advanced nutrients?

[The Yorkshireman]

Essential Elements for Plant Growth
List of Essential Elements
The essential mineral elements are:

Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium, sulfur, boron, chlorine, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, molybdenum, and nickel.

In addition to the essential mineral elements are the beneficial elements, elements which promote plant growth in many plant species but are not absolutely necessary for completion of the plant life cycle, or fail to meet Arnon and Stout's criteria on other grounds. Recognized beneficial elements are:

Silicon, sodium, cobalt, and selenium

Other elements that have been proposed as candidates for essential or beneficial elements include chromium, vanadium, and titanium, although strong evidence is lacking at this time.

Another group is the essential nonmineral elements, elements taken up as gas or water, which are:

Hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon

Out of all of the many natural elements, essential mineral elements, essential nonmineral elements, and beneficial elements are not randomly scattered, but instead cluster in several groups on the periodic chart.

Various classification schemes for essential elements include:

• Macronutrients and micronutrients, based on the relative concentrations in plant tissue.
• Cations and anions, based on the positive or negative charge on the ionic form of the element as it is absorbed by plant roots.

http://soils.wisc.edu/facstaff/barak/soilscience326/listofel.htm
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[BROBIE]

Dude it's exactly that easy, plain old N-P-K basic elemental chemistry is all it is.
Maybe a little buffering and some myco thrown in for good measure in certain products but that's it.

AN's description is exactly that, a description.
It's called "marketing" and AN market to folk who don't know any better and fall for bright labels and scene names like Kushy Kush (please, ffs!).
Which fortunately for AN is most of the market share, especially in the USA which is why they are so successful.

Labeling laws? Government?
AN is Canadian if I'm not mistaken, Canna is a dutch firm and I live in England, 4 different sets of laws to follow there mate, it's not a conspiracy you know. lol

Nobody's asking you to write a book, just make your point.

SEE ABOVE IN BOLD. Effective nutes has evolved past that. I found a product I can use cheaply for all mediums and I don't have to worry about PH. Your suggestion is I stay with the 1930s mindset for producing veggies. My point is with AN Sensi I save time as I have posted numerous times in the past.

 

[tip top toker]

SEE ABOVE IN BOLD. Effective nutes has evolved past that. I found a product I can use cheaply for all mediums and I don't have to worry about PH. Your suggestion is I stay with the 1930s mindset for producing veggies. My point is with AN Sensi I save time as I have posted numerous times in the past.

Cheap? AN is utterly overpriced given what cannabis actually needs. Sounds like you're just one more sucker who is paying out of the ass for a product because they know no better. It doesn't matter how old the mind set is when growing a plant; if it works it works.

 

[BROBIE]

Essential Elements for Plant Growth
List of Essential Elements
The essential mineral elements are:

Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium, sulfur, boron, chlorine, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, molybdenum, and nickel.

In addition to the essential mineral elements are the beneficial elements, elements which promote plant growth in many plant species but are not absolutely necessary for completion of the plant life cycle, or fail to meet Arnon and Stout's criteria on other grounds. Recognized beneficial elements are:

Silicon, sodium, cobalt, and selenium

Other elements that have been proposed as candidates for essential or beneficial elements include chromium, vanadium, and titanium, although strong evidence is lacking at this time.

Another group is the essential nonmineral elements, elements taken up as gas or water, which are:

Hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon

Out of all of the many natural elements, essential mineral elements, essential nonmineral elements, and beneficial elements are not randomly scattered, but instead cluster in several groups on the periodic chart.

Various classification schemes for essential elements include:

• Macronutrients and micronutrients, based on the relative concentrations in plant tissue.
• Cations and anions, based on the positive or negative charge on the ionic form of the element as it is absorbed by plant roots.

http://soils.wisc.edu/facstaff/barak/soilscience326/listofel.htm
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Please... I know your attitude toward the US. But we too are fairly educated and we did bail your ass out ...... you did invent the radar, i'll give you that. So please stop with the elementary chemistry lesson.

 

[BROBIE]

Cheap? AN is utterly overpriced given what cannabis actually needs. Sounds like you're just one more sucker who is paying out of the ass for a product because they know no better. It doesn't matter how old the mind set is when growing a plant; if it works it works.

oh come on. We are talking about pounds of 40$ a gram crop here. I get a gallon for 70 or so and save gobs of time. I work for more than minimum wage so I like to keep my grows simple. AN Sensi does it.

Tip Top: Bet I can find waste in your grows. betcha

 

[tip top toker]

oh come on. We are talking about pounds of 40$ a gram crop here.

Absolutely irrelevant. You are being ripped off, the price you sell your weed for does not change that fact. This thread is about AN, not weed prices.

 

[BROBIE]

Absolutely irrelevant. You are being ripped off, the price you sell your weed for does not change that fact. This thread is about AN, not weed prices.

