Soil Vs Hydro

skunkd0c

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that is the basic recipe from that hillbilly subcool ^^
there is more than 2 bottles of stuff

far too complicated lol
 

Rrog

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I don't brew teas, and don't advocate vortex brewers and a whole lotta other stuff that some soil guys do.

There are no doubt soil growers out there that do silly and extreme things. Things I completely disagree with
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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look at the huge list of ingredients to start with , i have seen lists with like maybe 10 different items to (build the soil)

then we have folk brewing teas to keep the soil bugs happy
its not just a case of add water as you said
soil organics is some major faffing about if the truth be told
All I can say is I have a method that works well for my style & water is literally the only think I add. And the results are more than satisfactory for me.
Perhaps if I required more quantity I might look into hydro, but for now I'm very happy.

*Passes pipe*
 

skunkd0c

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All I can say is I have a method that works well for my style & water is literally the only think I add. And the results are more than satisfactory for me.
Perhaps if I required more quantity I might look into hydro, but for now I'm very happy.

*Passes pipe*
yeh folk can make their soil or hydro grow as complex as they like
some folk can even be happy growing in miracle grow soil lol
i know many hydro growers are guilty of wasting money on useless additives etc
and have huge lists too

its perhaps maybe more of a personality trait, someone that would waste all that money on useless hydro products
would most likely have a complex soil regime too if they were soil growers

i like to keep things as simple as possible, over the years i have removed what is unnecessary
rather than trying to add things to the system
 

FrozenChozen

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Sorry for your burden brother. I mean that. But that comment is simply unscientifically sound. Unless you're shitting and placing raw garbage or something else obviously unsanitary. Your comment is completely inaccurate and misleading.
the infectious diseases present in any fecal matter include:
ebola
ecoli
Lyme Disease
Salmonellosis
Tetanus
Anthrax
and MANY others.
Someone (especially a child) with ANY KIND of auto immune disorder or disease is HIGHLY susceptible to infection. Most minor infections that would normally not affect someone with a regular immune system function would run rampant through someone with an auto immune disorder.... Think your soils clean? Next time you have an open cut or wound, or even a rash, go get a handful of soil and rub it on the affected area, then see what happens to a "regular" person when presented with foreign bacteria.... This is the basic every day scenario with a 9 year old boy (rubbing dirt everywhere!), now imagine that you've been on steroids for 2 years to COMPLETELY disable your immune system, How long do you think that infection will last? Even minor infections in someone with an immune disorder can be fatal, HIV leads to an auto immune disorder, and as we all should know from high school science, its not HIV that will kill you but the auto immune disorder associated with it that will lead to your demise....
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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the infectious diseases present in any fecal matter include:
ebola
ecoli
Lyme Disease
Salmonellosis
Tetanus
Anthrax
and MANY others.
Someone (especially a child) with ANY KIND of auto immune disorder or disease is HIGHLY susceptible to infection. Most minor infections that would normally not affect someone with a regular immune system function would run rampant through someone with an auto immune disorder.... Think your soils clean? Next time you have an open cut or wound, or even a rash, go get a handful of soil and rub it on the affected area, then see what happens to a "regular" person when presented with foreign bacteria.... This is the basic every day scenario with a 9 year old boy (rubbing dirt everywhere!), now imagine that you've been on steroids for 2 years to COMPLETELY disable your immune system, How long do you think that infection will last? Even minor infections in someone with an immune disorder can be fatal, HIV leads to an auto immune disorder, and as we all should know from high school science, its not HIV that will kill you but the auto immune disorder associated with it that will lead to your demise....
I tend to agree with you here bro - I am always really concerned when handling Guano - that shit comes from a cave full of flying rats & bugs-a-mundo.
Kudos for being a good Dad.
 

Rrog

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yeh folk can make their soil or hydro grow as complex as they like
some folk can even be happy growing in miracle grow soil lol
i know many hydro growers are guilty of wasting money on useless additives etc
and have huge lists too

its perhaps maybe more of a personality trait, someone that would waste all that money on useless hydro products
would most likely have a complex soil regime too if they were soil growers

i like to keep things as simple as possible, over the years i have removed what is unnecessary
rather than trying to add things to the system
Great post, man
 

skunkd0c

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Rrog

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Skunk, really interesting question. Many years ago I ran through ICMag asking about Molasses and sulfur as flavor enhancers. The jury was sure out on that one. Serious growers were divided. I was surprised.

Now these great discussions about companion molecules. Makes sense. You shouldn't eat grapefruit with prescriptions as it can enhance the effect. So seems clear that it's certainly possible to influence the buzz beyond pure THC%.

There's a lot of talk about using LED and Plasma supplement even with HPS to make dank bud. I've always felt that UV-b helps and I use a reptile lamp.

So I guess I wouldn't be surprised (opinion time) if the nuance of the buzz as well as the severity might / could possibly differ by 20% beyond genetics?
 

skunkd0c

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quite a few hydro growers also believe that if they do not add a certain product their buds will not be as good
or they will imo exaggerate the level of improvement from the added item(s)

it seems many folk are looking for some kind of edge, so they can believe their weed is better
in order to do this they need to add something extra

i find it hard sometimes to distinguish weather they are deluded, or scientists conducting very important research on that mystery 5%
 

Rrog

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I so agree with you, and you stated it so well earlier. I think the male mind does the same thing with cars, bikes, stereo, etc. It's fun to tweak. Can be a compulsion, even.

I'm all for simpler is better, except now I'm adding local is better also
 

thump easy

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the truth is outdoor guys have all the fun but indoor can brag for years like my budies that send me pics on the phone at the bahamas or on their boats i say out door guys have all the fun while i get raves and crazzy good treatment it doesnt pay me my bills lolz pic one i think a big grow outdoor make the coin in the end.. i have no argument any more i dont care any more i will have to do both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

skunkd0c

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It's fun to tweak. Can be a compulsion, even.
thats a good word for it "tweak"
it is fun to tweak, but these little tweaks are only that
convincing ourselves our efforts improve things far more than they really have
and in many cases it would of been better left alone

folk do become obsessed with these tweaks
when the biggest overall difference is to just grow different genetics, as many as possible, keep the diversity as high as possible to stand a better chance of finding what you like

peace
 
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