Waging A Real War On Christmas/Synchronized Hyperspace Event (S.H.E.)

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Ok, so I have mentioned Peptide bonds in this thread before, but I am going to talk about them in the context of Esters.

A Peptide bond is when you take 2 or more Amino Acids and put them together, then Apply heat. An example is Picamilon, where you use GABA and Niacin, those 2 Amino Acids together in water, then boiled, will create Picamilon. If you take normal GABA most of it breaks down in your stomach and doesn't ever make it to your brain. Picamilon allows the GABA molecule to be protected in the stomach and make it all the way to the brain. This allows is to be MUCH more effective than regular GABA, and the Niacin goes in to the brain to promote blood flow and helps with Migranes.

So that is a peptide bond, it is simply made by boiling 2 amino acids together, and it changes the ability of the different Amino Acids that it started with.

The Ester mentioned before, 2-AG, is also formed by boiling, but instead of 2 Amino Acids, you boil an Alcohol structure with a Carboxylic Acid structure.

Knowing how to make both Esters and Peptide bonds, that gives us something else. We could do something like boil GABA and Niacin together, then boil the resulting Picamilon in Glycerine. This would create a Picamilon Ester.

Also, we could do something like boil Arachidonic acid in Glycerine, then taking the resulting 2-AG and boil that with Niacin. Possibly creating a structure that has the ability to work when eaten in pill form, instead of only being able to be injected like 2-AG.

There are also other Peptide Bonds like Glutamate Salts, and other Amino Acids like Glycine and 5-HTP could be used to create Peptide bonds that hit different receptors in the brain. Then there are things like "Opiod Food Peptides" and "Opioid Peptides" in general. These are not illegal because they are not similar in structure to morphine, but they go to the same places in the brain as morphine. Examples of food that contain these are Milk & Spinach.

I see no reason why dispensaries and medical Marijuana users should not be working to make their medicine as good as it possibly can be. So, I am going to make a list of things that every Dispensary or Marijuana Lab should have eventually, so that we can start making some awesome discoveries (These things can also be used to invent new smells)

d-Lemonene
Glycerol/Glycerine
Vanillin
GABA
L-Tryptophan
Ethanol/Pure Drinking Alcohol
Methanol
L-Lysine
Glutamine
Niacin
Absorbic Acid/Vitamin C
Tartaric Acid
Malic Acid
Edible Lime/Calcium Hydroxide
Thiamine
Hydrogen Peroxide
Potassium Hydroxide
b-Alanine
L-Proline
Activated Charcoal
Isopropyl Alcohol
Benzoic Acid
Baking Soda
Socium Chloride/Table Sale
Sodium Benzoate
Mineral Oil
Citric Acid
5-HTP
L-Theanine

 

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"Opiod Peptides": when most people think of Opiates, they think of Heroine and Morphine and Oxycontin and Vicodin, but that is not a good representation of Opiates over all. For example, Pepperment contains Menthol, and Menthol is a Kappa Opiod Receptor Agonist, meaning, it attaches to your Opiate receptors. So if you know what the flavor "Peppermint" is, you have done an Opiate.

And as mentioned before, Spinach and Milk both contain Opiod peptides. Opiod Peptides can also be found in the brain and spine of cows, as well as the milk of cows and humans. Examples are Rubiscolin, Casein and Casomorphin. Just like Cannabinoids, Opiate Peptides can have Amino Acids added to them, or be made into their Ester forms.

Here are some plants that contain Opiates that are not illegal.

Red Clover
Ugni Molinae
Casearia Sylvestris
Pachyptera Hymenaea
Prickly Poppy
Adrenorphin (Cow Brain)
Deltorphin (Waxy Leaf Frog)
Dermorphin (Waxy Leaf Frog)
Chaste Tree
Black Kohosh
Laurelia Novae-Zelandiae
Salvia Leriifolia
Salvia Divinorum (Illegal in some places, also very active on other receptors)
Tabernaemontana Pachysiphon
Irvingia Gabonesis
Myrrh
Dalea Purpurea
Nigella Sativa Seed
Sophora Subprostata
Picralima Nitida
Chocolate (Reports say that Chocolate makes other Opiods stronger)
Yellow Horned Poppy
Crydalis Yanhusuo
Spinorphin (Cow Spine)
D-Phenylalanine (Enkephalinas Inhibitor)
Oriental Poppy
Marijuana (CBD is an Opiod)