Why isn't it relevant? You are the one who says it's too expensive. By me saving time not having to PH my shit and getting chelated nutes (more than just Iron) with amino's and fulvics , how is that irrelevant? Sure , if I were growing cukes , yes i'm getting ripped. Basic economics and the numbers will tell you that time (labor) is money and AN saves time.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

SEE ABOVE IN BOLD. Effective nutes has evolved past that. I found a product I can use cheaply for all mediums and I don't have to worry about PH. Your suggestion is I stay with the 1930s mindset for producing veggies. My point is with AN Sensi I save time as I have posted numerous times in the past.

"Effective nutes have evolved past that" - Then please explain how, I'm all eye's.

"I found a product I can use cheaply for all mediums and I don't have to worry about PH" - As the chap above said AN isn't cheap, compared to other brands (even commercial) and certainly not compared to buying the simple salts yourself.

"I don't have to worry about PH" - So you fell for that PH Perfect too? lol

"Your suggestion is I stay with the 1930s mindset for producing veggies" - My suggestion is rather than buy overpriced commercial products, buy the salts that the commercial products are made from and mix your own juice.
Or feed your plants the exact same elements they've been made from since they greened our planet up thousands of years ago as cheaply as possible in ratios tailored to the plant.
It gets better results for far less money.

"My point is with AN Sensi I save time" - And here is the root of it all, you save time. ...........

 

[The Yorkshireman]

Please... I know your attitude toward the US. But we too are fairly educated and we did bail your ass out ...... you did invent the radar, i'll give you that. So please stop with the elementary chemistry lesson.

Give your head a shake lad!

 

[BROBIE]

"Effective nutes have evolved past that" - Then please explain how, I'm all eye's.

"I found a product I can use cheaply for all mediums and I don't have to worry about PH" - As the chap above said AN isn't cheap, compared to other brands (even commercial) and certainly not compared to buying the simple salts yourself.

"I don't have to worry about PH" - So you fell for that PH Perfect too? lol

"Your suggestion is I stay with the 1930s mindset for producing veggies" - My suggestion is rather than buy overpriced commercial products, buy the salts that the commercial products are made from and mix your own juice.
Or feed your plants the exact same elements they've been made from since they greened our planet up thousands of years ago as cheaply as possible in ratios tailored to the plant.
It gets better results for far less money.

"My point is with AN Sensi I save time" - And here is the root of it all, you save time. ...........

Feast your eyes on this: ALL element chelation, PH-Perfect, they didn't have that back in the day. added fulvics,humic, surfactants , no CalMag.

This is an old argument. PH perfect works. I use it and can attest to it. Second, in my experience. I need no calmag or anything else. Third, like you see now, time is saved. If I were as up as you are chemistry I would mix my own, but I prefer to spend my time doing other things.

 

[tip top toker]

"I don't have to worry about PH" - So you fell for that PH Perfect too? lol

I believe canna nutes also have this marketing claim on their aqua flores line. It proved to be utter gash. It has to be said, growing cannabis more often than not attracts the dregs of society unable to hold down a job, so none of this profiteering and bullshit by nute companies gets lapped up by the masses because they know no better.

 

[az2000]

Absolutely irrelevant. You are being ripped off, the price you sell your weed for does not change that fact. This thread is about AN, not weed prices.

If I were a cash crop guy I'd definitely consider how the price of my harvest compares to the cost of producing it.

 

[BROBIE]

Give your head a shake lad!

Well the basic chem lesson was arrogant just like you are. Why did you immediately have to 1 up with the degree in chemistry shit?

 

[BROBIE]

I believe canna nutes also have this marketing claim on their aqua flores line. It proved to be utter gash. It has to be said, growing cannabis more often than not attracts the dregs of society unable to hold down a job, so none of this profiteering and bullshit by nute companies gets lapped up by the masses because they know no better.

You believe? I don't think so. Even if they did so what? How can you argue that it is't a time saver? I know PH-Perf works because I use it. Until you try it, you have no authority on the subject until you try it

 

[chuck estevez]

FUNS OVER< THE SNITCH IS HERE< I"M OUT

 

[The Yorkshireman]

Well the basic chem lesson was arrogant just like you are. Why did you immediately have to 1 up with the degree in chemistry shit?

Read the post properly arsehole, I said....

"I am a grower and a chemist.

My partner has an Msc in marketing and specialises in consumer behavior."

 

[BROBIE]

B

Just waiting for the superior English educated reply. I have edumakatun too.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

Just waiting for the superior English educated reply. I have edumakatun too.

Edited, too slow.

 

[BROBIE]

Read the post properly arsehole, I said....

"I am a grower and a chemist.

My partner has an Msc in marketing and specialises in consumer behavior."

OK so why did you have to say that? Could you not defend your stance in your own words instead of immediately injecting some authoritative comment insinuating your superiority in the subject?
Your comments are subliminal but too predictable coming from a Englishman. I am day-trading right now so I might not make 100% sense, markets closing

 

[charface]

How do you feel about an?
100% never think about them unless a thread pops up.
I think they work but are overpriced.

How do you feel about
$5,000 sleeping bags?