Yodaweed
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That's not too bad recreational is really pricey here too like 55 and eighth plus 35% tax.
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TonightYou
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$25 before or after tax? After tax wouldn't be terrible, still to high once you've grown your own.
And I can certainly agree about growing better than what's in most shops.
st0wandgrow
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Exactly. And breeders know that's why we justify the prices.
This is true, BUT it still doesn't take away from the fact that a pollinated female will easily produce 5,000+ seeds. At $10 a pop that's $50,000 from ONE plant. Considering that these plants are not worked, and we're buying F1 hybrids it seems to me that these breeders are fleecing the consumer.
How much does it really cost to pollinate a plant? Quite the racket they have going on IMO
TonightYou
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Oh I agree with you but let's think about it for a second. A breeder somewhere unless they are in Spain or another legal area, has to send seeds that may get intercepted to a distributor.
The middleman/seedbank has to get their cut of the action which I'm guessing is at least 100% markup, perhaps less though. Then they need to ship these beans mostly to illegal countries. Which results in beans being snagged by authorities. I'd be interested to know how many reshipmemts there are as well as how many people get insurance.
Illegality is the primary cost inflator.
st0wandgrow
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True, but now we see places like NGR, California seed bank, Great Lakes genetics, dispensaries, etc all carrying American breeders. I don't see any big price breaks from these domestic seed banks where the threat of seized shipments doesn't exist.
So even factoring in a 100% mark up, they're still pulling in a minimum of $25,000 per plant.
I could see that kind of money being justified if there were years of working a line to F5 or more, but there isn't. These guys release more flavors in a year than Baskin Robbins.
TonightYou
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Technically they are breaking the law sending beans through the mail. It's a small risk, but one that could have their freedom taken away.
I agree the prices are high. In a legal landscape I'd expect them to me much more lower.
st0wandgrow
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It'll be interesting to see how things change. Gen is right in saying that if you find a winner $100 is WELL worth the price x10. The problem is that I haven't found too many winners. Maybe my standards are too high??
I dunno. It's like a fucking disease though. As much as I like to bitch about it, I'm the first one standing in line for a good promo.
genuity
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All of what's been said sounds very true....
But how big is the one plant that is making seeds? & with today's market we see multiple bean drops by any said breeder,so that would mean at least 1-3 males may be used.
On let say 6 females,that's a lot of space/light..everything must be separate I would think?
But how big is the one plant that is making seeds? & with today's market we see multiple bean drops by any said breeder,so that would mean at least 1-3 males may be used.
On let say 6 females,that's a lot of space/light..everything must be separate I would think?
genuity
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All day.It'll be interesting to see how things change. Gen is right in saying that if you find a winner $100 is WELL worth the price x10. The problem is that I haven't found too many winners. Maybe my standards are too high??
I dunno. It's like a fucking disease though. As much as I like to bitch about it, I'm the first one standing in line for a good promo.
I have found things I like to keep around for a run or 2..but as far as a true,I don't want to lose this cut,I'd do just about anything to keep this cut<<< I have not found that yet.
Amos Otis
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These are all good points. I tossed some Phantom Cookies pollen on clone donors of PC, solos stash, chuckys bride, and fat grape cheese, and have probably 30 viable beans of each. That I'll likely never use, either, but if I'd made hundreds of each, that's 4 strains built off a Phantom Cookies male.
Lots of companies make tons of cash selling much inferior products, I'm sure. However, I don't begrudge any se-ed seller his right to set his/her own prices. I probably priced my Fast Franklins too high, and still have the entire inventory.
st0wandgrow
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I think risk is the biggest factor in determining price. I can't see over head being all that much. They don't have to carry much of a staff considering that almost all of the testing is done by growers that aren't on their payroll.
Maybe I'm missing some expenses, or maybe they don't necessarily receive 50% of what the pack is sold for. Seeing how Sannies operates, selling packs for $28 of lines that are typically worked, it makes me a little skeptical
greenghost420
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in the end you cant knock the hustle, spend ur money wisely
rory420420
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jo-lean..
sorry bout the crappy pics..i was in a hurry today
sorry bout the crappy pics..i was in a hurry today
Yodaweed
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After tax pretty good price , its my primary caregiver and they have some very good buds https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/altitude-organic-medicine?c=main here's their weedmaps
TonightYou
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Not bad at all then. Basically the same prices I charge if I'm not handing it out.
Cold$moke
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Cant speak for every one else but I been ilegal for a good bit lol just sayin
TonightYou
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Illegal just means higher value due to risk. I prefer to eliminate risks where I can hence why I'm legal
TonightYou
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Ya know what I meant
It is very unlikely to be popped by feds compared to the state. Feds don't waste resources on small fry, unless they really want to.
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