Each one of these has the potential to create an entire new class of Opiods. And they are not illegal. Only Opiods that have structures similar to Schedule I Opiods are illegal. These are all just Painkillers and Feel Good Medicine, and could create entire new things that the world has never seen before. I see no reason that these couldn't be normal over the counter, there are already Opiod Peptides that can be bought over the counter for migranes. And I am not suggesting to this for anyone for abuse. Again, I want to point out that Peppermint and other things that you probably have in your house are on the list, they are just not the same as Morphine or Hydrocodone or Oxycontin, and none of them need to be. This is how Bayer and Tylenol started as companies, they just synthesized some stuff and gave it out as supplements and remedies for headaches and stuff.

d-Lemonene
Glycerol/Glycerine
Vanillin
GABA
L-Tryptophan
Ethanol/Pure Drinking Alcohol
Methanol
L-Lysine
Glutamine
Niacin
Absorbic Acid/Vitamin C
Tartaric Acid
Malic Acid
Edible Lime/Calcium Hydroxide
Thiamine
Hydrogen Peroxide
Potassium Hydroxide
b-Alanine
L-Proline
Activated Charcoal
Isopropyl Alcohol
Benzoic Acid
Baking Soda
Socium Chloride/Table Sale
Sodium Benzoate
Mineral Oil
Citric Acid
5-HTP
L-Theanine

 

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Here are some other things that have mental effects:

Coffee & Cuban Coffee, in Cuba they boil their coffee down REALLY small amount, so it's a lot stronger. Like if you made a pot of coffee with a coffee machine, then put it in a petal pot on the stove and boiled the pot down to one shot glass.

Guarana, Contains Caffeine and Theobromine. So has the effects of Coffee and Chocolate.

Guyusa, Kinda of like Tea, but it is used in place of Coffee in some places. And is stronger than Tea.

Yerba Mate, Kinda of like Tea, but it is used in place of Coffee in some places. And is stronger than Tea.

Oilahuasca: Oilahuasca is using simple things like Cinnamon/Clove Tea to turn off your P450 Enzymes, then taking something like Basil Extract, to achieve effects like ecstasy. It is similar to how Ayahuasca works.

Enchymoma: A word from the 1800s, it means "An Elixir Made in the Stomache"

Hotentot Tea: A Dream Brew including Imphepho flowers and a few other things, meant to promote dreaming.

Soma: An Ancient Vedic Brew, some Historians believe it is Opium Poppy, some Historians believe it is Amanita Muscaria, some Historians believe it is a brew Similar to Ayahuasca.

Ambrosia: An ancient Greek brew, possibly containing Opium, but definitely containing some kind of Psychoactive plant.

White Lotus Wine: The Ancient Egyptians used to let their Wine soak up the stuff inside Lotus before drinking it, so that they had a Lotus Tea/Wine. White lotus contains a compound that attaches to dopamine receptors.

Kratom: Has been made into tea by Buddhists for hundreds if not thousands of years. Contains Opiates that are not illegal, because they are not the same as the Opiates in Opium. And they may not show up on drug tests, I would double check though.

Lemon Grass: Contains Myrcene which can also be found in Hops/Beer. Has a slight Opiod Analgesic effect.

Black Cohosh: Attaches to 5HT serotonin receptors, can be made into a Tea or Capsule.

Mucuna Seed/Velvet Bean: Contains L-DOPA and Tryptamines, people use it as a Mood Enhancer.

Catnip: Can be made into a tea and drank by humans for light sedative effect, about 80% of cats are effected by it.

Valerian Root: Can effect cats similar to Catnip. Causes sedative effects in humans.

Silver Vine: Can effect cats similar to Catnip. Probably has effects for humans.

Bog Bean Leaves: Can effect cats similar to Catnip, used by humans in place of coffee.

Dittany of Crete: A Cooking Spice grown in Europe, this plant does not drop seeds and can only be cultivated by growing a clone, and it has been passed down this way for a LONG time. It has some sedative effects from what I have read, but I have not tried it.

Voaconga Africana: Contains things similar to Ibogaine and could be used for drug treatment.

Inebriating Mint: Used around Turkey, made like Tea, has a sedative effect.

