Dont believe in Aliens? well explain this

ODanksta

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roseypeach said:
Some would say that aliens are proof of Satan and that he exists in any form he chooses. Some also say that aliens are merely demons in disguise. That said, I find all of this very fascinating :)
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Well if satan was able to fly ships around why would he just be playing around? He probably would get straight to the point. And if satan was able to fly around, what the fuck are angels doing then? Lol. Im not religious but very spiritual, probably due to the large amount of hallucinogens I have consumed. Thanks for stopping in.
 
Padawanbater2

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ODanksta said:
Well if satan was able to fly ships around why would he just be playing around? He probably would get straight to the point. And if satan was able to fly around, what the fuck are angels doing then? Lol. Im not religious but very spiritual, probably due to the large amount of hallucinogens I have consumed. Thanks for stopping in.
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How can you be 'spiritual' but not religious?
 
roseypeach

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ODanksta said:
Well if satan was able to fly ships around why would he just be playing around? He probably would get straight to the point. And if satan was able to fly around, what the fuck are angels doing then? Lol. Im not religious but very spiritual, probably due to the large amount of hallucinogens I have consumed. Thanks for stopping in.
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Good points for sure ;) I know many that say mushrooms bring them a "knowing"..never had any, been wanting to though! Thanks for having me :)
 
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roseypeach

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ginwilly said:
Gandhi?

I think Buddhism is more of a spiritual philosophy than a religion, but that may be a semantic argument. Religion comes in many forms. Some people believe an elected title gives special powers, that's religious like.
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All religion is spiritual so I guess that's a good argument. I believe in a higher power myself but I totally respect others outlooks. Just crazy bcuz someone was telling me the other day they believed aliens were demons here to deceive and do the devil's work. Just had to share ;)
 
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ginwilly said:
Gandhi?

I think Buddhism is more of a spiritual philosophy than a religion, but that may be a semantic argument. Religion comes in many forms. Some people believe an elected title gives special powers, that's religious like.
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What's the difference between spiritualism and religion?
 
ODanksta

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Padawanbater2 said:
How can you be 'spiritual' but not religious?
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I guess the term is agnostic, I don't believe the bible and I don't believe in heaven or hell. But I believe sometimes, something is watching over "us" or me. I have quite a twisted system I believe. Its something along the terms of alchemy, hindiusm, and freemasons. Lol.. I guess you could say I believe in the grand architect of the universe. Something that has happen to me in the last couple of years, after losing almost all my friends from high school. I see the number 33 everywhere. I try to explain it to people and they think I am crazy.I literally see hundreds and hundreds times a day. Honestly I was kinda scared there for a while, but I did a quick Google search and I found that I am not the only one, its actually quite common. So people say that 33 means the spirits are watching over you. Something out there is letting me know something I can not understand.So basically what I am saying is religious means going to church and being a hypocrite. Christianity says if you believe in god your going to hell, same shit with the Muslims. I believe that there is a mathematical code for life, that we simply cant understand. In the world of hallucinogens there is a term we use "mechanical elves" Its not something that is easy to explain. But its machines that are turning, twisting, altering our lives every second. They look like our DNA. They are weaving the fabric of our lifes. Sounds crazy as shit I know, but it takes something like DMT to even to be able to comprehend. Then we have the pineal gland that produces DMT in close to death situations, in deep sleep and at child birth. DMT is everywhere, and I believe they will never find the god particle because I believe its in our pineal gland. Sometimes some equations are never meant to be solved.

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heckler73

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roseypeach said:
All religion is spiritual so I guess that's a good argument. I believe in a higher power myself but I totally respect others outlooks. Just crazy bcuz someone was telling me the other day they believed aliens were demons here to deceive and do the devil's work. Just had to share ;)
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Economics is a religion.
They are some of the biggest atheists in academia :lol:
 
ODanksta

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SageOfUrna said:
You think its just a coincidence that people see aliens and spiritual life beings? It's not just joe shmo it's anyone who has taken a high dose of shrooms or small dose of DMT.

I was kind of convinced after being appreciated by aliens for being open minded and trying there fungi that they put here. There wa s a point where they sauid "I cant believe this dude is trying this hell yeah" Same thing with ergot and lsd it's a fungus. Those aliens mad and there fungi. I use to think stoners were very open minded and while some are most are very closed minded and ignorant and I saw that after tripping.

