Obama is going to give amnesty next week

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Canna Sylvan said:
The 13th Amendment. Were you high during US History and Civics classes?
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Yes, of course, but you were not. The EP preceded the 13th Amendment and Lincoln used it to cause the civil war, in order to get the 13th. Had he not, the next President could have rolled back the EP, but the assenation rolled the 13th in.

BTW, the entire integration of the military was done buy EO, not Congress. Congress could not vote to do that today.

It is why we have co-EQUAL branches of govt. The President can do what he can get away with.
That is the job, to lean in.
 
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ChesusRice

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budlover13 said:
Wrong. I live in Central California which has a very high population of both legal and illegal immigrants and what i'm hearing from the legal ones is that they oppose amnesty.
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PPIC Statewide Survey: Californians and Their Government
Mark Baldassare, Dean Bonner, Sonja Petek, and Jui Shrestha
A record-high 65 percent of adults say immigrants are a benefit to the state; there is bipartisan support for immigration reform.
http://www.ppic.org/main/publication.asp?i=1091[/HTML]
 
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ChesusRice

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budlover13 said:
Wrong. I live in Central California which has a very high population of both legal and illegal immigrants and what i'm hearing from the legal ones is that they oppose amnesty.
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A recent national survey conducted by the Pew Research Center found that about 7 in 10 Hispanics say it's important that new immigration legislation pass this year. And a California Field Poll last year found that 9 in 10 California voters support allowing immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally to stay and become citizens if they work, learn English and pay back taxes.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/05/17/republicans-in-california-pushing-for-immigration-reform/
 
jahbrudda

jahbrudda

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ChesusRice said:
It's only unpopular with the white pride set
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Are you getting your data from RIU private messages? :lol:


"Another trouble sign for Obama: The age group most fervently opposed to him on immigration is the young voters he has successfully courted in the past. Fully 80% of those age 18 to 24 want him to work with Congress on reform, and just 15% side with Obama’s plan to bypass Congress if they fail to act…

When asked more specifically about an executive order to “slow deportation of undocumented immigrants by providing them with legal protection and work permits,” 63% of all those polled say they oppose Obama’s issuing such an order, with a majority of Republicans and independents strongly opposed. Just 34% of the public backs that move, though that includes 60% of Democrats."
 
budlover13

budlover13

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ChesusRice said:
A recent national survey conducted by the Pew Research Center found that about 7 in 10 Hispanics say it's important that new immigration legislation pass this year. And a California Field Poll last year found that 9 in 10 California voters support allowing immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally to stay and become citizens if they work, learn English and pay back taxes.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/05/17/republicans-in-california-pushing-for-immigration-reform/
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That's a BIG if lol. And that's a major reason many I talk to are against amnesty. They're all for immigration reform, but not amnesty.

Btw, Central California cannot be represented by polls including LA and SF.
 
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ChesusRice

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budlover13 said:
That's a BIG if lol. And that's a major reason many I talk to are against amnesty. They're all for immigration reform, but not amnesty.

Btw, Central California cannot be represented by polls including LA and SF.
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Acordding to those against immigration reform
It is amnesty
 
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ChesusRice

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budlover13 said:
Creating an easier path to immigration is the reform that I have been seeing be supported. But not amnesty.
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In addition, 74 percent favor finding a way for the 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country to remain -- and eventually become citizens -- if they meet certain requirements, such as paying back taxes, learning English and passing a background check.
Republicans (90 percent), people over the age of 65 (87 percent) and whites (83 percent) are among the groups most likely to favor additional border security.
Democrats (82 percent), people under age 30 (81 percent) and non-whites (79 percent) are among those most likely to support a path to citizenship.
Most people -- 76 percent -- think it’s important to pass major immigration reform legislation this year (44 percent say it is “very” important and 32 percent say “somewhat” important).
Large majorities of Democrats (81 percent), independents (74 percent) and Republicans (73 percent), as well as white (74 percent) and non-white voters (79 percent) want immigration reform to happen.
The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 1,019 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 9 to June 11. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

I could post polls all day Bud
 
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ChesusRice

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Washington (CNN) - Americans overwhelmingly favor a bill that would give most undocumented immigrants a pathway towards citizenship, according to a new national poll.
And a CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that a majority of the public says that the government's main focus should be legalizing the status of the undocumented rather than border security.

The poll was released Thursday, the same day that House Speaker John Boehner signaled any action on immigration is unlikely this year because House Republicans don't trust President Barack Obama on the issue.
 
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ChesusRice

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American voters are united in their 64 - 31 percent support of the immigration reform act recently passed in the U.S. Senate. Support is strong among every partisan, gender, racial, religious, income and age group.
"The public supports the immigration bill 2-1 and shows unusual agreement given the divisions in the country on many other issues," said Brown. "It seems the only group divided on this issue is Congress."
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1931
 
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