Indian Warrior: A Natural Sedative/Tranquilizer

Mulungu: Said to be "Nature's Valium" by some people.

Wild Dagga: Contains Leourine, similar to Cannabis but not the same. Can be smoked or made into a tea.

Clip Dagga: Just like Wild Dagga

Motherwort/Siberian Motherwort: Contains the same thing as Wild Dagg and Clip Dagga.

Virola Elongota: Used by people in the Amazon as an entheogen and arrow poison.

Desfontainia: Known as "Chilean Holly", used as a Hallucinogen by native people.

Typha Capensis: Root Mass used as Entheogen

Maconha Brava: Used as an Entheogen in some places.

Black Horehound: Contains Diterpenes and is said to have some entheogen effects.

Stone Root: Has effects on the central nervous system and other parts of the body.

Horny Goat Weed: Used as a Sexual Stimulant for Men

Yohimbe: Used as a Sexual Stimulant for Men and Women

Belladonna Eye Drops: Used to make your eyes Dilated

Passion Flower: MAOI/Antidepressant

Kanna: SSRI/Antidepressant

Aconite aka Monks Hood aka Wolf's Bane. It has been used to kill wolves and was said to turn people in to werewolves. It is poison and can kill someone who eats to much, some people smoke it though.

Acacia is known as "Waddle" in Australia and has species all over the world, the bark contains DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and other Tryptamines.

Acorus Calamus aka Sweet Flag. Can cause hallucinations. It is used in medicine and food.

Amanita Muscaria aka Fly Agaric. Hallucinogenic and possibly Narcotic. You have probably seen them with toads on them, or gnomes under them, or in Alice in Wonderland.

Some species of Ants have been used to achieve ritual hallucinations. Some ants contain hallucinogens you can use by swallowing them.

Ayahuasca is a mixture of 2 things. Any plant containing MAOIs mixed with any plant containing DMT, then drank together.

Belladona seeds are poisonous and have been used to achieve hallucinations for a long time. They say that the reason "witches fly on broom sticks" is because they would use broom sticks to put the Belladona seed in a... weird place. Then they would "Fly".

Betel leaf is chewed by about 1/10th of the world's population as a mild stimulant similar to cigarettes.

Brugmansia contains Scopolamine which can cause vivid hallucinations via making you extremely delirious. It is not a hallucinogen, it is a delliriant and a poison that can kill you.

caesalpinia sepiaria is said to cause hallucinations.

Camellia Sinensis aka Tea Leaves, contains both Caffeine and L-Theanine, which together work differently than either of them would alone.

Cannabis aka Marijuana aka Pot also Hash contains THC and other Cannabinoids.

 

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Chocolate contains Theobromine.

Cantharides aka Spanish Fly. An Aphrodisiac made from the wings of a beetle. Supposedly Sudanese people grind up dung beetles and drink them with water, no known reason for this yet though.

Coca plants contain cocaine and other things. It used to be the main ingredient of Coca-Cola.

Coffee contains Caffeine.

Datura is just like Brugmansia.

Duboisia Hopwoodii aka Pituri grows in Australia and has nicotine and a stronger (more poisonous) relative of nicotine in it.

Ephedra aka Mormon Tea contains Ephedrine, a stimulant which has been used to treat asthma.

Fugu aka Puffer fish. It's liver contains a nuerotoxin that kills most people, some people survive with no vital signs, then wake back up after 3 days. It is a delicacy in Japan because you have to trust the chef to not kill you, even on accident.

Guarana contains both Theobromine and Caffeine.

Heimia Salicifolia aka "Sun Opener" has the ability to turn your vision yellow when you drink it in a tea.

Henbane is poisonous and some people smoke it.

Iboga contains Ibogaine which has in recent times been used to cure Heroine and other opiate addictions. It could also be useful for cigarette smokers and methamphetamine users.

Inebriating Mint is used as a sedative and light hallucinogen in Turkey and a few other places.

Kava Kava has the same descriptive qualities as marijuana (Sedative/Euphoriant), but it is not the same when you take it, they are different. Mixing them together gives them Synergy though.Kava will make your moth numb and does not taste awesome.

