G8LED grow

DutchHaze

DutchHaze

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Hi all, just wanted to pass along my experience so far using the g8 led. Figured it could be helpful to someone out there considering going with this set up.

So it's my first grow with led since I've been forced into using a closet as a grow space. I bought a 3x3x7 tent. Only growing 2 plants in there. I got the 240w g8 led for $300. This light contains the full light spectrum needed, and looks cool with all the different color diodes. Tossed in 2 cfl's for side lighting.

Gotta say my plants are loving it. Nice green leaves, big thick stalks. They grew very fast.

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Temps have been easy to maintain. I don't close the door of the tent and keep a fan blowing into it.

I just hit the 8 week mark and yesterday was the first day of 12/12. I picked up the 'UFO bloom' light also from g8 for $175. It's 90w and all red LEDs. I just hung it right next to the 240w light. So that is the next test. See what kind of buds these lights will produce.

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So not trying to boast about my set up and trust me i don't work for g8. If I still had a whole room to grow in I'd stick with my HPS set up. I just wanted to show what these lights can do. Before buying them I couldn't find a whole lot. Maybe this will help someone out there about to make a purchase. I've been very impressed with how they veg a plant. Can't comment yet on flower production, but I will keep you posted. Can find the lights on amazon or at dormgrow.com

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Bad Karma

Bad Karma

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DutchHaze said:
So not trying to boast about my set up and trust me i don't work for g8. If I still had a whole room to grow in I'd stick with my HPS set up. I just wanted to show what these lights can do. Before buying them I couldn't find a whole lot. Maybe this will help someone out there about to make a purchase. I've been very impressed with how they veg a plant. Can't comment yet on flower production, but I will keep you posted. Can find the lights on amazon or at dormgrow.com
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If you don't work for them, then why tell us multiple places to buy the lights? Not the typical move for a grower, but it is for a merchandiser, aka salesman.
Dear G8LED/Dormgrow guys, please come up with a better way to advertise your product than spamming our forum with bogus grow threads, this is the second one in three days. Thanks :)
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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Bad Karma said:
If you don't work for them, then why tell us multiple places to buy the lights? Not the typical move for a grower, but it is for a merchandiser, aka salesman.
Dear G8LED/Dormgrow guys, please come up with a better way to advertise your product than spamming our forum with bogus grow threads, this is the second one in three days. Thanks :)
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LOL!

Off with his head!

I wonder how different a G8 and BlackStar are at 240W, in full spec mode?

I know that the BlackStar's are cheaper, straight from gotham though. O, am I an undercover salesman now too?!

;-)
 
DutchHaze

DutchHaze

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Ha, anyone familiar with the newbie thread will know that no company wants me as their spokesman. But hey, some people just love to play the role of internet message board detective. I bet if I went down the thread list, 90% of all threads the poster will say what equipment they are using. And most will give you an idea of where to find it.
 
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Eraserhead

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Dorm Grow, or G8, whatever they want to be called, has a reputation for creating fake accounts and posting "grows" on forums. Anyone that knows anything about LEDs, even minimal knowledge, knows Dorm Grow sells Chinese junk, unchanged since 2009, can be had from Alibaba for around $0.50 per actual watt driven, same junk, unless you like paying a huge premium to have Dorm Grow spray paint their name on the side? Dorm Grow cannot compete with HPS watt for watt, they sell similar lights that Blackstar used to sell when they first started out, every company has moved on from that design, long time ago, except a few, Dorm Grow is one of them.

Always wondered, what's the idea behind having to add an additional all red UFO? For one, UFOs cover about 18"x18" and needs to be 6" from the plant tops to even get anything out of them, except for the Progrow 180w ones, they have a little more coverage, can go a little higher, barely though. Shouldn't have to add additional lamps to complete a spectrum. I think it's designed just to get more $$$ from their customers.

Because of all that, when Dorm Grow journals pop up, people are going to be suspicious of it being the company themselves behind it.

