All Per Plus for Spider Mites?
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Dr. Who
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It is an essential oil (at least that's what they imply). So, it must kill by smothering them, and maybe some of what's "in" it. Right?
Now, your putting an "oil" on your plant. They make claims that I simply don't agree with.
Oil DOES leave a "residue".
If this 'essential" oil contains Thyme, Rosemary or another "herbal". It WILL leave a smell or "flavor". No matter how small, it will be there.
What if you "miss" a few or a few eggs? They will come back! They CAN build a tolerance to it.
Read up on FORBID 4F. Kills all stages of the mites growth, even the eggs! NOT systemic (it does not travel through out the plant). Does NOT lead to a "tolerance" problem.
Simple light misting on the leaf surfaces do the job.
Small, affordable amounts available on Ebay..
I know, not listed as organic.
I grow organic for 85+% of my grows. Sometimes you just have to pull up your pants, take a deep breath, and do what you must to END an infestation.
The choice is yours. Fight battle after battle,,,,,or end the war in one attack.
The choice is yours!
Good luck
Doc.
Now, your putting an "oil" on your plant. They make claims that I simply don't agree with.
Oil DOES leave a "residue".
If this 'essential" oil contains Thyme, Rosemary or another "herbal". It WILL leave a smell or "flavor". No matter how small, it will be there.
What if you "miss" a few or a few eggs? They will come back! They CAN build a tolerance to it.
Read up on FORBID 4F. Kills all stages of the mites growth, even the eggs! NOT systemic (it does not travel through out the plant). Does NOT lead to a "tolerance" problem.
Simple light misting on the leaf surfaces do the job.
Small, affordable amounts available on Ebay..
I know, not listed as organic.
I grow organic for 85+% of my grows. Sometimes you just have to pull up your pants, take a deep breath, and do what you must to END an infestation.
The choice is yours. Fight battle after battle,,,,,or end the war in one attack.
The choice is yours!
Good luck
Doc.
BarnBuster
Virtually Unknown Member
I agree with Doc, probably using rosemary oil (note the lack of a MSDS sheet) and WAY overpriced. Another company cashing in on the MJ industry.
Michiganja Meduana
Active Member
Sounded like snake oil to me. Thats why I came here. Thank you so much. I wish most replies were as worthwhile.
Michiganja Meduana
Active Member
200$ is out of the question however..
Michiganja Meduana
Active Member
Even if it works, it's a principle issue.I just cant give someone 200$ for 8 ounces of some fluid. Too much profit.
Dr. Who
Well-Known Member
Look again sir, AFFORDABLE AMOUNTS!
Sometimes you must read past the first thing on the list.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SALE-FREE-1-2-oz-Forbid-4F-miticide-Insecticide-ovacide-Mites-agave-AVID-/261628000868?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cea3e7a64
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-1-4-oz-of-Forbid-4F-miticide-w-purchase-lightning-shipping-agave-AVID-/251704749587?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9ac5ae13
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forbid-4F-Spiromesifen-Miticide-free-1-4-OZ-free-w-purchase-of-2-pipettes-mites-/161478016102?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2598d6fc66
http://www.ebay.com/itm/free-Forbid-4F-Miticide-Insecticide-Spiromesifen-1-2-OZ-free-when-u-buy-pipette-/291282562507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d1cb2dcb
These are ACTIVE auctions right now!
They are the full strength, Bayer product!
The "generic" is only 50% strength!!!!
Buy the real thing!
Sometimes you must read past the first thing on the list.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SALE-FREE-1-2-oz-Forbid-4F-miticide-Insecticide-ovacide-Mites-agave-AVID-/261628000868?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cea3e7a64
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-1-4-oz-of-Forbid-4F-miticide-w-purchase-lightning-shipping-agave-AVID-/251704749587?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9ac5ae13
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forbid-4F-Spiromesifen-Miticide-free-1-4-OZ-free-w-purchase-of-2-pipettes-mites-/161478016102?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2598d6fc66
http://www.ebay.com/itm/free-Forbid-4F-Miticide-Insecticide-Spiromesifen-1-2-OZ-free-when-u-buy-pipette-/291282562507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d1cb2dcb
These are ACTIVE auctions right now!
They are the full strength, Bayer product!
The "generic" is only 50% strength!!!!
Buy the real thing!
SomeGuy
Well-Known Member
I have used pure nutrient products to battle pests. you must use as directed. It does have msds and is a safe option.
http://www.purenutrient.net/
There are three products offered.
green thumb-maintenance veg
pure 3ay - insecticide/fungacide and fioler feed (for more serious problems up to two weeks in flower)
pure kapow - for flowering plants.