Kratom is a sedative or a stimulant depending how much you take, and people chew it or make it into a tea.

lycopodium complanatum has been used by natives as a stimulant.

lycopodium selago causes a "mild narcotic hypnosis" at low doses and coma at high doses.

Mandrake root is poisonous and has historically been used in tons of potions and stuff. It was the plant that had a crying baby as a root in Harry Potter. The roots actually do look like people sometimes and historically they have been involved in all kinds of crazy stuff.

Morning Glory Seeds contain LSA which is a cousin of LSD.

Myelobia Smerintha Moths are said to be able to give you dreams when eaten, and the Aztecs claimed a moth as their underworld God, so someone should see what is in those ones.

the Nightmare fish is known to cause terrible nightmares. It could be kyphosus vaigiensis or kyphosus fuseus.

Osteophloeum Platyspermum is used in Ecuador for it's hallucinogenic properties.

Peyote is known to contain Mescaline.

Psilosybe mushrooms (usually Psilosybe Cubensis) are known as "Magic Mushrooms" commonly.

Puffballs are the mushrooms genuses: Lycoperdon, Bovista and Calvatia and have been known to cause Auditory Hallucinations.

Qat aka Khat is eaten in the middle east, it is used commonly like coffee, but is more like Amphetamine.

San Pedro is similar to Peyote.

Scirpus has traditionally been used as a Hallucinogen in Mexico, but it's effects have not been studied.

Scotch Broom supposedly has hallucinogenic seeds, and leaves that when smoked, make colors seem more vibrant.

Syrian Rue contains MAOIs which shut off parts of your immune system, allowing certain plants to take stronger effect (ex: used in Ayahuasca to make DMT orally effective) but it will also make Chocolate, Alcohol and Cheese poisonous during the duration of its effect on you because you can not break them down properly. This is called the "Cheese Syndrome" or "Cheese Effect"

Tree Tobacco is much like Tobacco but contains nicotine and other things, and it grows in South America.

Wild Lettuce (all lettuce actually, but this one has the most) contains opiates, not the same at the opiates in opium, but they hit the same receptors in the brain. It used to be called "Poor man's opium", and it probably grows in your yard.

Virola is known to contain DMT and other things.

Yohimbe bark is used as an Aphrodisiac and Stimulant for both men and women.

Yopo contains 5-HO-DMT which is mixed with Edible Lime and blown into people's noses in south America.

Uziza: Contains Caryophyllene, which is also in Cannabis and works similar to Cannabinoids.

Syrian Oregano & Thyme: Both of these contain Thymol, which is related to Propofol, which is the stuff that Michael Jackson was using to sleep. Thymol does not act like Propofol only because it is broken down in the stomach and liver.

Betel Leaf and Nut: Contains Chavicol, the leaves and nut are chewed like tobacco all over the world, and drops of extract can be added to a cigarette or joint for a stimulant effect.

Dragon's Head (Dracocephelums): Sedative Effect

Wool Grass: Root mass is used as an Entheogen

Sun Opener: Used as part of a Mixture in Mexico by Natives. It has effects of its own, but they are hard to pin point. Maybe a skeletal muscle relaxant, it has a weird hangover.

Coleus: Used by the same tribe that invented Salvia, it is a Sedative but has not been studied much.

Hops: Contain Myrcene, which works as a light Opiod Analgesic.

Indian Bay Leaves: Contains Caryophyllene

Uncaria Rhynchophylla: Has effects on the NMDA receptor.

Ylang Ylang: Contains Caryophyllene and other Terpenes.

Tecoma Stans: Works in some cats like Catnip. Could have effects in humans.

Tartarian Honey Suckle Bark: Works like Catnip in some cats. Could have effects in humans.

Cigarette Tobacco/Nicotiana Tobaccum: Used for dreaming by Native Americans, not used to Relax or Stimulate.

Jasmine Tobacco: A Species of Tobacco whose flowers smell like Jasmine

Bitter Calea: Used to promote dreaming.

