UncleBuck
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i was more referring to his popularity, as i alluded tto earlier, but feel free to indulge your homicidal racism.
Who Is The Worst U.S. President Ever?
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Harrekin
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As I've said before, I dislike Obama because he's inept and an arrogant liar.
Keep pointing out that he's black all the while calling other people racist.
The butthurt is amazing from the lefties today, like manna from heaven.
abandonconflict
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Obama is to the right of most republican presidents.
AlecTheGardener
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UncleBuck
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yeah, he's so inept that he only got elected to the president of the united states twice in consecutive landslides while ushering in a supermajority.
how fucking inept.
i just know you did everything you could to not call him uppity you racist piece of shit.
abandonconflict
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Makes me wonder why the pubs hate him so much. Could it actually be racism?Darn close:
You mean shot in the head? That's low even for someone of your lowlife.
AlecTheGardener
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You should prepare instead of slinging mud, your argument I mean, unless of course you just wanted to be rude.
That's cool too though.
SmokeyDan
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Bush had similar political accomplishments that you are applauding Obama for, and using as points as to why he isn't inept.
UncleBuck
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bush never won in a landlside or achieved a supermajority.
he had to have his daddy's own supreme court pick hand him the first election.
SmokeyDan
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Bush won the 2004 election with more votes than any candidate had ever received.
It wasn't an electoral win as big as Obama's, but it was pretty close in terms of numbers of votes.
abandonconflict
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Bush didn't win in 2000.
UncleBuck
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worthless measure is worthless. population keeps going up so of course each candidate gets more votes than the ones 20 years ago did.
bush's margin was 500 votes in florida in 2000 and 50,000 votes in ohio the second time.
obama collected two landslide victories and brought everyone down ticket with him, especially in 2008.
suck it.
SmokeyDan
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In 08 obama accomplished something bush didn't, I'll give you that.
But he was running against Sara Palin.
Anyway, in 2012, it wasn't a landslide the same way. In the electoral college it was. But much closer in total votes.
UncleBuck
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again, total votes is a worthless metric. it's not decided by popular vote.
SmokeyDan
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No, you're right, it isn't decided by popular vote. ..
But ill give you this....
Some one who you usually agree with is saying Bush didn't win in 2000, most likely because he lost the popular vote to Gore.
It is like a football game, one where your team gains more total yards, and more first downs than your opponent.
But you ended up settling for a few field goals, and your opponent scored TD's every time, and you lose despite several metrics point your way.
An electoral blowout, does not a blow out make. In my mind. And apparently not in many who are on your side, because it wasn't too long ago getting rid of the electoral college was a major issue on your side.
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UncleBuck
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cool assumption. he might have been referring to the disparities in recounts depending on who they were done by.
but the dude who W's dad put on the supreme court broke it for bush, so he was awarded the presidency. no way to know who really "won" when it is that close.
after all, there might be massive voter fraud that was never detected!
lullerskates.
i've never argued for getting rid of the electoral college, bignbushy.
and the only kind of landslide in american politics is an electoral landslide.
get ready for texas to become a swing state in 12-20 more years, and then things will get interesting.
Padawanbater2
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What makes you say that? Immigration?
SmokeyDan
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Texas will not be a swing state in 20 years, if anything it might get closer. But it will stay red.
Suppose it does turn blue, though, what then?
Those who hold political power in texas are mostly red state people, folks who are not liberal by any measure.
Even if Texas turns blue, it wouldn't be long until some other state(s) started to turn red. Perhaps Wisconsin, who just elected a republican governor for the 3rd time in 4 years.
The tents the parties have are fluid over time.
A century ago the Democrats and Republicans had different demographics than they do today.
Each party has taken turns at the top, but the Democrats do have a bigger tent.
Padawanbater2
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If Texas went blue it would be a disaster for the republican party, they would need virtually every other state to make up the difference, and in 12-20 years that '38' could very well be '45-50' electoral votes