Insight: Amare Tech Solar Spec LED Panels

PetFlora

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Thx, I was just wondering, why not just make a close up photo of the diodes. Epistars are easily to be spotted. And if there is even one epistar....



trying to find that amare thingy with google all I find is you posting the same thing, same posts in several forums. Do you get money for that? Or why bother advertising like that with no tech data?


No, I don't get paid, but I get free use of panels in exchange for HONEST reporting

If you've ever followed my grow threads, you would know I post warts and all, and say when I think I was the problem

Same as when I did a thread on BML SPYDR 600

As much as we want to know everything, manufacturers don't want to reveal it

Of course someone can buy one, then take it apart to expose all, but that would void the rather generous warranty

At the end of the day the qualifier is: does it grow (closely followed by will it last), and that, is why I have this thread- not for technical masturbation
 
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Greengenes707

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Why make a thread called insight if you won't show anything insightfu???

True honest reporting would show everything possible(pics don't void warranties...but no pics voids consumer trust FYI) and then give opinions on if it works like advertised based on your abilities.

Unless he is makin his own chips/die...nothing is a secret or proprietary. And the educated folk here will probably know more about the chips than amare ever would.
 

PetFlora

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I thought it would be finally over.
For me that has nothing to do with honest reporting, seeing you mentioning it every 3rd post.
Typing spydr into search and your name, confirms that you are overdoing it. (166times)
Actually made me hate it.

I post on multiple grow sites


I was pretty much the only person with SPYDR threads

so naturally a search would bring all of them up

Do the same for A 51, Apache Tech, OnyxBloom, Hans Panel...
 

PetFlora

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Why make a thread called insight if you won't show anything insightfu???

True honest reporting would show everything possible(pics don't void warranties...but no pics voids consumer trust FYI) and then give opinions on if it works like advertised based on your abilities.

Unless he is makin his own chips/die...nothing is a secret or proprietary. And the educated folk here will probably know more about the chips than amare ever would.
Jeez,

everybody calm the F down

When he is ready to make the info available he will

Look up the definition of Insight, it is multifaceted

The insight I am providing is taking seedlings to harvest, which if I'm not mistaken is the most important insight of all
 

Greengenes707

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Due to it becoming clear that the BML SPYDR 600 that I chose the spectrums for to be good for both veg and flower, has a major short-coming; too much red for vegging (though doing a fine job of flowering). I pretty much knew that reed should be on a separate switch, but guys were growing seedlings under 3000K COBs, so...
I have concluded that this example (sans red control) does not qualify as the LED Company I've Been Waiting For.

Amare Tech is a new-comer. Unlike BML, their panels were designed by a mj grower, the owner of the company, thus providing even umoles across the entire tent
Each panel has separate red/white o/o switches, which allows the grower to engage as needed, as well as piggy-back electric connections. Ultimately, he sees his panels as a system, where up to 4 panels can be connected electrically

I received both a SS 100 and SS 260 on September 18th. The 260 is waiting in the wings for the best plant to develop under the SS 100 (soon to be replaced with a SS 150).

Anyway although I was well aware that watts are not created equal, the SS 100 replaced the 2 white ufos (~ 100w total )that Jeff gifted me last December. They came san lenses, so I kept them closer to the seedlings and clones, but within 2 days it was clear that the SS 100 was a entirely different animal. Clearly not all watts are created equal. Intensity is the key. The clones that failed to root under the 2 ufos, quickly rooted under the SS 100.

The SS 100 appears to be a great light for a small perpetual grower, but when combined could easily bring 2-4 small plants to harvest. I call it The Little Engine That Could

Initially,, I had the SS 100 at 14", but after 24 hours had to move it up ~ 20" so the leafs could adjust

So here we are not quite 10 days later


Clones are in the upper left
So how do you know how the µmols are distributed....and when did getting designed by a mj grower qualify as the best tech in led's???

Why are you making such claims and not providing anything to back it up?
 

Yodaweed

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No, I don't get paid, but I get free use of panels in exchange for HONEST reporting

If you've ever followed my grow threads, you would know I post warts and all, and say when I think I was the problem

Same as when I did a thread on BML SPYDR 600

As much as we want to know everything, manufacturers don't want to reveal it

Of course someone can buy one, then take it apart to expose all, but that would void the rather generous warranty

At the end of the day the qualifier is: does it grow (closely followed by will it last), and that, is why I have this thread- not for technical masturbation
:( sounds like this may have something to do with this thread .
 