Graviola: 5HT1a Agonist

Senegalia greggii: Native to Texas to California and in Sonora Mexico, the extract has stimulant effects

 

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silver vine -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinidia_polygama


Silver vine has been used for centuries in Asia as a preventative health aid and is still commonly used as an alternative therapy for hypertension, arthritic pain,[4] and was investigated as treatment for cancer.[3] Researchers have claimed, "Silver vine should find applications in various fields of foods and medicals and will be increasingly regarded as a health-promoting food".[10]

Silver vine leaves also have a high content of flavonoids, terpenoids, saponins,[6] and beta-carotene.[11] This plant is also rich in alkaloids.[6] Its vitamin C content is 10 times higher than that of green tea, and was "much higher than those of fruit species such as garden strawberry, kiwi berry, haskap [berry], blueberry, and lemon".[10] Silver vine also has as much vitamin E as found in soybeans.

The health benefits of silver vine are not limited to its natural vitamins and minerals. It may be an effective treatment for hyperlipidemia,[6] and may have viability as an anticancer drug. When the leaf powder was given orally, it inhibited the spread of cancer in small animals and reduced tumor weight [12] by more than 72% after day 32. Further, a lemon juice extract powder of silver vine tea showed hepatoprotection in rats which is attributed to antioxidant and free radical-scavenging properties.[5]

The anti-inflammatory properties of this plant, used in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis and to alleviate arthritis pain, were put to the test against inflammation in the lungs. Fruit extract from the plant had deep inhibitory effects on airway inflammation caused by allergic inflammation and asthma when combined with cyclosporine A.[13]

 

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silver vine -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinidia_polygama


Silver vine has been used for centuries in Asia as a preventative health aid and is still commonly used as an alternative therapy for hypertension, arthritic pain,[4] and was investigated as treatment for cancer.[3] Researchers have claimed, "Silver vine should find applications in various fields of foods and medicals and will be increasingly regarded as a health-promoting food".[10]

Silver vine leaves also have a high content of flavonoids, terpenoids, saponins,[6] and beta-carotene.[11] This plant is also rich in alkaloids.[6] Its vitamin C content is 10 times higher than that of green tea, and was "much higher than those of fruit species such as garden strawberry, kiwi berry, haskap [berry], blueberry, and lemon".[10] Silver vine also has as much vitamin E as found in soybeans.

The health benefits of silver vine are not limited to its natural vitamins and minerals. It may be an effective treatment for hyperlipidemia,[6] and may have viability as an anticancer drug. When the leaf powder was given orally, it inhibited the spread of cancer in small animals and reduced tumor weight [12] by more than 72% after day 32. Further, a lemon juice extract powder of silver vine tea showed hepatoprotection in rats which is attributed to antioxidant and free radical-scavenging properties.[5]

The anti-inflammatory properties of this plant, used in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis and to alleviate arthritis pain, were put to the test against inflammation in the lungs. Fruit extract from the plant had deep inhibitory effects on airway inflammation caused by allergic inflammation and asthma when combined with cyclosporine A.[13]

maybe make a soup out of it ?

 

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maybe make a soup out of it ?

Or a new Ester or something.

 

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Now, for some more in depth info on Peptide bonds. So far we have talked about when 2 Amino Acids come together to form a Peptide bond, and we have talk about when an Acid and an Alcohol come together to form an Ester, and how Amino acids can be used for this. Then a while back I talked about hydrogen Bonds, where Oxygen and Hydrogen react, and how different mixtures of Hydrogen, like Hydrocarbons, can cause different reactions.

So, now I am going to get in to more Peptide Bonds.There are things called Oligopeptides which just means 2 or more Peptides that have been bonded together via a Peptide Bond, just like when the Amino Acids were bonded to form the Peptide. And when you bond 2 peptides together, you create a new Peptide.

There are not only Oligopeptides, there are also Oligoesters, This is when you get 2 Esters to bond together, and create a new Ester. I am pretty sure that Esters and Peptides can also be mixed together, I have not found a name for this yet though, and I don't know how I would search for that.

There is also the possibility of "Dipeptides" where you take 1 Amino Acid, and add a strong acid, allowing it to react with itself. Ex: Glycylglycine (From Glycine). This makes a Peptide that is different than the Original Amino Acid, even though it is just 2 of the same Amino Acid. The Structure breaks down differently, and therefor has a stronger ability to get further in your body before it is broken down or used up.

These methods of making Peptides and Esters, mixed with the list of things I made and posted above this post, could create cures for everything humans have ever been ailed by, as far as Virus, Disease and Infection and stuff. I don't see why there is a lab working to make penis enlargement pills from spider venom because the venom makes people's dick so hard it explodes (heard it on the Joe Rogan Podcast), but there are no labs doing what I am outlining here, which has unlimited possibility, everything from non-Addictive pain management, to cancer treatment, to Caffeine alternatives, to Anti-Depressants and none of it is really being studied. It's just ridiculous.