I emailed Dorm Grow in mid 2013 and asked about their lights, what makes them so great, they basically said it's their spectrum. I bought one, and sold it to a fellow on here shorty after I ran the numbers on it. It was advertised at the time to use UVB and IR, and all the pretty and magical colors between, balanced out of course to make their secret magic sauce spectrum :roll:. Under the spectroradiometer, it showed 2 blue spikes, 2 red spikes, and a very low levels between all that. No violet, no UV, especially no UVB, no IR or even Far red. It had 2 blues, 2 reds, and 2 whites, covered about 440nm to 670nm, very, very minimal between 480nm and 610nm. It was supposed to draw 320w, but only drew 245w. It ran hot and loud. Bought it for $600, sold it for $200 if I remember correctly. It's really not even worth that.

Regardless, Dorm Grow is complete garbage, like I said, unchanged since 2009. LEDs have come a long, long way since.
 
DutchHaze

DutchHaze

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I don't know about all that. But we shall see what it does with these 2 plants. If it's shitty, I'm not going to continue to use it. Plain and simple. All I know is I've seen with my own eyes that it is an effective veg light. Flower? To be determined.
 
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Eraserhead

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$1 CFLs are an effective veg light. It is well known that even the cheapest LEDs veg well, but lack seriously in flowering. There are no 2 ways about it, you have a bottom of the barrel LED. Mystery LEDs and everything. If the power is not there, neither will be the yield. Nothing left to be determined.

Simple power in vs. power out. They do not use LEDs capable of the right numbers. You might want to invest in some Cree bulbs, they're cheap enough and will blow the doors off of any Dorm Grow, and you don't even need to add a UFO to it. :roll: At least you can finish your grow on time and get a decent finish.
 
DutchHaze

DutchHaze

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Dang, what do you work for Cree bulbs? Just kidding.

Look not trying to start a pissing contest here. Thought it was pretty clear when I said in original post that the different color diodes looked cool that I am nothing more than a novice. This was my first venture outside of the newbie forum. Maybe this was better off just being a blog post rather than put in the led grow section. Sorry. Certainly not debating the validity of your #s either.

Fact of the matter is I bought the lights, I'm using them, and I can't turn back time an not buy them. It is what it is. If it helps someone, good. Whether that's by helping them choose against buying or for buying.
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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DutchHaze said:
Fact of the matter is I bought the lights, I'm using them, and I can't turn back time an not buy them. It is what it is. If it helps someone, good. Whether that's by helping them choose against buying or for buying.
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That's right. And if you tell us the results were shitty, then we'll know that your not a spy/secret sauce agent from G8 because Erazed knows the results to be otherwise, as he crafts/sells the almighty Area 51 LED luminaries!
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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DutchHaze,

I've had decent results with my dorm grow lights, they are over priced compared to what you can get from Rapid Led (onyx bloom) which the cree bulb but from what I understand the Onyx bloom has only the one light spectrum for flowering, though a better diode with better drivers still limited in light spectrum. I am getting some better results with the Onyx bloom because I went to a scrog style and have done a better job on keeping environment in check with better air circulation, good temps and low humidity.

The only problem I have with Dorm Grow is cost of units, I am not sold on the Onyx Bloom yet for what I read it only have one wavelength of light. So I have purchased Area 51 RW-150's

Don't let some of these guys who spent money on Chinese junk give you a hard time about Dorm Grow.
Once burned by Chinese junk anything that is not top of line is not worthy of using....I say that is bullshit

Here is why check out my thread..

https://www.rollitup.org/t/led-comparisons.831616/

Granted when it comes to better efficiency of watts and top shelf hardware Cree is your best bet especially with these new diodes I am hearing of. I am not going to buy anymore dorm grows as they are behind in what is current. Not because I got poor results which I have not. I have been real happy with them only issue is again there is now much better didoes to be had for less, not that they can't produce they can.

And if these LED heads were honest, even a Dorm Grow lights are better then HIDs especially in your setup being a closet for one. And most importantly everyone knows HID lights do not offer a better spectrum of light then you can get with the right cheap leds. The advantage is typically the watt power behind them is usually 2.5 or 3 times what a typical LED setup will have over the same area. So they get good results not from the spectrum but the amount of light produced.

