Canada gets CIA powers

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ChesusRice

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iam_isaid said:
I wasn't here two years ago so it's not really relevant to this discussion, although while you might claim outsourcing spying to allies via the five eyes agreement is prolific, in reality it is just not the case. Read an inspector generals report to see how rarely that actually happens.
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Yeah its been rarely happening since the early 90s
 
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iam_isaid

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Doer said:
A little mis-leading? You are new around here I guess. Who cares what you would have called my thread?

Do your own, when you get enough posts that is. And who knows? Certainly you do not.
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Yeah misleading as the legislation being updated reflects NSA type authority - which is NOT what the CIA does.

Doer said:
Lack of WILL. There is plenty of money. Canada has a weak will and a Pork Gut, just like the USA. Fiddling while Jihad burns the world.
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http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/11/25/pork-barrelling-pushes-canada-past-600b-in-debt
We can argue about whether stimulus spending several years ago was worth it. But one thing we can probably all agree on is the pork barrel spending happening right now, all across this country, needs to stop.

Sun Media columnists have been decrying these expenses for the past couple weeks.

David Akin has drawn attention to “about $940,000 worth of grants to snowmobile clubs, all of which are in Quebec.” Anthony Furey lamented “$1 million to a gluten-free Alberta bakery.”

A Charles Adler column highlighted the following: “Over $14,000 for a new HVAC system at a library in Castlegar, B.C. $25,000 for a farming journal published 10 times a year, based in Nova Scotia.”

Unfortunately, the list goes on. Your money given to seemingly random projects at businesses, local governments and community groups.
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It's gone straight over your head, forget about it.
 
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ChesusRice

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They have been doing this for at least 30 years. I remember when a telecom company was intentionally routing long distance calls thru Canada so that the NSA could claim their intercepts were in another country

Echelon and the UK/USA agreement go back decades and we have always asked and reciprocated requests to spy on our citizens.
See it isnt illegal if another country spys on our citizens and then turns the transcripts over to us and vice versa

Pretty fucked up eh?

Here is the book I read that included it back in 1990
http://www.amazon.com/The-Underground-Empire-Governments-Embrace/dp/0385175353
 
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Doer

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iam_isaid said:
Yeah misleading as the legislation being updated reflects NSA type authority - which is NOT what the CIA does.



It's gone straight over your head, forget about it.
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It doesn't go over my head, but it does just fly past non-thinker, like you.
 
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You have no idea what the CIA or your own security apparatus actually does, or not do you, amsaid?
 
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iam_isaid

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Doer said:
You have no idea what the CIA or your own security apparatus actually does, or not do you, amsaid?
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even though i had to point out to you that CIA and NSA engage in totally different collection methods not to mention the rest of the five eyes partners have civilian oversight that releases annual declassified reports to the public.

When you realize the fundamental differences between the two agencies let me know and maybe this conversation can move forward. Or are collection management types walking the globe with antennas on their heads scooping up signals and spitting out reports?
 
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