 

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Russell Brand talked about Jubilee and touched on Debt slavery, and it just made me think of something I wanted to post here. When people think of "Slavery" they think of what happened in America, and how people were completely mistreated. And that is a form of Slavery, but there is another form of Slavery that we still use, but it's not really considered slavery any more.

In the Bible, people would become slaves in order to get something from someone. For example, there is a story of a guy you gives himself up as a slave for 7 years to marry a guys daughter, then the guy tricks him and gives him his other daughter who was not as pretty. Then the guy goes back in to slavery for 7 years in order to marry the other daughter. Then there was debt repayment. If you owed someone money, they could make you work for them until your debt was paid off. I don't have any debt, but I have noticed that in America when people go to college they end up with tons of debt, that they then have to work off. This is not them being whipped and chained, but they are in a form of slavery.

And as Russell Brand said in his video, Jubilee was a time when everyone's debts were forgiven, I think it was every 7 years or something like that. All the slaves had to be freed, and all the debts had to be forgiven. This is kind of what happened in Fight Club, when Tyler Durden used the working class people to create a massive distraction, while he blew up the credit bureaus.

If anyone feels like a Slave, there is an ancient Symbol you can use to show you recognize you are a slave and are sick of it. In Ancient Rome a bunch of slaves were freed, around 200 BC, and to signal this, the Emperor took a hat that looked like a red Santa hat, just with no fluff on it, and he put it on top of a pole. Slaves wore Santa hats in Ancient Rome, so this was a Symbol that they had been freed.

Since then, that symbols has become known as "The Liberty Pole", and if you look up "American Revolution" you will notice people in the drawings have Red Santa hats with no Fluff on them.

 

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A lot of people seem to think I am somehow arguing for the Zeitgeist, I am not. But if you want my arguments for how Christianity came out of Egypt, here is is.

All you have to do to prove that Christianity is plagiarized is talk about the life of Moses. I accept that Jesus was probably a person, my whole thing with Christmas is the Trees and Santa. I am not claiming Jesus as part of my religion.

1. Moses was raised in Pharaoh's house and was taught about all Gods

2. Moses made the Tabernacle and Covenant of the Ark out of Acacia wood, which is the Egyptian Tree of Life

3. Historians Think the Burning Bush was Acacia and Moses inhaled the vapors, which may have caused "Visions". Acacia trees don't burn easily, because they have gas that burns away around them and protects them.

4. Moses killed a slave driver when he had an identity crisis, then his brother took advantage of that, and freed his people.

5. Anything before Moses in the Bible, was written by Moses.

 

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And if you want to know what I think about Jesus, I don't use Mithra and Horus to try to prove that Jesus is false. I use Catholic tradition and Bible history to prove that Jesus was probably just a little ahead of his time.

If you look in to Catholic Tradition of the "Holy Family", which is Mary, Jesus and Joseph. They say that at the point in the Bible when the King said "Kill all children under the age of 2" and the Holy Family left town on a Donkey, they went to Egypt. According to Catholic Tradition, they specifically went to a town in Egypt known as "Sebennytos".

If you look up "Sebennytos" you will find that it is the center of an ancient cult, and was founded by an ancient cult. This is the Cult of Serapis. This cult was known for raising cows, treating them really well, and then killing them to cleanse their sins, after putting a sun crown on the cows head. "Serapis" was worshiped in the form of a Human at the time of Jesus, but before the Greeks came to Egypt, Serapis was known as "Apis" and was a cow born of a virgin, impregnated by a ray of light from the sun.

I am not saying Jesus didn't exist, I am saying that this is where Mary and Joseph got the idea to tell their kid his was born of a virgin and that he was meant to be sacrificed. They shared the ideas of the cult they visited with him, but Serapis was a human so Jesus thought a human had to be sacrificed. Before the Greeks came, Apis was a Cow.