I will say this
let it dry completely before turning your lights back on.
http://www.purenutrient.net/
There are three products offered.
green thumb-maintenance veg
pure 3ay - insecticide/fungacide and fioler feed (for more serious problems up to two weeks in flower)
pure kapow - for flowering plants.
I will say this
let it dry completely before turning your lights back on.
churchhaze
Well-Known Member
Is it in veg?
BarnBuster
Virtually Unknown Member
Have used NPS for years as well
TwistItUp
Well-Known Member
Mighty Wash
https://www.monstergardens.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=mighty wash&product_id=1597
Or
Optic Foliar Transport
Combats bugs and mold, and you only have to spray it on top of the leaves.
https://www.monstergardens.com/Optic-Foliar-Transport?filter_name=transport
https://www.monstergardens.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=mighty wash&product_id=1597
Or
Optic Foliar Transport
Combats bugs and mold, and you only have to spray it on top of the leaves.
https://www.monstergardens.com/Optic-Foliar-Transport?filter_name=transport
Michiganja Meduana
Active Member
perpetual
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
been using this new product from old stage called green cleaner, says it kills broadmites and eggs and can be used the day of harvest, it dries very fast and I haven't seen a bug since using it.
https://www.sunlightsupply.com/shop/bytype/New/green-cleaner
https://www.sunlightsupply.com/shop/bytype/New/green-cleaner
crazyhazey
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theres multiple cost effective alternatives for dealing with spidermites and other pests as well, i personally use marigold flowers(for pyrethrum), garlic, and canola oil(works like a glue trap, pests will get stuck and die, ive also heard it works as a good wetting agent), come flowering time i cut it back to garlic and marigold, maybe some canola oil on the fans if the infestation has progressed a lot, most people just use neem though.
rosemary also works great, ive heard chili peppers, mint, neem oil and tobacco added to foliar feed is also effective, companion growing with any of these plants is also said to help, not to mention some even attract beneficial mites.
rosemary also works great, ive heard chili peppers, mint, neem oil and tobacco added to foliar feed is also effective, companion growing with any of these plants is also said to help, not to mention some even attract beneficial mites.
TwistItUp
Well-Known Member
Seeing some of these comments floating around about sticky traps reminds me of Tanglefoot.
I've used Tanglefoot for some OD grows to try and catch some of those pesky caterpillars.
Wonder if it might work verses mites. If anyone does try Tanglefoot make sure to first wrap the stalks/branches with something like masking tape or similar and put the Tanglefoot on the tape, you don't want to put Tanglefoot right on the plant, I've done it and it can kind of liquify the stems. The idea with Tanglefoot to catch caterpillars is that you put the Tanglefoot on several branches and at different points on each branch. That way no matter were the eggs hatch they will be caught there and segregated to that branch.
http://www.amazon.com/Tanglefoot-300000684-Tree-15-Tub/dp/B000BWY3AA
I've used Tanglefoot for some OD grows to try and catch some of those pesky caterpillars.
Wonder if it might work verses mites. If anyone does try Tanglefoot make sure to first wrap the stalks/branches with something like masking tape or similar and put the Tanglefoot on the tape, you don't want to put Tanglefoot right on the plant, I've done it and it can kind of liquify the stems. The idea with Tanglefoot to catch caterpillars is that you put the Tanglefoot on several branches and at different points on each branch. That way no matter were the eggs hatch they will be caught there and segregated to that branch.
http://www.amazon.com/Tanglefoot-300000684-Tree-15-Tub/dp/B000BWY3AA
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
I put that all around the base of my saucers, no bugs crawling from one plant to the other, also, mites climb to the top and jump into fan breeze to get to another plant. don't set fans to help them. any plants coming out that have mites, hang and when mites climb to top, which was the bottom, you burn the fuck out of em.Seeing these comments about sticky traps reminds me of Tanglefoot.
I've used Tanglefoot for some OD grows to try and catch some of those pesky caterpillars.
Wonder if it might work verses mites. If anyone does try Tanglefoot make sure to first wrap stalks/branches with something like masking tape or similar and put the Tanglefoot on the tape, you don't want to put Tanglefoot right on the plant, I've done it and it can kind of liquify the stems. The idea with Tanglefoot to catch caterpillars is that you put the Tanglefoot on several branches and at different points on each branch. That way no matter were the eggs hatch they will be caught there and segregated to that branch,
http://www.amazon.com/Tanglefoot-300000684-Tree-15-Tub/dp/B000BWY3AA
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
not even the toughest mite can build a tolerance to fire,lol
Michiganja Meduana
Active Member
Due to financial reasons, I'll probably have to stick with the habenero spray. I used it and the snake oil yesterday, and I have live mites this morning. I was very thorough, and a little part of my left arm got burnt, so I know it was cooked right. I'll spray them again in a couple days and hope it works.