My thoughts about Rollitup

[lilroach]

I hope that the administrators take this post in the light it was written…..and hopefully not take it down.

I was a fairly active member on here for about a year until the format change. This was my first grow-site and while I learned much, I also found all the conflicting information very confusing. The term “information over-load” certainly fit what I was experiencing, and my grows suffered as I attempted to try too many things all at once.

After the format change, everything else seemed to also….including a degradation of subject matter. “Where do you shoot your jizz most of the time” is a current thread that has spurred-on this post.

Then there’s the well-worn subjects such as defoliating that has about 3 pages of good information and then 96 pages of creative ways of insulting other members.

Prior to the format change, I had about a dozen good growers on my friends list that were active and gave and got good information. I just went through my list of friends and they all have left the building. The Exodus of these and many more good growers is certainly a symptom that something is going terribly wrong with RIU.

There are other grow-sites that seem void of flamers and trolls that seem to plague RIU. I know that the moderators on here have done their best to quell the comments from these posters, but it still happens on too many threads on a daily basis.

It’s sad that so many good growers are gone as new growers do not have the expertise to draw from as I did only a year ago. I too am strongly considering not coming back after this post.

So, in closing I want to thank RIU for being my first step in learning how to grow, but at the same time I’m sad that this site has turned into much mis-information and bullshit subjects that have nothing to do with growing. If you’re doing your first grow, there’s some good info on here…..but after that, I would look elsewhere to find out where the good growers hang out.

 

[Sand4x105]

While I pretty much agree with everything you say...
I'll miss ya LilRoach.
I'm always 'outside the box' so idiots that are idiots in life, are idiots on growing.
Peeps 'Like' to be part of the conversation, even if they have only heard, and never have grown...
How do you tell the difference ?
With the experience that you have gathered here.

Listen up you first time growers... YOU don't know shit, and for you to argue your shit attitude is stupid and shows it.

Less is always more, come here less, enjoy it more...
Seems like we were in the same boat....
I just jumped out sooner!

 

[mudballs]

the good growers hang out in the threads of other good growers where there is zero crap posts. they don't really muck around with other threads because they're mature enough to no longer find joyous fun in such things as jizz fests and the like. this is an underground hobby for a lot of us and it naturally attracts altered perceptions. you're right it's 80% shit and 20% greatness. you've gotten what you wanted and needed its only natural to move on but don't give a dissenting exit interview...just go. those that are prepped for the next level know where and how to find the answers and progress. if we risk imprisonment why cry about shitty posts?

 

[bradburry]

it would be better for people to know when to seperate the serious from the silly.....theres a time and a place for everything but when you open a thread regarding a good honest subject......you don't want your first post to be "SUCK MY MOTHERS DICK UNTILL RAW AND STICKY" ......it can ruin your whole thread.

 

[lilroach]

the good growers hang out in the threads of other good growers where there is zero crap posts. they don't really muck around with other threads because they're mature enough to no longer find joyous fun in such things as jizz fests and the like. this is an underground hobby for a lot of us and it naturally attracts altered perceptions. you're right it's 80% shit and 20% greatness. you've gotten what you wanted and needed its only natural to move on but don't give a dissenting exit interview...just go. those that are prepped for the next level know where and how to find the answers and progress. if we risk imprisonment why cry about shitty posts?

I understand exactly your point of view, and I would have penned a similar reply months ago. "Shut up and leave already".

I guess I was trying to not put down RIU so much as to hopefully make a point that would be taken by the administration/moderators that would clean-up the site.

 

[ttystikk]

I understand exactly your point of view, and I would have penned a similar reply months ago. "Shut up and leave already".

I guess I was trying to not put down RIU so much as to hopefully make a point that would be taken by the administration/moderators that would clean-up the site.

I agree with every word you said, including about the change in the site's character after the software 'update'. I'm not sure why, but the new format seems to encourage and promote juvenile behavior instead of the good stuff. I noticed the difference right away, hoped it would improve- and it hasn't.

The feedback about serious growers spending most of their time in one another's threads is incorrect; us serious growers spend most of our time IN OUR GROWROOMS, leaving little time for stupid drivel. That's why we don't spam or flame or start shit- we're just too fucking busy for that kind of stupidity.

If it continues to be a pain in the ass to weed through the drivel to find any good content, it's entirely reasonable to call the staff out on their performance before finding someplace that works better for you. I already have.

 

[mudballs]

don't get me wrong it isn't all shut up and go. its a nice change of pace to have this level of conversation. id rather you stay and help clean it up. petition for more moderation. be a louder voice of constructive input. why in gods name would a site let some of these threads stay escapes my rational to be sure.how can we change things? how about a way to ignore entire sections?theres only a few i would even want to see so a personalized forum homepage would be ideal. lets pool our efforts and try to gain control?