Psychedelics arent about getting 'fucked up' and you proved to me that you dont bring anything back with you thats meaningful after tripping. What takes place in your mind is the reality and those are words of Terence Mckenna. Your body is a slave for your mind.
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Isnt it kinda odd that cows produce mushrooms from the grain they eat, then ergot is a fungi that grows on rye? My brother doesnt believe in ufo's but believes that shrooms are actually aliens themselves. Now think about it for a second. There has been meteorites hitting the earth since the beginning of time as we know it. What if one those meteorites had the fungi on it? I dont know if that possible since they are fireballs but maybe with asteroids
 
heckler73

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ODanksta said:
Isnt it kinda odd that cows produce mushrooms from the grain they eat, then ergot is a fungi that grows on rye? My brother doesnt believe in ufo's but believes that shrooms are actually aliens themselves. Now think about it for a second. There has been meteorites hitting the earth since the beginning of time as we know it. What if one those meteorites had the fungi on it? I dont know if that possible since they are fireballs but maybe with asteroids
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Why do they need to come in on meteorites? They can just float casually down through the atmosphere with their buddies...

Can spores survive in interstellar space?
There is good evidence that life appeared on earth just 200-400 million years after the crust had cooled (assuming conventional methods of measuring age). Two hundred million years seems a bit on the short side for the spontaneous generation of life, although no one really knows just how long this process should take (forever?). The apparent rapidity of the onset of terrestrial life has led to a reexamination of the old panspermia hypothesis, in which spores, bacteria, or even nonliving "templates" of life descended on the lifeless but fertile earth from interstellar space.

P. Weber and J.M. Greenberg have now tested spores (actually Bacillus subtilis) under temperature and ultraviolet radiation levels expected in interstellar space. They found that 90% of the spores under test would be killed in times on the order of hundreds of years -- far too short for panspermia to work at interstellar distances. However, if the spores are transported in dark, molecular clouds, which are not uncommon between the stars, survival times of tens or hundreds of million years are indicated by the experiments. Under such conditions, the interstellar transportation of life is possible.

But perhaps the injection and capture phases of panspermia might be lethal to spores. Weber and Greenberg think not -- under certain conditions. The collision of a large comet or meteorite could inject spores from a life-endowed planet into space safely, particularly if the impacting object glanced off into space pulling ejecta after it. The terminal phase, the capture of spores from a passing molecular cloud by the solar system and then the earth, would be nonlethal if the spores were somehow coated with a thin veneer of ultraviolet absorbing material. In sum, the experiments place limits on panspermia, but do not rule it out by any means.

(Weber, Peter, and Greenberg, J. Mayo; "Can Spores Survive in Interstellar Space?" Nature, 316:403, 1985.)

Comment. Weber and Greenberg do not discuss the possible existence of dense, low-temperature regions in molecular clouds where conditions might be conducive to the development of large molecules. Does life have to have the proverbial warm, sunlit pond to develop?

From Science Frontiers #42, NOV-DEC 1985. © 1985-2000 William R. Corliss
 
ODanksta

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heckler73 said:
Why do they need to come in on meteorites? They can just float casually down through the atmosphere with their buddies...

Can spores survive in interstellar space?
There is good evidence that life appeared on earth just 200-400 million years after the crust had cooled (assuming conventional methods of measuring age). Two hundred million years seems a bit on the short side for the spontaneous generation of life, although no one really knows just how long this process should take (forever?). The apparent rapidity of the onset of terrestrial life has led to a reexamination of the old panspermia hypothesis, in which spores, bacteria, or even nonliving "templates" of life descended on the lifeless but fertile earth from interstellar space.

P. Weber and J.M. Greenberg have now tested spores (actually Bacillus subtilis) under temperature and ultraviolet radiation levels expected in interstellar space. They found that 90% of the spores under test would be killed in times on the order of hundreds of years -- far too short for panspermia to work at interstellar distances. However, if the spores are transported in dark, molecular clouds, which are not uncommon between the stars, survival times of tens or hundreds of million years are indicated by the experiments. Under such conditions, the interstellar transportation of life is possible.

But perhaps the injection and capture phases of panspermia might be lethal to spores. Weber and Greenberg think not -- under certain conditions. The collision of a large comet or meteorite could inject spores from a life-endowed planet into space safely, particularly if the impacting object glanced off into space pulling ejecta after it. The terminal phase, the capture of spores from a passing molecular cloud by the solar system and then the earth, would be nonlethal if the spores were somehow coated with a thin veneer of ultraviolet absorbing material. In sum, the experiments place limits on panspermia, but do not rule it out by any means.

(Weber, Peter, and Greenberg, J. Mayo; "Can Spores Survive in Interstellar Space?" Nature, 316:403, 1985.)

Comment. Weber and Greenberg do not discuss the possible existence of dense, low-temperature regions in molecular clouds where conditions might be conducive to the development of large molecules. Does life have to have the proverbial warm, sunlit pond to develop?

From Science Frontiers #42, NOV-DEC 1985. © 1985-2000 William R. Corliss
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Very nice find, thank you for sharing
 
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