Death by a thousand cuts - Thomas Jefferson kicks Muslim asses

[SmokeyDan]

Again I'm not defending Islam, I was merely pointing out that some Christian sects are equally as fucked up as those Muslim nutters.
Do you not think the WBC wouldn't cut off a head or two if they got away with it?
Your tax dollars in some part funds these guys and yet they can fly to Baghdad to protest against the good 'ol US of A as the guests of Saddam!
I watched the scenes on TV where they picketed the funerals of dead soldiers with no regard for why they died or indeed their grieving families, those young soldiers who were killed by Muslim fuckwits in Afghanistan or Iraq and then condemned by Christian fuckwits in America as they are being laid to rest, do you not see the problem there?
I've had a lifetime of listening to Catholic clergy pontificating on morals and now it's the turn of the Imams etc who are denouncing the lifestyles of the people of their adopted home and refusing to condemn violence against women so by all means defend Christianity if it means something to you but it along with Islam or any other religion for that matter mean shit to me.

I realize baseless allegations of some kind of parity between christianity and Islam are popular today and here on RIU.

That doesn't make them true.

The craziest christians are the moral equivalent of moderate Islam.

Bill Maher reported that 90% of Egyptian Muslims believe the appropriate punishment for apostasy is death.

While the WBC are a bunch of assholes, they've yet to kill or injure anyone to my knowledge.

You say they might if they could get away with it, that being speculation notwithstanding, to muslims getting away with it isn't a concern.

Christian societies are capable of living in peace with non christian neighbors, Islamic societies have yet to do this.

 

[ChesusRice]

"How many Mexicans were beheaded or brutally murdered by devout Catholic drug lords, those same devotees will if paid enough money assist any terrorist to enter the US...."

They are coming here, you got that right.

Why would they risk coming thru the southern border when our northern border is the worlds longest unsecured border?

 

[fr3d12]

I realize baseless allegations of some kind of parity between christianity and Islam are popular today and here on RIU.

That doesn't make them true.

The craziest christians are the moral equivalent of moderate Islam.

Bill Maher reported that 90% of Egyptian Muslims believe the appropriate punishment for apostasy is death.

While the WBC are a bunch of assholes, they've yet to kill or injure anyone to my knowledge.

You say they might if they could get away with it, that being speculation notwithstanding, to muslims getting away with it isn't a concern.

Christian societies are capable of living in peace with non christian neighbors, Islamic societies have yet to do this.

Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan seem to be live peacefully with their neighbours, it's only in the countries where western Govts. especially the US has meddled in affairs that there is continuing bloodshed through the constant instability created
How about Sunni Mauritania and Tajikistan, who are they fighting with?
So in some respects Christianity has evolved at a faster pace than Islam and with the exception of a small number of Christian extremist groups has left the killing in the past it still doesn't put them on any kind of moral high ground.
Mother Teresa believed that the sick and disabled had to suffer so as to show God their love and withheld treatment and medications from them, she was just a sadist and did it all in the name of religion.
“There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering,”
That's a quote from the Saint herself but yet when she needed end of life care herself she got it in the states.
She also refused to hand back stolen money donated to her by Charles Keating and even wrote to Judge Lance Ito on his behalf.

Christianity has done as much damage as Islam has, neither have made the world a better place to live in.

 

[thump easy]

"How many Mexicans were beheaded or brutally murdered by devout Catholic drug lords, those same devotees will if paid enough money assist any terrorist to enter the US...."

They are coming here, you got that right.

but they were already hear remember columbas landed hear they were native to this land before anyone lolz thats why i dont do politics wow that a prity long way to come to this land mass and push people around crazzy right???? instead of hate and seperation no wounder other countries dont like us.. to me i bet outside beeings from other galaxies trip out on this shit from up high it looks fucken crazzy to me??? politics i cant do them.. to me when they get hear its on.. like donky kong if you havent been in los angles thier everywere muslims lolz for realz they dont bother me any..

 

[fr3d12]

THEY ARE NOT KILLING IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD, in the drug cartel You made that up. It is drugs they are killing in the name of.

Knock it off, ok? Why did you say, Drug Lords are devout Catholics if that has nothing to do with it? What gives you the idea these thugs are devout Catholics?

The Church will not agree.

You are the foolish minion of whitebread thinking.

They want ISLAM to cover the Earth, Frist they are after the Caliphate of the 650s AD all the way into Spain.

