DO I GET MORE YEILD IF I DON'T TOP??

[Okallright]

iv been reading some posts in this vertical grow forum, and read you don't top your plants ,
i top and do all the lst stuff and was just wondering if not topping will give me more yeild?

 

[Dr.D81]

You get more yeild because you have more canopy. I top in my vert setup, but it is grower style and strain dependent

 

[Okallright]

You get more yeild because you have more canopy. I top in my vert setup, but it is grower style and strain dependent
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thought as such...thanks

 

[JointOperation]

yup .. also depends how long before flowering your plants you top.. I have some that if I top right before 12/12 they will still stretch like a foot .. but others that if I top I need to wait a few extra weeks till turning into 12/12 or they will yield less..

 

[hyroot]

Depends on the strain. With vert you get more yield because you don't remove any lower growth like you would with horizontal lights. How well your plant does with different methods all depends on genetics.

 

[Wolf pack]

It's way more to it,than just not cleaning lower growth..
No matter how you grow,you want a canopy,with vert the canopy is 360
The whole bulb is being used.

As for topping for more yield,it all depends on you the grower..

 

[gardengardian7]

You get more yeild because you have more canopy. I top in my vert setup, but it is grower style and strain dependent
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Doc can you explain your pic a little for me. Im trying to understand if that is a single hps or if theres more lighting or what. I cant seem to identify.

 

[Dr.D81]

Just one 600 in the center of a 4 ft octagon on a light mover modified to a 16 in vertical motion. I have a 2 x 4 wire sceen up at 3ft across. I am three weeks in to 13 \ 11 now.

 

[gardengardian7]

Just one 600 in the center of a 4 ft octagon on a light mover modified to a 16 in vertical motion. I have a 2 x 4 wire sceen up at 3ft across. I am three weeks in to 13 \ 11 now.
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So does that mean it dips as a sun rise and set motion. And i take it that you build your set up?

 

[Dr.D81]

It goes straghit up and down every 20 min. i modified a hydrofarm unit and i built my room.

 

[gardengardian7]

It goes straghit up and down every 20 min. i modified a hydrofarm unit and i built my room.
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Man that so awsome! I never even knew about a light mover.
This will go in my safe of knowledge and strategy. I truly appreciate you taking the time to share your magic. Thanks

 

[harris hawk]

Just use bloom boosters in early, middle and late flower stage, each stage needs a specific N-P-K and a good root stimulator is a must

 

[Heavy Consumer]

Just one 600 in the center of a 4 ft octagon on a light mover modified to a 16 in vertical motion. I have a 2 x 4 wire sceen up at 3ft across. I am three weeks in to 13 \ 11 now.
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Just, WOW! Blown away! What a beautiful image! And I bet you don't need to be as much of a noob as I am to react this way. That looks like stunning use being made of a 4ft diameter space and a single light. For my first foray I'll be keeping things infinitely easier, but again, WOW! Thanks for sharing.

Just out of curiosity, is there an LED light with the capability of servicing a configuration like this?

 

[Dr.D81]

Yes there are a couple out there but they are still high

 

[a senile fungus]

Go with CMH!

Beautiful cri and par levels

 

[MrMeanGreen]

Any form of training is a bitter sweet scinario. Training will increase green matter or efficacy of light etc but will cost you in increased overall grow time. Topping or fimming will increase tops and foliage but will reduce light quality to second level of buds.

Took me a while to accept but nature has had millions if not billions of years to figure out the best way to present its leaf to the all powerful sun. If you are growing conventional horizontal method leave well alone as nature has already done the homework. Vert is out of natures job description and a new style so to speak so do what the funk u want and share your results.

 

[SnapsProvolone]

Optimized lit canopy = increased yield. No matter how you do it.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

Optimized lit canopy = increased yield. No matter how you do it.

This is true but folk tend to ignore the time element. Then again, if u got a seperate veg room ya can train all day long and not affect your flowering room.

 

[SnapsProvolone]

This is true but folk tend to ignore the time element. Then again, if u got a seperate veg room ya can train all day long and not affect your flowering room.

Or you can veg untrained as do I, get them about 5 fert tall x 4 feet wide. Roll them into flower and spread them under a trellis to about 3 ft tall and flower. All the training is done in a day.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

Or you can veg untrained as do I, get them about 5 fert tall x 4 feet wide. Roll them into flower and spread them under a trellis to about 3 ft tall and flower. All the training is done in a day.

I tried that and failed, too much bending at flip time seems to knock the stuffing out of mine. Bud size and density was affected big time. I train as I go now, each plant is individually caged so I can gently train em, saves on the shock factor and works well for me.