I'm one of those people that work in healthcare and was told it was everyone's RIGHT to my services, my staff, my equipment and my time.I call BS. You would be happy to just sue the city if say a muslim refused to treat your mother with a simple life saving procedure because your mother was say a Christian and it was against his religion to do so. BS BS BS. Not gonna try to get him thrown in jail? Just gonna give him a hug and say "hey man, you did what you were allowed to do." BS.
simple to make laws and look at the world from one simple angle.
What's clear to me is that no one should be denied anything (particularly a life saving procedure) based solely on someone's version of the sky fairy story. An EMT that did so, and caused a death that could have been prevented should be charged with a crime.
If you're an EMT, treat people. If you're a baker, make fucking cakes.
Why should people have to tolerate religious intolerance?
watch out, he's gonna accuse you of "hate spew" for pointing out the obvious contradictions in his post.I call BS. You would be happy to just sue the city if say a muslim refused to treat your mother with a simple life saving procedure because your mother was say a Christian and it was against his religion to do so. BS BS BS. Not gonna try to get him thrown in jail? Just gonna give him a hug and say "hey man, you did what you were allowed to do." BS.
simple to make laws and look at the world from one simple angle.
not everyone who recognizes your fanatical extremist christian views is a sockpuppet, ginwillemina.you may be a UB sockpuppet
hey moron,You mean the intolerance of those that refuse to honor religious freedom?
Going forward, any EMT being interviewed in MI will be asked about this until a law is made not allowing it.You mean the intolerance of those that refuse to honor religious freedom?
maybe for being gay, hence the reason for the proposed law and this thread?I'm trying to think of any reason an EMT or Paramedic would have for not treating based on religion and can't.
So your saying you would give that muslim a hug and say it was his choice to save your mother, the old bag should have checked his religion first before calling. BS. You would NOT want that EMT charged with a crime? You would see your dead mother on the floor and you would defend his right to ignore her distress? We aren't talking about a citizen, this is trained personel.I'm one of those people that work in healthcare and was told it was everyone's RIGHT to my services, my staff, my equipment and my time.
You can call BS, but if you know the whole story, you wouldn't.
Or you may be a UB sockpuppet, in that case, you are likely to say just about anything and be wrong more than not.
I'm not sure why it's hard for you to believe, I'm against forcing people to do things against their will.So your saying you would give that muslim a hug and say it was his choice to save your mother, the old bag should have checked his religion first before calling. BS. You would NOT want that EMT charged with a crime? You would see your dead mother on the floor and you would defend his right to ignore her distress? We aren't talking about a citizen, this is trained personel.
"Going forward, any EMT being interviewed in MI will be asked about this until a law is made not allowing it.
I'm trying to think of any reason an EMT or Paramedic would have for not treating based on religion and can't. Maybe if someone is wrapped in bacon?"
It does not matter if you can think of a reason or not. This type of thing cant be allowed with any service that is supposed to save lives. You cant judge this based off what exceptions you can think of off the top of your head. Religions have all kinds of crazy rules. If Christians really went by the bible they would have to stone the EMTs who work on sunday.
i find that hard to believe because you reverse that view as soon as a woman gets pregnant and wants an abortion.I'm not sure why it's hard for you to believe, I'm against forcing people to do things against their will.
I honestly don't know a single person that was works in healthcare that would use this law. I think it's just typical political pandering bullshit.I typed a whole reply but it got deleted or lost somehow in the refresh.
As an EMT and emergency room staff member, I'm disgusted by this.
I will be doing CPR when your heart stops, not checking your religious preference.
I will be working hard to make you comfortable because you're a human being, not because we worship together.
Not one person in my ER would ever discriminate based on religious or sexual preference.
In fact, emergency medical service personnel are often saving lives without knowing the patient's name.
Your sexuality is not questioned in the ER and religious/cultural preference is noted in case we need it.
Denial of care, especially in emergency medicine, is typically because those resources/services could be better allocated elsewhere. It has nothing to do with you're gay or not.
How fucked is this?
I honestly don't know a single person that was works in healthcare that would use this law. I think it's just typical political pandering bullshit.
Hell, we treat convicted murderers and rapists with AIDS.
we've gone over this.
your confidence that people will boycott bigots is misplaced, a complete delusion.
and i think an EMT responding to an emergency at say a gay nightclub or gay wedding might be a good hint.
way to come out of the closet as a fanatical extremist radical christian, ginwilly.
i guess we're all just "religion haters" if we don't respect your "freedom of religion" in refusing service to gays (or any other minorities you loathe for that matter).
this and your post last night about how shit like this falls under "freedom of religion" in your opinion really seals the deal on that one.
you are a fanatical extremist radical christian bigot.
hey moron,
religious freedom does not mean you get to let gays die. that's called religious extremism. religious fanatacism.
but hey, don't let that stop you from talking about how much those "hajis" disgust you, you dumb hypocrite.
Eh?You mean the intolerance of those that refuse to honor religious freedom?