The cult of Serapis is not only known for being the founders of the town that the Holy Family visited, a member of the cult named "Manetho" who lived 300 years before Jesus, and he wrote a book called "Aegyptiaca" which is now known as "The History of Egypt". Manetho invented the word "Dynasty", and Aegyptiaca is the first document in history to use the word Dynasty. It was used to describe the Pharaoh families, and "Par'Oh"/Pharaoh is actually not "the King", Par'Oh is the palace where the king lives, and Apis the cow lived there with him, as well as some other people like twins and stuff.

In my mind if Mary and Joseph had the entire knowledge of the book Aegyptiaca, and shared it with Jesus in the context of the Serapis cult, it explains everything a lot better than "He was sent by God".

And the Bible was written 30 years after Jesus died, and if this hypothesis is true, then Jesus never actually read the book himself and just had it told to him by Mart and Joseph.

All of these things that happened are true, I am just not sure if Mary and Joseph read that book or not. That is the only thing that is not for sure, but it was written 300 years before they got there, so it is completely possible.

 

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Also,
When people think of Temples and Pyramids in Ancient Egypt, they often think of Slaves. But that is not how it worked according to Egyptian record.

According to Egyptian Record, Temples worked a lot more like Universities and Libraries and other Public buildings do today, except they waited until someone died and built the building in their honor. For example, instead of Thomas Jefferson starting a university, then his money going towards public education, how we do now. What happened in Ancient Egypt, for example, Imhotep died. And since Imhotep was known as a great builder and surgeon, the Pharaoh had a temple built for him so that people could go there and call on Imhotep for help. Imhotep's writings were kept here and his methods were passed down until they reached Greece thousands of years later (in the form of Aesclapius) and started western Medicine that we practice today.

And people were paid for their work, for example, Imhotep was not Royalty, but he was well respected and well paid for his work in building. And so were many other people. There is no time of Jewish slavery in Egypt according to Egyptian record. Christians will argue that the Ipwter Scrolls or something like that talk about Servants and stuff, but that was written before the Bible and it makes more sense that whoever made up the Bible story read that scroll and not that the scroll is referencing the Bible story.

 

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Moses and Slavery are not the only Fairy-Tales that can not be found in Egyptian history, or any history other than the Bible and Torah, the Bible also falsly inserts itself into Egyptian history another time, before Moses, so obviously, this means it should have been written by Moses. If Moses even existed at all, so there are some gaps starting to form on the Abrahamic side. And Abraham, Noah, etc. Also stories made up by Moses, and Moses himself is not accounted for in any ancient record.

But Joesph, we have all heard the Story of Joseph and his Technicolor Dreamcoat, and he gets sold in to slavery by his brothers and then eventually becomes famous in Egypt as Pharaoh's Dream Interpreter, and solved a 7 year famine.

The Story of Joseph can be found no where in Egyptian record. But according to Abrahamic Tradition, Moses wrote that story in the Bible. Moses was raised in Pharoah's house... If he even existed... So he would have heard of Imhotep.

Imhotep was not only a great Builder and Surgeon, but he was the Pharaoh's Dream Interpreter, and he was famous because he invented the very first Pyramid, known as the "Step Pyramid".

Imhotep was also famous because he solved a 7 year famine, he did not do this by interpreting a dream though, he did this by reading Ancient books (he lived around 2500 BC, so these books were SUPER ancient since he even thought they were ancient) and that is how he solved the 7 year famine.

The Story of Imhotep can be found on the "Famine Stela" and it is the only story in Egyptian history that even comes close to matching the story of Joseph in the Bible.

 

[Finshaggy]

Also, if Joesph existed he was rich and well educated in Egyptian culture after a while. So when his father Jacob died, he had him carefully buried in a cave that was made for his burial.

And this story teaches Christians and Jewish people how to deal with the burial, proceedings and possessions of a dead relative. No one has ever found Jacob's body. So if you take the story of Jacob as a fairy-tale that is meant to preserve the procedure of dead family, it makes a lot more sense.

 

[Finshaggy]

Some people think Jacob was buried in this Cave in Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs

Some people think Eve was buried in this tomb in Saudi Arabia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Eve

But there is no direct evidence that these people are in there.

