4/4/4/4/4/4 light cycle?

SpaceBuddha

SpaceBuddha

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@TwistItUp man does it ever get lonely talking by yourself? :D

I've decided to use the 4/4 for my next grow, with the information I gathered it does seem legit and worth trying. Hopefully it will manage my current heat issues a bit.

This dog isn't too old to learn new tricks, I'm actually very excited about trying something new here. Let's see about a grow journal once these critical babies sprout.
 
TwistItUp

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Are you talking about vertical growing with a light mover that is moved vertically above the canopy and drops to just above the pants but then goes up again?
If that's the kiss method it sounds interesting, I read that you can get the hood/bulb pretty close because it doesn't stay there long and won't burn the plants this way.
 
TwistItUp

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SpaceBuddha said:
@TwistItUp man does it ever get lonely talking by yourself? :D

I've decided to use the 4/4 for my next grow, with the information I gathered it does seem legit and worth trying. Hopefully it will manage my current heat issues a bit.

This dog isn't too old to learn new tricks, I'm actually very excited about trying something new here. Let's see about a grow journal once these critical babies sprout.
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^ " @TwistItUp man does it ever get lonely talking by yourself? :D"
Sometimes, but at times I'd be better off if I was allowed to just keep it that way and retain the freedom of speech where I don't have to say things that others think might incriminate myself. Or maybe that's pleading the fifth. I guess I'm labeled the bad guy either way. Or rather maybe not retain the freedom of speech, and continue talking to myself, I don't know.
 
ISK

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SpaceBuddha said:
@TwistItUp man does it ever get lonely talking by yourself? :D

I've decided to use the 4/4 for my next grow, with the information I gathered it does seem legit and worth trying. Hopefully it will manage my current heat issues a bit.

This dog isn't too old to learn new tricks, I'm actually very excited about trying something new here. Let's see about a grow journal once these critical babies sprout.
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LOL...I never seen anyone quote themselves like the twister does....he clearly has no issues with "hi-jacking a thread" (yours is not the only one he has trampled upon)

I hope you post a journal about your 4/4 experiment, as many of us would be interested in following it
 
alcohol

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T.H.Cammo said:
Thank you for that link, I read it. The article talks about CO2 that the plant has absorbed and then, to some degree, released. That is completely whithin the way I understand a plant works.

Much the same way that we inhale air (containing about 18% Oxygen). If we are exercising, we "burn" somewhat more oxygen; if we are at rest, we "burn" somewhat less. But either way, we don't "burn" it all. We exhale some of it back into the atmosphere. But we don't produce the Oxygen, we just release the excess.

The article doesn't say that plants PRODUCE CO2, it just says that they RELEASE what they don't use. I said I doubted that plants produce CO2 - I still do! It makes sense that a plant would release a higher concentration of CO2 at night while photosynthesis is dormant. I'll have to go back and reread that article to see if it states anything about the PPM of CO2 that one can expect - it may be significant; maybe not.

Interesting!
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Here, I'll spell it out for you. The opposite of photosynthesis is respiration and this pathway is activated during the dark period since energy can no longer be harnessed from light. Plants require energy all the time and one way to remain in energy homeostasis is to metabolize glucose.

Do you see? Plants metabolize glucose at night. The metabolic fate of glucose is ATP, CO2 and H2O vapor.
 
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TwistItUp

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alcohol said:
Here, I'll spell it out for you. Respiration is the opposite of photosynthesis and this pathway is activated during the dark period since energy can no longer be harnessed. In order to remain in homeostasis, plants require glucose all the time.

Do you see? Plants metabolize glucose at night. The metabolic fate of glucose is ATP, CO2 and H2O vapor.
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You might be a good person to ask. Can you explain transpiration please, as well as you explained respiration.
 
TwistItUp

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Transpiration is I think basically how plants sweat. That's what its called when I guess water evaporating or what not out of the leaves.
Trying to understand that better.
 
sunny747

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dadio161 said:
I have never heard of this light cycle as an experiment. I would be greatly concerned about how the ballast would handle being turned off and on so often and the bulb also. I flower using a 12/12 light cycle. Using a 600W digital ballast , my electric bill only went about $20 a month .
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My whole setup runs on 450 watts. What's crazy is that my bills have gone up around $75. I was wondering if that's because of where I live (In Cali). I think they gouge us here.
 
dadio161

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My grow room has two fans that run 24/7 . a 600W digital HPS light , a 2' 4 bulb T-5 light for veg.
My electric bill has only gone up about $20 more than normal. I live in Colorado.
 
TwistItUp

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I recently read something about electric companies charging a lot more during winter months.
I think its bogus and I hope it is bs because the guy was suggesting that the elec companies charge 3x the amount during winter months.
They probably do charge more in winter, but 3x as much. Is this true?
Might have been a youtube video. The guy was saying it didn't make sense we run all these fans and A/C during summer. Then in winter
they heat their home with a wood burning stove, not running all those fans like in summer, no A/c and his bill is 3x more expensive.
Also, I've read that every location can be a little different when it comes to wiring. A 600 watt ballast in one home might be pulling under
600 watts, while the same setup somewhere else might be pulling closer to 700 watts.
As far as I know most ballasts draw a little more power then they are rated.
If that is true, it could be tough to use a formula to calculate what it should cost to run it.
Again a bit on the off topic side so I'm sorry about that but, this seemed like a fitting thread to share that.
 
ttystikk

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TwistItUp said:
I've never heard of that one. I keep it pretty basic though. I just keep it to 18/6 for veg and 12/12 in bloom. If I feel the need to veg something else while my tent is being used for bloom, then I'll do 24/0 open room under t5. I also have a 180watt jumbo ufo led light, but I'd never run that thing open room. It causes my eyes to have a green hue no matter what I look at after seeing that purple light. T5's seem a lot better then led, and I'm not too big on cfl. So again I keep my lighting pretty basic, MH, HPS. On a side note, I read something about plants giving off Co2 during the dark cycle, and people are saying that plants get like a burst of growth when the lights first come on because of the built up Co2. Maybe food for thought I don't know.
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That afterglow in your eyes is called retina burn and its from the UV light emitted from the lamp.

Wear sunglasses when working indoors, especially in veg. Macular degeneration is how they'll know what our generation did for a living...
 
TwistItUp

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TwistItUp said:
haha, they called it an interview.
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And I never did or planned anything bad either.
I just had a theory about something bad that happened, how it might have been done, and wanted to tell someone so it wouldn't happen again.
I didn't know how to tell someone so I wrote it down. I was really upset about it and couldn't calm down, no one would listen when I said just take me to the hospital, so I faked a stroke. They took me, then they fucking gave them the stupid theory shit I wrote and they worked me over.
 
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bryleetch said:
Some science for you... http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=826
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Okay, Okay! Now I get it! I guess I skimmed over that UCSB article in your link a bit too fast. I missed the part about: when the plant burns it's sugar to produce energy - it actually produces CO2 as a by-product. All doubt is officially withdrawn concerning this issue! Thanks for the Heads Up.

I guess it's true, what they say, "You learn something new everyday". On the other hand (you can teach an old dog new tricks).
 
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