PetFlora

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Come on guys, especially GG707, you should know by now I am not THAT technically inclined. If I was, I would have built some DIY COBs. The build is simple, but should it have issues I would not know where to begin, neither do I have the test equipment, or know how to use it.

I don't think AT reveals much until you pony up your cash and BUY one. What a concept

All this temper tantrum ranting, demanding to know specs only degrades this thread. MANY do not care. All they want to SEE is the results. That's logical to me. If it's not to you then UNsub

Yoda, you don't know me at all to say that

My goal is to help all of us learn. First it was BML now it's Amare Tech

I have asked Amare for a list of what specs I can post, so hold on,

He said it's ok to reveal this: the diodes are top bin Epistar, and there is a Cree option


Now please, roll one and chill
 
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Yodaweed

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Come on guys, especially GG707, you should know by now I am not THAT technically inclined. If I was, I would have built some DIY COBs. The build is simple, but should it have issues I would not know where to begin, neither do I have the test equipment, or know how to use it.

I don't think AT reveals much until you pony up your cash and BUY one. What a concept

All this temper tantrum ranting, demanding to know specs only degrades this thread. MANY do not care. All they want to SEE is the results. That's logical to me. If it's not t you then UNsub

Yoda, you don't know me at all to say that

My goal is to help all of us learn. First it was BML now it's Amare Tech

I have asked Amare for a list of what specs I can post, so hold on,

He said it's ok to reveal this: the diodes are top bin Epistar, and there is a Cree option


Now please, roll one and chill
Top bin epistar doesn't sound like a quality light sounds like all Chinese diodes with 1 -2 cree diodes then they claim a all cree panel.
 

alesh

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For those interested in buying an Epistar based LED light, check the data sheets there. Well, I wouldn't buy one.
 

Greengenes707

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Come on guys, especially GG707, you should know by now I am not THAT technically inclined. If I was, I would have built some DIY COBs. The build is simple, but should it have issues I would not know where to begin, neither do I have the test equipment, or know how to use it.

I don't think AT reveals much until you pony up your cash and BUY one. What a concept

All this temper tantrum ranting, demanding to know specs only degrades this thread. MANY do not care. All they want to SEE is the results. That's logical to me. If it's not t you then UNsub

Yoda, you don't know me at all to say that

My goal is to help all of us learn. First it was BML now it's Amare Tech

I have asked Amare for a list of what specs I can post, so hold on,

He said it's ok to reveal this: the diodes are top bin Epistar, and there is a Cree option


Now please, roll one and chill
Then don't make technical references and claims if you can back them up...being uneducated in things isn't an excuse...read up, I know you have the time.
I am the AT cannabis tester. I have broken my NDA over and over sharing everything there is to know about the make up inside and out of an Apache... then I also show grow results to go along with actual technical insight.

EH had sent an undercover email to AT and asked for a pic of there boards and chips...AT took a photo and shared it with the thought to be customer...simply because they asked. And yet even after their "secret" chips were know by the public...no one steps up to use them because no one can afford to use them.


I wasn't and am not trying to bring AT into this or compare them right now...just wants know some specs on this light you are now the spokesman for... if it was someone else doing what you're do then you would be asking for everything that people in this thread are asking you now. So if you want to make it a vs thing...bring it on...otherwise I am just asking basic questions we ask from all light companies.

A51 is the most transparent company around...yet no one is stealing there full Cree concept because again...too much money to copy/implement to still make a quad digit profit that most companies are trying to shaft people into.

I jumped on you for being too pitchman with BML but then felt bad about it...now it's the same thing with a different company...not feeling bad anymore.
 
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PetFlora

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^ Ever read reports of the newest Hyundai automobiles?

They have steadily advanced ever closer to the BMWs of the world

Certainly close enough for most drivers, who will never push their cars anywhere near BMWs potential, and neither will 99% of all BMW owners


Now please...

be considerate of those who just want to know how well they grow, and leave your individual parts criticisms at the door

You could buy one, tare it apart and start your own thread for the small handful who get off on that
 

PetFlora

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Then don't make technical references and claims if you can back them up...being uneducated in things isn't and excuse...read up, I know you have the time.
I am the AT cannabis tester. I have broken my NDA over and over sharing everything there is to know about the make up inside and out of an Apache... then I also show grow results to go along with actual technical insight.

EH had sent an undercover email to AT and asked for a pic of there boards and chips...AT took a photo and sharted it with the thought to be customer...simply because they asked. And yet even after their "secret" chips were know by the public...no one steps up to use them because no one can afford to use them.