And they are taking heads and will not allow personal freedom.

Why do think that has anything to do with drug cartels except they are linking up to invade the USA and take heads, here?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/10/23/us-mexico-drugs-church-idUSTRE69M02F20101023
http://articles.latimes.com/1997/oct/21/news/mn-44987
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/22/mexico
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2787206/Mexico-captures-Juarez-Cartel-boss-government-source.html

I will say it once again for you, I NEVER SAID THEY WERE KILLING IN THE NAME OF CATHOLICISM but the church is complicit in any kind of crime if they accept the blood money.
Do you really think that the Mexican Bishops care who the cartels do business with as long as they receive their alms.
Again it all comes down to the morality of these religious leaders who condemn publicly yet have no issue accepting "gifts" from murderous madmen who kill on a whim and with the same brutality as IS.
You say no religion is as bad as Islam and I say they are all the same behind all the bluster.
Anyway I'm done now and my apologies if I offended you earlier

 

[Uncle Ben]

"How many Mexicans were beheaded or brutally murdered by devout Catholic drug lords, those same devotees will if paid enough money assist any terrorist to enter the US...."

They are coming here, you got that right.

They ARE here, coming thru the porous Mexican border while Nero plays with his putter at some golf course or fund raiser. Close friend and neighbor told me about his son-in-law who has a hunting ranch in Van Horn (west Texas) near the border, found 5 men on his land with backpacks on speaking a foreign language foreign to them (not Spanish). They roped them, tied them up, and the sheriff took them away. Turned out to be Russian muslims. Still don't know what was in the backpacks but I doubt if it was Vienna sausages.

In my county we have militia since Obama refuses to secure the border. Some of these guys have 50 ca. machine guns mounted on the back of their jeeps.

Texan member over at Riddle3M told me about a militia group you can join and call up at the Love's truck stop between Laredo and San Antonio. If you don't believe me, call that Love's up. I can TRY to get the # if you want. We are taking matters into our own hands.

This isn't the great country of the 60's anymore.

Happy Columbus Day,
Tio

 

[Padawanbater2]

They ARE here, coming thru the porous Mexican border while Nero plays with his putter at some golf course or fund raiser. Close friend and neighbor told me about his son-in-law who has a hunting ranch in Van Horn (west Texas) near the border, found 5 men on his land with backpacks on speaking a foreign language foreign to them (not Spanish). They roped them, tied them up, and the sheriff took them away. Turned out to be Russian muslims. Still don't know what was in the backpacks but I doubt if it was Vienna sausages.

In my county we have militia since Obama refuses to secure the border. Some of these guys have 50 ca. machine guns mounted on the back of their jeeps.

Texan member over at Riddle3M told me about a militia group you can join and call up at the Love's truck stop between Laredo and San Antonio. If you don't believe me, call that Love's up. I can TRY to get the # if you want. We are taking matters into our own hands.

This isn't the great country of the 60's anymore.

Happy Columbus Day,
Tio

Goddamn you're crazy as fuck

 

[Uncle Ben]

Where in the hell do you live, in lala land?

Goddamn you're crazy as fuck

Denial is not a river in Egypt. This is real. I'll post the posts in that thread FYI:

Me:
It's all about states rights. I'm sick of the feds!

Interesting, I'm not into this guerilla stuff or conspiracies but I live in a Tea Party county. We don't like Obama and his nazi thuggery via the IRS, NSA, etc. Had a beer with a friend recently....we're talking about ISIS and other Muslim butchers coming across the Tex/Mex border and he says, "we're ready for them (and the feds). There's a small militia here. Some folks even have 50 caliber machine guns mounted to their jeeps." Kinda took me by surprise....

Response from another forum member:
You can believe it! I know people who live down where the militia are and they got a number you can call and talk to the militia.Of course I called and talked to them. Their head quarters is at Loves truck stop on the highway between San Antonio and Laredo. I forgot what # Loves truck stop it is but you can google it and call them yourself.

You aint even hearing the 1/2 of it on mainstream media. I know people who live right in the middle of that shit and its been going on for years it just got exposed recently.

Member replies again:
when you call the militia theyre gonna tell you they have troops on the ground and something like the mission is on and get your guns and come down there.He said if you are too old or something to fight you can drive food and water to the people out in the field.

A few weeks ago they were advertising on the radio here (Cool 92.5) for people to join the south east Texas militia and go down to the border.I didn't even know we had 1.