 

[Finshaggy]

If you have ever wondered why it is so easy for everyone to hate the Palestinians and think "Well they shouldn't have done whatever they did to deserve it" is because "Palestine" is "Philistine". According to the Bible, David founded the state of Israel by killing the surrounding Philistine's. For example, the mythical Giant known as "Goliath" was supposedly part of the Philistine army. And when King David killed the Philistines, he secured his place as king by killing a lot of family members. Then he had babies with someone's wife and sent them to fight on the front lines, to die, so that they would never find out.

But the Philistines were the ones who were demonized through history, even though they owned the land that David took and were probably trading with David's people some time before he started the war. But those 2 groups have just been having Israel-Palestine conflict sine the beginning of the Bible.

 

[Finshaggy]

If you ever find yourself talking to a Christian who has read the Bible and REALLY thinks it is true and has done some CRAZY Bible study, they will pretend that anything outside the Bible is you trying to bring in a new argument and change the topic. But there are some things outside the Bible that they themselves use to validate the Bible, and they just don't bring it up unless they are talking to other Christians for discussion about how true the Bible is.

They use "Bible Archaeology" and "Syro-Palestinian Archaeology" for example, there are a lot of people who have seen VHSs and DVDs and Youtube videos in the context of Bible Study or Sunday School or even Church Camp, where people talk about how they found Noah's Ark in Turkey, and how they found Egyptian Chariot wheels at the bottom of the Red Sea. So they are not just using the Bible, they also try to use extra-Biblical archaeology to confirm the Bible, and even if not out loud, then in their minds.

First, if you ever find yourself talking to a creationist, or a Bible literalist. You are probably talking to someone who believes the world is about 6,000 years old, because there is a genealogy in the Bible from Adam to David to Noah to Moses to Jesus, and it only allows for about 6,000 years since creation. So first thing you should research when looking up these people is Bethlehem or Jericho. Both very important cities in the Bible, and both have history going farther back than 6,000 years. Tel es-Sultan in Israel is an example of an ancient human living place. Lebanon and Syria were also more connected to the Israel region than we imagine today.

Most Christians, even if they don't believe the world is only 6,000 years old, do believe that the Dead Sea Scrolls prove the Bible is a historical document. But if you study the Dead Sea Scrolls, they actually contain more books than the Bible, such as the book of Enoch and the Book of Macabee. And another Document that was found by researchers around the same time as the Dead Sea Scrolls (the 1940s I think) is the Nag Hamadi Codex. This includes books that a section of ancient Christians considered to be Holy. These books contain a lot of Information that most Christians probably haven't even read.

And if you read the Torah, or the Tenakh or the Septuagint, you will find even more information that many Christians have not read. But the Torah and the Tenakh are normal for people to read in Jewish Tradition.

Then there are people like Edward Robinson, he wrote tons of books, and tons of people have quoted him and expanded on his writings saying that different places in the Bible are the equivalent of other known historical sites. Many of the arguments for Biblical history are loosely if not completely based on his books. Some of the things he found are today considered to be the locations of different things, since much of the world is Abrahamic and they get to decide what is real.

 

[bradburry]

i think when everyone goes on about jesus ....they tend to forget he's just a person like his mother and everyone else.


just saying

 

[Finshaggy]

THE ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE

This was a story by Plato that helped people realize the limitations of their current knowledge.

Imagine you are chained in a cave, and you have never been outside of the cave, and you can not see any light from the entrance of the cave, only from a passageway that goes through the cave, but it is too far for you to hear anyone from there, just strange noises and metal hoofed footsteps. Every once in a while people walk by the light and you see the shadows they cast, but you can not see them. So to you the seem like Grotesque monsters that flitter by, as the noises and footsteps pass.

One day you are freed from the cave, but your friends are not. You leave hoping you can find a way to help them. You go out to the world and see the Sun, and the Grass and the Buildings and the People, and you try to go back to find your friends in the cave. You make it to the passageway where their used to be Grotesque monsters and strange noises, and you see people and horses walking regularly and talking loudly over each other.

You try to yell to your friends and tell them about what you have seen. But to them, you are just a shadow monster and a strange noise. Not only can they not understand you, they do not even recognize you and you can not reach them.

Moral of the Story: All the Shadows are Monsters until you get a new perspective on them

 

[Finshaggy]

BIBLICAL JUBILEE
"And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family. A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed. For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field. In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession."

'The land, moreover, shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are but aliens and sojourners with Me. 'Thus for every piece of your property, you are to provide for the redemption of the land.'