I wasn't and am not trying to bring AT into this or compare them right now...just wants know some specs on this light you are now the spokesman for... if it was someone else doing what you're do then you would be asking for everything that people in this thread are asking you now. So if you want to make it a vs thing...bring it on...otherwise I am just asking basic questions we ask from all light companies.

A51 is the most transparent company around...yet no one is stealing there full Cree concept because again...too much money to copy/implement to still make a quad digit profit that most companies are trying to shaft people into.

I jumped on you for being too pitchman with BML but then felt bad about it...now it's the same thing with a different company...not feeling bad anymore.
I don't feel bad for me either

You assume too much by calling me the 'spokesman' for Amare Tech

I am but a grower, showing what they can do, or can't, like the SPYDR

Show me where I have made any technical claims about SS panels.

Show me where I have ever probed and prodded for such info on anyone's new panel thread. I am pragmatic, results oriented, and not as technically anal as some of you :wall:

Just the opposite, which seems to upset you techies

It's a show me world for most people


For the umpteenth time, it is up to Amare to provide the 411, not me!

They are working on the www, so chill

So if I am the carpetbagger/pitchman you think me to be, just say no, and unsub


For those who don't unsub, pics tomorrow

:peace:
 
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PetFlora

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Top bin epistar doesn't sound like a quality light sounds like all Chinese diodes with 1 -2 cree diodes then they claim a all cree panel.

Doesn't sound like a quality light???????????????

You don't know??????????????????

But you think it's ok the make a slanderous comment?????????????????????????


Are you so blind that you keep overlooking the fact that Amare Tech offers a Cree option for those willing to pay for it?

Yoda would be pissed if he knew that you are using his namesake
 

PetFlora

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Hype? what did I hype? What about the title of this thread is hyped? What have I said that is hyped?

Getting back to my grow...

Babies should be acclimated to the 260

I cleaned the igloo bubbler, added fresh nutes ~ 400, lifted all the probable females into 1 liter air pots (raising the roots ~ 4") and doubled the volume of nutes

This also brings them 4" closer to the light, so I will be monitoring

Pics tomorrow
 
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Yodaweed

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Doesn't sound like a quality light???????????????

You don't know??????????????????

But you think it's ok the make a slanderous comment?????????????????????????


Are you so blind that you keep overlooking the fact that Amare Tech offers a Cree option for those willing to pay for it?

Yoda would be pissed if he knew that you are using his namesake
Slanderous comment because I said epistars aren't high quality? Sounds you need to read up about LED diodes , manufacturers and efficiency charts. This is just a low quality Chinese light with a fancy name and big price tag with a "cree option" lol. You would have been better off with advanced LEDs new series or a blackstar/vipar and by no means do I endorse those lights.
 

PetFlora

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Apparently you are not aware of the DIY COB threads where those guys only want the highest Cree bins

No different with Epistars

Bad Yoda
 

hyroot

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@Greengenes707 @puffenuff @Yodaweed , @ballist , @lax123 and who ever else. I'm going to be testing these lights too. I'm not going say anything about par. I don't have a meter. I'll show detailed pics. Get the best close-up of the bins I can.

Pet is afraid of divulging the wrong info. The current designs may not be what they have once the site is up. I've talked to these guys everyday almost. They tell me its top bin epistar. That's what vipar uses. Apollos from cidly, eshine, and bysen use epiled ( knock off epistar). The Cree option is for real. They told me not to say which. Because they're still working out what they are going to use. It ups the price more. I have seen designs and specs for future models not yet in production. They are actually pretty cool. You guys would like them.. I have had input in that as well. I'm not a liberty to say what those designs are until the panel is in my hands. Things may change before release. I straight up told them a51 is always sold out and considered one of the best. Along with apache. I more than stressed how important top bin led's are ad driving them soft for longevity. I explained how cidlly, bysen, and eshine have high fail rates and no one likes them. Amares is offering a lifetime limited warranty. 3 years full. Partial for life. I forget the percentage. A51 only does 2 year full coverage. I even told them about the Cree CXA Z4 and AB bin cobs and how they are killing everything. If they want them to fly off the shelves and make it passed us They will have to use all quality parts. I named drivers and heat sinks. I even told them to use larger heat sinks to help with the heat dissipation with their future designs. Hopefully they will. I even told them specific led's I would like them to use. You all know I'm all about high cri..

I'll have the first light by Monday. You guys know I don't bullshit. I've made a lot of my grower errors public knowledge... They told me to give an honest review.. You guys know I did with a51 and Inda gro. I've stated I like the overhead ig's more than the vert vpar. I even took it down for a while. That was due to heat and my ac leaking Freon and not working properly. I have it up again. I still like the overheads more.
 
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