Me:
Wow, thanks for the info! So, who are they fighting? Muslims or illegals?

Reply:
He wouldn't say too much on the phone...from what I got out of how he was saying what he was saying if you were in the Militia or had been in the military you would know what he meant. Like we have troops on the ground and something about The Mission.

He did say they had militia here and in Arizona from other states and the purpose was to secure the border against who ever. Illegals, camel jockeys and the feds keeping them open.

 

[Doer]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/10/23/us-mexico-drugs-church-idUSTRE69M02F20101023
http://articles.latimes.com/1997/oct/21/news/mn-44987
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/22/mexico
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2787206/Mexico-captures-Juarez-Cartel-boss-government-source.html

I will say it once again for you, I NEVER SAID THEY WERE KILLING IN THE NAME OF CATHOLICISM but the church is complicit in any kind of crime if they accept the blood money.
Do you really think that the Mexican Bishops care who the cartels do business with as long as they receive their alms.
Again it all comes down to the morality of these religious leaders who condemn publicly yet have no issue accepting "gifts" from murderous madmen who kill on a whim and with the same brutality as IS.
You say no religion is as bad as Islam and I say they are all the same behind all the bluster.
Anyway I'm done now and my apologies if I offended you earlier

I didn't say that. I don't even see Islam as a religion, and neither do they.

I said that other Religions are tolerate of other Religions and Islam is not. No other religion gives the fear for your life from the cleric thuggery, if you say, there can be toleration of other religions.

Islam is a Ideology Supremacist movement intent on force for all of us..

Meanwhile, the Catholic Church is reaching out to gays for dialog, this week.

So, ISLAM is not even a religion, it is a war cult with a war slave doctrine of in-tolerance, violence against women, etc, as it's pap for the cowering masses as the Mullahs rule them like they are babies.

It is Governance of the same ilk as the Cult of Dear Leader in North Korea.

The Muslim faith as practiced in the USA has a chance to become a Religion, it they can become un-fearful of Fatwah killings. But, the oil money runs the show here, so no chance of that, any time soon.

And please, don't play the offended me card. I don't get offend by photons coming off my monitor. I hate all Religions and war cults and Supremacy movements.

 

[Doer]

Goddamn you're crazy as fuck

I love it when you are reduced to squawking petty insults. Real is so shocking for the World Fascist Zombie Youts, isn't it?

 

[Uncle Ben]

You nailed what should be obvious to everyone - Islam's goals & MO. Most violent bunch of sick bastards that EVER walked the face of the earth.

Doer, read my previous ditty. it might be an eye opener for you.

 

[Doer]

but they were already hear remember columbas landed hear they were native to this land before anyone lolz thats why i dont do politics View attachment 3273014View attachment 3273019 wow that a prity long way to come to this land mass and push people around crazzy right???? instead of hate and seperation no wounder other countries dont like us.. to me i bet outside beeings from other galaxies trip out on this shit from up high it looks fucken crazzy to me??? politics i cant do them.. to me when they get hear its on.. like donky kong if you havent been in los angles thier everywere lolz for realz they dont bother me any..

You are right. You do get politics.

 

[Doer]

You nailed what should be obvious to everyone - Islam's goals & MO. Most violent bunch of sick bastards that EVER walked the face of the earth.

Doer, read my previous ditty. it might be an eye opener for you.

I read it all. And it doesn't surprise me. The Fed is punting here and we are still America with or without them.

 

[UncleBuck]

Buck has no valid point. He is making blanket racist statements against whites across the board.
He is practicing sick and base moral equivalence sophism. The Whites? He is a "reverse racist."

And though I did denounce all those"the whites" things, he admits it not and now he turns on Lady Sky, and says she must be racist.

So quick to defend violent Jihad. Can you believe that?

So he puffs up and the Muslim guy doesn't have to answer. And we know the answer.,

It is blaspheme to do what I did. No Muslim can attest before Allah like I just did.

The Religion of Islam is violent SUPREMACIST at it's core and you will never get
a Muslim to deny that. . That is a big problem in this world.

They want to tap dance about the meaning of Inner Jihad, while they practice
internal Conquest.

I did not ask that Muslim to come on here and defend the Faith in Politics. But, I did
ask him about his Supremacist Concepts and he had no answer.

Buck says it ain't so and that I Lie that even know Muslims or ask them.