So check out my thread Keep up with Supra on his LED post and soon you can learn to build your own custom LED panel.

I found keeping those LEDS 18 inches above canopy is just fine. I strongly recommend scrog for lower branch requires more light power then what you get from the LEDS your are now using.

Now all my Dorms including my bloom panels are in veg room. I have nothing but Onyx bloom lights now but I need to add more light spectrum so I am adding the Area 51 RW-150 to the mix to complete what I did have with more light wave colors when I was using the Dorm Grown.

DankSwag



DutchHaze said:
Dang, what do you work for Cree bulbs? Just kidding.

Look not trying to start a pissing contest here. Thought it was pretty clear when I said in original post that the different color diodes looked cool that I am nothing more than a novice. This was my first venture outside of the newbie forum. Maybe this was better off just being a blog post rather than put in the led grow section. Sorry. Certainly not debating the validity of your #s either.

Fact of the matter is I bought the lights, I'm using them, and I can't turn back time an not buy them. It is what it is. If it helps someone, good. Whether that's by helping them choose against buying or for buying.
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DutchHaze

DutchHaze

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Wow thanks for your time explaining that. I will definitely check out that thread.

Can I ask u a quick question... I have the UFO and full spectrum right next to each other. Having the 2 plants, I'm not sure the best positioning below the 2 lights. Right now I have one directly below the UFO and the other directly below the full spect. Should I put it more so they each get half red and half full spect? I feel like the side coverage wasn't as good when I positioned them that way
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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DutchHaze said:
Wow thanks for your time explaining that. I will definitely check out that thread.

Can I ask u a quick question... I have the UFO and full spectrum right next to each other. Having the 2 plants, I'm not sure the best positioning below the 2 lights. Right now I have one directly below the UFO and the other directly below the full spect. Should I put it more so they each get half red and half full spect? I feel like the side coverage wasn't as good when I positioned them that way
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It's not easy but if you can get them high enough above canopy about 20 inches or little more you can get more coverage by both lights. As you noted you bought UFO all red so I would just keep your cfl's 2700k focused where the UFO covers to ensure as much coverage as the panel you have. If you want to add blue use 6500k CLFs in the mix.

Check my link again on LED comparisons you will see how the lights were arranged and set up. I used a mainline pruning to get multiple even tops, I still use mainlining when pruning in veg only to set up plants to have multiple even branches to weave them into the scrog mesh when putting them into flower.

Anywise hope you liked the pics from those dorm grown beauties and the hash oil was excellent the smoke superb!
Danktastic!

DankSwag
 
DutchHaze

DutchHaze

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Hey so now I remember reading that thread before I bought the lights. I think seeing what you had there was enough or me to pull the trigger. There wasn't a whole lot on g8 that I could find besides yours. There was a small feature in a high times equipment guide(here I go selling lights again). But seeing what you had gave me peace of mind. Shoot if I came away with even a fraction of your quality it'll be worth it.

Thank you
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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DutchHaze said:
Hey so now I remember reading that thread before I bought the lights. I think seeing what you had there was enough or me to pull the trigger. There wasn't a whole lot on g8 that I could find besides yours. There was a small feature in a high times equipment guide(here I go selling lights again). But seeing what you had gave me peace of mind. Shoot if I came away with even a fraction of your quality it'll be worth it.

Thank you
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DutchHaze,

Stay tuned on that thread for updates I am some new pics from the Onyx grow that has about 3 weeks left and they are looking really frosty....

DankSwag
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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Chronikool said:
Explain...?
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I will have to look for it in the post in the guerrilla grow #4 thread...as I understood what it said about the wavelength limited not a variety of reds but of a certain wavelength...

And add that to the results I've had with reliability and results so we are as I said not sold on it...

DankSwag
 
pghdave420

pghdave420

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Good luck with your grow.I to took chance at cheaper led (mars2).I got killer buds from it.I even used it again this grow and the buds are just as big as the hps side
 
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