 

[bradburry]

you could have your own personal ban button for your own threads and allow only who you want in.

 

[sunni]

hi!

First off I moved your threat to the proper location, as its not related to growing so much as the user base/mods.

I don't see why we'd delete this thread as it doesn't violate any tos but I can certainly put my point of view on a few things maybe to clarify?

When riu went down it was down for about 2 weeks almost, completely shut down while we imported everything over to the new software , this certainly caused a lot of members to find another forum, however, we absolutely needed new software our website base and user base is HUGE, and vbulletin wasn't working properly
Leading up to those weeks which was about 2 months was constant frustration on both the users and the mods, because of the site not working, like ,...at all..

riu has been up since 06, and there are more people using web based forums through the influx of legalization /med cards in many countries, areas, states, ect. we have over 500,000 members and with that you get all types of personalities.

Riu has a few basic rules which we do our best to enforce throughout the forum board.
Our active mods do their best to read through their specific forums while cleaning up harmful or rude content.
However with so many threads and so many users often posts slip by us, which is why we have the community tool to report harmful content.

Unfortunately users feel the need to fight back rather than use the report function. We get about 10-50 reported content per day and I would say the majority of it is from toke n talk or politics. rarely do we ever see reported content from the marijuana section. Unless the community works together to report content thats inappropriate our mods will indeed miss some because we are volunteers who do have outside lives and while im not using that as an excuse it is true that we do have priorities outside riu , we do our modding because we love the website and just want to help out.

Ultimately, we need the community to help us to report bad content, while we also look for bad content ourselves. The way modding works its not like we can search or have a hit pop up when theres excessive swearing we physically have to read through every single thread,
this takes alot of time and effort, which is why things slip by us. On average I read about 8 hours worth of threads per day on riu 8 hours is certainly NOT enough time to read all the threads that are new that day let alone that week.
Basically there is too many threads moving to fast created or posts, to simply read in a day while managing my priorities outside riu.
The mods certainly do the best they can, and work really hard for this website however until the community starts using the report function, we will be missing issues.

So if you do see something thats rude or not for the board help us out we encourage you to hit report takes like 2 seconds! and we certainly wont ever tell anyone you did.

 

[ttystikk]

you could have your own personal ban button for your own threads and allow only who you want in.

THIS. If it's my thread, I should be able to remove posts I don't want in it.

 

[sunni]

THIS. If it's my thread, I should be able to remove posts I don't want in it.

this is why you have the report function We would never allow users to be able to remove posts they dont like, ive never seen a forum that has ever allowed that.
Hit report, and a mod will take care of it

 

[RM3]

I used to love it here, Ahhhhh the good ol days

 

[bradburry]

hi!

First off I moved your threat to the proper location, as its not related to growing so much as the user base/mods.

I don't see why we'd delete this thread as it doesn't violate any tos but I can certainly put my point of view on a few things maybe to clarify?

When riu went down it was down for about 2 weeks almost, completely shut down while we imported everything over to the new software , this certainly caused a lot of members to find another forum, however, we absolutely needed new software our website base and user base is HUGE, and vbulletin wasn't working properly
Leading up to those weeks which was about 2 months was constant frustration on both the users and the mods, because of the site not working, like ,...at all..

riu has been up since 06, and there are more people using web based forums through the influx of legalization /med cards in many countries, areas, states, ect. we have over 500,000 members and with that you get all types of personalities.

Riu has a few basic rules which we do our best to enforce throughout the forum board.
Our active mods do their best to read through their specific forums while cleaning up harmful or rude content.
However with so many threads and so many users often posts slip by us, which is why we have the community tool to report harmful content.

Unfortunately users feel the need to fight back rather than use the report function. We get about 10-50 reported content per day and I would say the majority of it is from toke n talk or politics. rarely do we ever see reported content from the marijuana section. Unless the community works together to report content thats inappropriate our mods will indeed miss some because we are volunteers who do have outside lives and while im not using that as an excuse it is true that we do have priorities outside riu , we do our modding because we love the website and just want to help out.

Ultimately, we need the community to help us to report bad content, while we also look for bad content ourselves. The way modding works its not like we can search or have a hit pop up when theres excessive swearing we physically have to read through every single thread,
this takes alot of time and effort, which is why things slip by us. On average I read about 8 hours worth of threads per day on riu 8 hours is certainly NOT enough time to read all the threads that are new that day let alone that week.
Basically there is too many threads moving to fast created or posts, to simply read in a day while managing my priorities outside riu.
The mods certainly do the best they can, and work really hard for this website however until the community starts using the report function, we will be missing issues.

So if you do see something thats rude or not for the board help us out we encourage you to hit report takes like 2 seconds! and we certainly wont ever tell anyone you did.

please don't ban me

 

[ttystikk]

It must also be said that many of the most obnoxious posters are enshrined in the pantheon of 'most valued members', due no doubt to their prolific postings... of nasty, useless baiting garbage.