AND YET HE JUST SCREWED THE POOCH AND QUEERED THE ANSWER
so he doesn't have to hear for himself.

So, Buck I guess would have apologized for Hitler, too..

all that is great, rockodile, except that the dude did answer your question.

apparently you reading compensation has failed you?

 

[UncleBuck]

Buck is making a moral equivalence comparing NFL personal problems to ISLAM beheading allowed in scripture.

Idiot.

so it means nothing when your fellow civilized westerners excuse or justify the merciless beating of women, but if you don't actively hear a muslim denouncing it, then they are automatically in favor of it.

nice double standard there.

say, doer. i never heard you condemn ray rice or his apologists and defenders, that must mean that you advocate for domestic assault against women.

 

[UncleBuck]

I was hoping the guy would answer your valid question but it seems he is unwilling to do so thus far.

did everyone just read past the part where he answered doer's retarded question?

Therefore yes there is a place for all different peoples on earth & no-one has the right to force or coerce others into following a particular religion including Islam. Take it easy buddy

 

[fr3d12]

I didn't say that. I don't even see Islam as a religion, and neither do they.

I said that other Religions are tolerate of other Religions and Islam is not. No other religion gives the fear for your life from the cleric thuggery, if you say, there can be toleration of other religions.

Islam is a Ideology Supremacist movement intent on force for all of us..

Meanwhile, the Catholic Church is reaching out to gays for dialog, this week.

So, ISLAM is not even a religion, it is a war cult with a war slave doctrine of in-tolerance, violence against women, etc, as it's pap for the cowering masses as the Mullahs rule like babies.

It is Governance of the same ilk as the Cult of Dear Leader in North Korea.

The Muslim faith as practiced in the USA has a chance to become a Religion, it they can become un-fearful of Fatwah killings. But, the oil money runs the show here, so no chance of that, any time soon.

And please, don't play the offended me card. I don't get offend by photons coming off my monitor.
I hate all Religions and war cults.

I wasn't playing any card, just trying to play fair is all, no skin off my nose.

 

[fr3d12]

did everyone just read past the part where he answered doer's retarded question?

I missed it first time around.
I don't see where the harm is in Doer asking the question though.
You yourself have asked many questions similar of members about their views and beliefs which you deemed valid so why is Doers question retarded?

 

[UncleBuck]

I missed it first time around.
I don't see where the harm is in Doer asking the question though.
You yourself have asked many questions similar of members about their views and beliefs which you deemed valid so why is Doers question retarded?

because underlying it is the assumption that all muslims are guilty of whatever cooked up shit doer has concocted in his head.

 

[SmokeyDan]

Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan seem to be live peacefully with their neighbours, it's only in the countries where western Govts. especially the US has meddled in affairs that there is continuing bloodshed through the constant instability created
How about Sunni Mauritania and Tajikistan, who are they fighting with?
So in some respects Christianity has evolved at a faster pace than Islam and with the exception of a small number of Christian extremist groups has left the killing in the past it still doesn't put them on any kind of moral high ground.
Mother Teresa believed that the sick and disabled had to suffer so as to show God their love and withheld treatment and medications from them, she was just a sadist and did it all in the name of religion.
“There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering,”
That's a quote from the Saint herself but yet when she needed end of life care herself she got it in the states.
She also refused to hand back stolen money donated to her by Charles Keating and even wrote to Judge Lance Ito on his behalf.

Christianity has done as much damage as Islam has, neither have made the world a better place to live in.

Thailand is the only country in its region that was not colonized.

Thailand has a Muslim minority and they cause trouble.

Now, I'll admit to not knowing a lot about the two central Asian countries you brought up.

I'd wager, given their location they are muslim majority, and probably mostly overwhelmingly so.

I think you and others like you revel in finding something bad done by a person claiming a religion.

Christianity and Islam have both contributed positive things to our worldwide culture.

Both have done, are doing, and will continue to do things which are negatives.

I'm not a religious person. I don't fear christianity. I do fear, not for my life or anyone elses, if christianity took control of our government. It would be bad because good things would be repressed.

Islam does preach that I am to be subjugated for not submitting.

Jesus said decide, muhammad said submit.

Every bad part of Islam has a counterpart in Christianity. It does. The difference is degree.

I see what you're saying. It's just incorrect.

If you want to compare the tyranny of a prayer over the intercom at schools to the tyranny imposed by muslims onto non muslims as equivalent, there is no help for you.