Man-made global warming is a lie and not backed up by science, claims leading meteorologist.

abandonconflict

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Where is your citation for this idiotic claim, I've been waiting and waiting, come on back it up with, SCIENCE!
Now, who's getting owned ? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Ice breakers can now pass in winter since there is no multiyear ice in that part of the arctic anymore. You asking for a citation is just fucking obtuse. It is common fucking knowledge that ships can regularly take the northwest passage. Even Wikipedia is up to date on this. What do you want, something from NASA?

Idiot.
 

jahbrudda

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2009 was the first year ever that the northwest passage remained navigable year round.
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Ice breakers can now pass in winter since there is no multiyear ice in that part of the arctic anymore. You asking for a citation is just fucking obtuse. It is common fucking knowledge that ships can regularly take the northwest passage. Even Wikipedia is up to date on this. What do you want, something from NASA?

Idiot.
I posted an old newspaper article from 1905 showing the first ship navigating the Northwest Passage, so that is proof the ice cap was smaller back then. It wasn't navigable again until the 1940s, so that means the ice cap grew until the 1940s and shrunk again.

You come back with " 2009 was the first year ever that the northwest passage remained navigable year round"

And now it's only ice breakers that can navigate year round.

What a face palm. LOL
 

ginjawarrior

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I posted an old newspaper article from 1905 showing the first ship navigating the Northwest Passage, so that is proof the ice cap was smaller back then. It wasn't navigable again until the 1940s, so that means the ice cap grew until the 1940s and shrunk again.
Perhaps you should go research your story again...

It took them 3 years to make the journey the majority of that their ship was stuck in ice

Yet you claim this as proof there was less ice then?
 

abandonconflict

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I posted an old newspaper article from 1905 showing the first ship navigating the Northwest Passage, so that is proof the ice cap was smaller back then. It wasn't navigable again until the 1940s, so that means the ice cap grew until the 1940s and shrunk again.

You come back with " 2009 was the first year ever that the northwest passage remained navigable year round"

And now it's only ice breakers that can navigate year round.

What a face palm. LOL
Sometimes a little bit of multiyear ice has melted in the summer. You think there was a contradiction where there wasn't yet you want a peer reviewed citation for open shipping lanes. So please provide proof that the northwest passage was regularly open in 1905 year round as a shipping lane.
 

jahbrudda

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Perhaps you should go research your story again...

It took them 3 years to make the journey the majority of that their ship was stuck in ice

Yet you claim this as proof there was less ice then?
There was less ice back then, there are many years where there is too much ice to make the trip during the summer season..
I've done my research well, what you fail to realize is that it was over 100 years ago and done by a sailing ship made of wood.

In1944 the first successful single season trip was made in 86 days.

How come you're not saying anything about abandonconflic's claim that in 2009 the Northwest Passage was navigable all year round? LOL
 

Padawanbater2

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Citation required.

Nice sig. BTW, the St. Roch was specially ice reinforced.

Do you still not know what multiyear ice is?
You should just stop talking with people like this, no amount of evidence will convince them, there's literally no point to doing it

Let the progress carry on and let the idiots continue to think they're winning, it makes no difference
 

abandonconflict

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You should just stop talking with people like this, no amount of evidence will convince them, there's literally no point to doing it

Let the progress carry on and let the idiots continue to think they're winning, it makes no difference
I'm enjoying it. Did you know that very recently for the first time ever, a cargo ship navigated the northwest passage with out a cutter escort? Cutters can only navigate first year ice.
 

jahbrudda

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Citation required.

Nice sig. BTW, the St. Roch was specially ice reinforced.

Do you still not know what multiyear ice is?
Still waiting on that citation that "2009 was the first year ever that the northwest passage remained navigable year round."

Quit deflecting and post it.
 

abandonconflict

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Still waiting on that citation that "2009 was the first year ever that the northwest passage remained navigable year round."

Quit deflecting and post it.
You're so fucking dumb it is palpable. It is not the sort of claim which can be or requires citation. Companies and nations plan their travels and shipping and the lane is open. They don't have to ask scientists if it ok.
 

jahbrudda

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You're so fucking dumb it is palpable. It is not the sort of claim which can be or requires citation. Companies and nations plan their travels and shipping and the lane is open. They don't have to ask scientists if it ok.
I call BS, you said "2009 was the first year ever that the northwest passage remained navigable year round."

You found this cockamamy claim somewhere or you wouldn't have made the claim.
I've searched my ass off and can't find one story about the Northwest Passage be open all year round.
I've heard predictions about it, but we all know what happens when global warming alarmists make prediction.

If you can't back up your claim, just admit it.
You call me dumb for something you said, that can't be substantiated. LOL
 

jahbrudda

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I called you dumb for not knowing how citation works. It is kind of like how you keep citing NASA and started a thread with a claim by a news anchor as if he had any authority to argue about science.
Why do you keep dodging, I've asked several times for your citation.

I cited NASA because UB asked for it, so I gave it, what about yours.

I ask again, where is your proof that "2009 was the first year ever that the northwest passage remained navigable year round."

All we see is deflection and excuses, why don't you admit you're talking out your ass and can't back it up.
I think it's pretty apparent by now that this is the case.
 
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