If you don't deal with people who make a habit of such behavior, it sets the tone for the rest of the board.

A tone heard loud and clear by everyone who comes here...

 

[ttystikk]

I used to love it here, Ahhhhh the good ol days

Yeah, it's nice to have somewhere else to go.

 

[Aeroknow]

I hope that the administrators take this post in the light it was written…..and hopefully not take it down.

I was a fairly active member on here for about a year until the format change. This was my first grow-site and while I learned much, I also found all the conflicting information very confusing. The term “information over-load” certainly fit what I was experiencing, and my grows suffered as I attempted to try too many things all at once.

After the format change, everything else seemed to also….including a degradation of subject matter. “Where do you shoot your jizz most of the time” is a current thread that has spurred-on this post.

Then there’s the well-worn subjects such as defoliating that has about 3 pages of good information and then 96 pages of creative ways of insulting other members.

Prior to the format change, I had about a dozen good growers on my friends list that were active and gave and got good information. I just went through my list of friends and they all have left the building. The Exodus of these and many more good growers is certainly a symptom that something is going terribly wrong with RIU.

There are other grow-sites that seem void of flamers and trolls that seem to plague RIU. I know that the moderators on here have done their best to quell the comments from these posters, but it still happens on too many threads on a daily basis.

It’s sad that so many good growers are gone as new growers do not have the expertise to draw from as I did only a year ago. I too am strongly considering not coming back after this post.

So, in closing I want to thank RIU for being my first step in learning how to grow, but at the same time I’m sad that this site has turned into much mis-information and bullshit subjects that have nothing to do with growing. If you’re doing your first grow, there’s some good info on here…..but after that, I would look elsewhere to find out where the good growers hang out.

Even though I've only been registered here as long as you, I've been a lurker forever.
I've noticed a trend over the years here. It seems that the majority of people hang out for a bit, and then disappear. Could it be for the same reasons you want to bail?
I'm not so sure it's because some of the mis-information that happens. Or the attitude, as a whole, that rollitup is changing for the worse. Who knows though.

Anyways, about that absolutely disgusting defoliating thread that got hijacked:
I'm the nicest guy in real life(imo), but that guy who hijacked it, was talking so much bullshit, even I had to talk shit back. I literally had to try hard not to view new posts on it. Didn't work. I would view, get upset, and then post some bullshit back. I deleted more posts than the ones I left.

But I bet, that if someone posts an honest question, they'll still get a bunch of honest answers and opinions, as replies. Along with some honestly lame replies. I view those replies as comedy. Maybe lighten up a little?

 

[bradburry]

chaos i tell yu CHAOS!!

 

[sunni]

It must also be said that many of the most obnoxious posters are enshrined in the pantheon of 'most valued members', due no doubt to their prolific postings... of nasty, useless baiting garbage.

If you don't deal with people who make a habit of such behavior, it sets the tone for the rest of the board.

A tone heard loud and clear by everyone who comes here...

Well we only delete that is in the rules.
-Personal attacks (ie: youre a fucking idiot, go die, ect)
-Nudity
-Spam /Advertisement
-Goodbye threads
-Threads negatively posted about other members
-Selling/trading/gifting
there are a few others but they dont pertain to this issue

I cant ban someone just because someone finds that user obnoxious ..that is why we have the Ignore button found under your name top right hand corner, "people i ignore"

 

[mudballs]

I'm going this direction
https://www.rollitup.org/t/personalized-forum-homepage-ignore-forum-sections.852872/

Make Request>ignore sections.

not gonna try to change people that's an exercise in futility. gonna try to change the functionality of the forum instead

 

[sunni]

Anyways, about that absolutely disgusting defoliating thread that got hijacked:
I'm the nicest guy in real life(imo), but that guy who hijacked it, was talking so much bullshit, even I had to talk shit back. I literally had to try hard not to view new posts on it. Didn't work. I would view, get upset, and then post some bullshit back. I deleted more posts than the ones I left.

But I bet, that if someone posts an honest question, they'll still get a bunch of honest answers and opinions, as replies. Along with some honestly lame replies. I view those replies as comedy. Maybe lighten up a little?

This is exactly what im talking about instead of hitting report you contributed to the issue by fighting back.
this happens ALL the time. I mean ALL the time..its not just you people dont want to use the report function.

I've been on here 06, riu hasnt changed, assholes will be assholes, the only thing thats changed is the AMOUNT of members we have now compared to than
I see people get a lot of help on here make friends ect. I see that more than bad.

Everyone has their own views on WHAT should be deleted , or considered bad content,
sometimes we get reports about things that arent violating tos so we simply cant delete it.