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Paperroller24

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Just a guess: I think this guy will give you affiliate links to products on ebay / amazon to earn a commission from your purchases while trying to disguise the heist by providing "consultation".
Yeah that's exactly what I do. Your assumption must get you far in life.
 

Ninjabowler

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Yeah I probably will, just to tell people like you that I did such a thing. Seriously? Quite being a dick!
I wasnt being a dick. I was serious. I was busting your balls at first but i was being serious. I figured youd built a two stage door in the past so i was asking if you knew about them. Have you ever poured concrete into a pony wall with a drain to waste system built to go through the wall? Cause thats my next project and i cant figure out how to get the damn boards to hold the concrete in without having to hilti gun them to the existing wall.
 

m4s73r

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Drill small holes on both sides of the form and use baling wire to tie the forums together. When you pour your concrete the wire will hold the forms to prevent blow outs.
 

Cold$moke

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Instead of wire wich can wiggle just cut wood spacer blocks at the desired wall thickness

use a pvc pipe that's bigger then the tube or pipe you intend on using
this creates a passage through the wall for future plumbing

just make sure you seal any gaps before you pour
and make sure everything is exactly like you want it BEFORE you mix your crete
hope this helps
 

Cold$moke

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If you didnt know the pipe is inserted between or through the boards and sealed
this way when you done you got a nice clean wall with a professional looking pvc pass through
 

m4s73r

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A buddy of mine did something kinda the same. He got his hands on some of those styrofoam forms. Said it was easy to cut the forms and fit his plumbing through them. Insulated and it looked good.
 

Ninjabowler

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Drill small holes on both sides of the form and use baling wire to tie the forums together. When you pour your concrete the wire will hold the forms to prevent blow outs.
Fucking perfect idea. Thanks man. I was worried id split the foundation with the nailer.
 

Cold$moke

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Just make sure that bailing wire is tight and not on the verg of snapping before you pour

not saying it wont work
but why risk having the form shift during the pour?
mabey I dont get it lol
let us know how it turns out
 

m4s73r

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Fucking perfect idea. Thanks man. I was worried id split the foundation with the nailer.
Ok so im going on a limb here, your pouring a retaining wall on top of prexsisting concrete? Do you have the forms secured to the concrete pad? if not, then your forms will float and the concrete will just run out the bottom. The bailing wire is only to keep the forms from flexing and blowing out. I wouldnt use nails for forms. nails are for securing not for holding weight. secure the forms with either sleeve or strike anchors. 3/8" for a 2 ft retaining wall every 2 feet should do it.
 

m4s73r

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ok so i do need to add. You CAN pour on top with out securing. But its a pita. first you have to set your forms up, then you have to fill just enough concrete in to create a lip. Now the concrete will have to be dry and thick. Almost like mortar. Then you let that set for 48 hours. then you come back in and fill half your wall and let it set. then finish it off, let it set for 72 hours and you can remove the forms.
 

Cold$moke

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Um not saying your wrong but you dont pour multiples like that or the wall will certainly crack just my and every jobsite ive worked.ons opinion lol but concrete is not my trade so I could be wrong
 

m4s73r

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well yeah it will, but if you dont want to drilll holes into your concrete pad its about the only way to do it. I am going to assume that were putting rebar every 18 inches or so yes? But yes, it will crack at every level, but if you have rebar in it, and your not holding any weight, who cares.
 

Ninjabowler

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Ok so im going on a limb here, your pouring a retaining wall on top of prexsisting concrete? Do you have the forms secured to the concrete pad? if not, then your forms will float and the concrete will just run out the bottom. The bailing wire is only to keep the forms from flexing and blowing out. I wouldnt use nails for forms. nails are for securing not for holding weight. secure the forms with either sleeve or strike anchors. 3/8" for a 2 ft retaining wall every 2 feet should do it.
Theres a pad down. And a two foot concrete pony wall on the pad with framed walls on top. But for some reason theres a gap in the pony wall almost like a window should be there but on the ground. The framed wall sitting on top of the pony wall runs over the gap and its an exterior wall and its an access point if you were to crawl through the hole. But thanks to you guys itll be fixed tomorrow. ;)
 

m4s73r

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psh, insulation , and board that shit up. I wouldnt close a hole like that. could turn that into a ehaust/intake fan port, doggy door, hooker door, so many options lol
 

Cold$moke

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It doesnt matter but if I had to look at the cracks all the time id kick myself just a personal thing I guess

what ever works at the end of the day
 

Cold$moke

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Hey ninja that was probably a door way if it.went to the floor
I wolud also just leave it there
much easier to modify wood plus much easier to make look like it wasnt there if you move or sell the place
 
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