How do you tell if seeds are male/female?

mudballs

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i don't think a seed is sexed, unless of course you buy feminized seeds, which the mother plant it came from was treated with a chemical to produce 99% female plants.. otherwise, i think that environment plays a part in the sex of a seed.. no real science to back up my theory though..
so that in itself is evidence gender can be pre-determined from seed. this is something i wish could be nailed down. i found one guy said the seeds with huge dimples at base and are plump round have a high tendency for females.
 

racerboy71

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so that in itself is evidence gender can be pre-determined from seed. this is something i wish could be nailed down. i found one guy said the seeds with huge dimples at base and are plump round have a high tendency for females.
how on earth is what i said suggest that seeds have predertmined sex when i think i said the exact opposite?
 

Tone5500

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Damn all the man is trying to do is an experiment in stead of hating why not just support and maybe take something away from it I mean he's putting in time and money to maybe clear a few thing up ..
 
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mudballs

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how on earth is what i said suggest that seeds have predertmined sex when i think i said the exact opposite?
weren't you talking about collodial silver? that makes fem seeds. so if you can force pre determined gender at seed it gives credence to the possibility that gender is actually predetermined in seed. we know enviro can have an effect but do we really know for a fact a male or female plant from a regular seed was in fact a male or female before we crack it? i thought that was still an unknown.correct me if im wrong i could be working on outdated knowledge.
 

racerboy71

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weren't you talking about collodial silver? that makes fem seeds. so if you can force pre determined gender at seed it gives credence to the possibility that gender is actually predetermined in seed. we know enviro can have an effect but do we really know for a fact a male or female plant from a regular seed was in fact a male or female before we crack it? i thought that was still an unknown.correct me if im wrong i could be working on outdated knowledge.
oh ok.. yah, with plants that were treated with something like cs, sure, the offspring will be about 99. blahblahblah % females.. but that's only true for plants that have been treated with a chemical..
imo, normal seeds that don't come from chemically treated mothers aren't predetermined as to which sex they will be, but rather environment plays a big role in the sex of said seeds..
check out qwizo's comments on the other seed sex question thread.. i'll find a link, brb..
 

Soulkipper

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if u let them go till mature it will let u know with out flowering imo
norm u see 2 whiskers at inter nodes
you see whiskers on all sorts of internodes on my females...
So a plant doesn't have to be mature to flower? Can I flower a seedling?
a seedling is just the first 2 round leaves, it probably won't flower.. once you have a true node (the next set of leaves) yeah you can flower it... like 5-10 days from seed.. but it'd be negligible amts of harvested weed.
 

mr sunshine

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you see whiskers on all sorts of internodes on my females...

a seedling is just the first 2 round leaves, it probably won't flower.. once you have a true node (the next set of leaves) yeah you can flower it... like 5-10 days from seed.. but it'd be negligible amts of harvested weed.
How do people get away with growing 12 12 from seed then?
 

mudballs

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oh ok.. yah, with plants that were treated with something like cs, sure, the offspring will be about 99. blahblahblah % females.. but that's only true for plants that have been treated with a chemical..
imo, normal seeds that don't come from chemically treated mothers aren't predetermined as to which sex they will be, but rather environment plays a big role in the sex of said seeds..
check out qwizo's comments on the other seed sex question thread.. i'll find a link, brb..
so along those lines theoritcally there is an absolute method, through enviro stimuli control to have 100% females without collodial silver or the likes. because each seed is stem cell awaiting programming.i'd like to think that but i can't too much genetic natural selection at play. even if the plant doesn't use xy chromosal based gender selection something else is doing it. something we can not effect making the male seed. this is great convo.
 

mr sunshine

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light is light, they'll grow one way or another until the internal conditions are ready to flower... which is about 1-2 weeks.
Yea but in two weeks from seed the plant is tiny .. let's say it starts budding..and it doubles in size that's still inches. Not feet.. I'd say 12/12 from seed I can get a foot and a half tall plant how do I end up with such a big plant? I think you mostly deal with cuttings from mature clones and are confused!!
 

mr sunshine

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light is light, they'll grow one way or another until the internal conditions are ready to flower... which is about 1-2 weeks.
Internal condition?. . Do U mean until it's mature enough to flower?I'd say it takes 6 to 8 weeks to mature two is not logical!If it was two weeks more of us would grow seeds indoor and get 20 percent more bud...The reason people like clones is because it's faster. .. at least a month and a half faster!
 
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mr sunshine

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We said before that a plant would grow in three main stages. Germination, Vegetative growth and flowering. Plants actually grow in 6 stages. Here is the life cycle of the cannabis plant.

Germination:
This is the initial stage of growth and occurs when your seed’s embryo cracks open and the seedling produces a root. This root fixes itself into the soil and pushes the newborn seeding up and over the soil surface. Following surface contact two embryonic leaves open outwards to receive sunlight, pushing the empty seed shell away from the seedling. It takes anywhere between 12 hours to 3 weeks for seeds to germinate. Once the plant has reached this stage it goes into the seedling stage.

Seedling Stage:
After the first pair of embryonic leaves are receiving light, the plant will begin to produce another small set of new leaves. These leaves are different from the last and may have some Marijuana characteristics such as the three rounded finger shaped points. As the seedling grows more of these leaves are formed and bush upwards along with a stem. Some stems are very weak at this stage and need the support of a small thin wooden stake tied to the seedling with some fine thread. The seedling stage can last between 1 and 3 weeks. At the end of the seedling stage your plant will have maybe 4 – 8 new leaves. Some of the old bottom leaves may drop off.

Vegetative Growth:
The plant now begins to grow at the rate which its leaves can produce energy. At this stage the plant needs all the light and food it can get. It will continue to grow upwards producing new leaves as it moves along. It will also produce a thicker stem with thicker branches and with more fingers on the leaves. It will eventually start to show its sex. When it does this it is time for the plant’s pre-flowering stage. It can take anywhere between 1 and 5 months for the plant to hit this next stage.

Pre-flowering:
At this stage the plant slows down in developing its height and starts to produce more branches and nodes. The plant fills out in the pre-flowering stage. During this phase of the plant cycle your plant will start to show a calyx which appears where the branches meet the stem (nodes). Pre-flowering can take anywhere between 1 day to 2 weeks.

Flowering:
During this stage the plant continues to fill out. The plant will show its sex clearly. The male plant produces little balls that are clustered together like grapes. The female plant produces little white/cream pistils that look like hairs in a pod. Each of the plants will continue to fill out more and their flowers will continue to grow. It can take anywhere between 4 to 16 weeks for the plant to fully develop its flowers. During this time the male’s pollen sacks would have burst spreading pollen to the female flowers.

Seed:
The female plant will produce seeds at this point if she has received viable pollen from a male plant. The seeds grow within the female bud and can take anywhere between 2 weeks to 16 weeks, to grow to full maturity. The female pistils may change colour before finally bursting the seedpods, sending them to the soil below. (Breeders like to collect their seed before the seedpods burst.)

These are the six stages of the life cycle of a cannabis plant. It is important to know that if the males are separated from the females and killed off then the females will not become pollinated.((this is from kind green buds.. cannabis grow bible.. written by Greg green!
 
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