@Positivity
Haha , man I really hope will be alright.
A friend of mine , bought some Chinese stuff ( from alibaba ) , stuff like sander, drill, ect ... can tell you , its not really good quality.
The drill had worked for 2 months by example , and button was inversed ....
Be careful dude , if you decide to go out from home for couple of hours, I won't let this things run without keep an eye on it
You right about watercooler , I would like to have one , but one thing crap with this AIO or DIY ; if the pump break , the cob will burn.
So I think I choose like JavaCO ( except if I go on vero29 )
@SupraSPL
Thanx for the link , was difficult to see , it was acces restrict from where I live
Anyway , it looks like Chinese stuff , man ,
If I go vero29 i'll take the Thomas research , run them at typical value.
sure its 45$ ... and yours its 7$ (the 50W aren't in stock by the way) , but its same stuff as Positivity link
But , I admit , I hesitate ,
from 128$ for 4xvero29 with Chinese driver to 280$ with "quality" driver
10xvero29 with Chinese driver = 4vero29 with quality brand driver
...hhmmm
But we are talking about electricity , its not trivial ,
if I'm wrong , I'm totally stupid , and lost some money , but do I got enough balls than you to take a risk without Chinese driver ....
I think I wont ship in US or other , it would cost so much , I will fond someone on place directly
In last case , if I really dont find someone , I 'll do ship , but in US , serious , I don't think its worth it
In all case , piece by piece or complete kit and bout this last , man,
4 lamps , 4 ballast ( 2 elect and 2 normal ) ,the silencer (which is so big ) , 3 extra ( 980m3 ;600m3; 300m3 ), lot of meter of shrink sleeve , 2 cooltube
1 carbon filter , 2 closed reflector , man I let you imagine the price of the shipping