If I was new to LED I would be looking to the people pulling the biggest yields with the healthiest plants and basically copying their light situation. We used to have a lot of impressive GROWS on here that SHOWED what many different lights could actually do real life. Some are still here doing it, and I commend, respect, and thank them very much. IMO most others need to start sharing their actual experiences, or with all do respect, shut up. Also, I suggest to new comers to stop making things more complicated when the correct and simple solution gets recommended by people who actually do what they recommend and get success...then again comes back to SHOWING what things can do. If there were better options the real experienced people here would be using them...and many "followers" would regurgitate it over and over.
I would also not use this thread anymore. Stop listening to to who ever chimes in and has read some open source info. Find someone successful and study politely their situation.
I would want experience behind recommendations. and I would want multiple runs under it. not just one, re-creatable results is what people want and need to see.
Basically what I would need/want to see...very little people supply here.
All this adds to hps still remaining king in peoples' grow rooms. It's a shame really.
I am also sick of the general term LED...Be specific, what led? They are not all the same and vary SUBSTANTIALLY from brand to brand, model to model, size to size....as we all already know and where much of the skepticism and pissing contest come from.
If someones response to a good recommendation that is backed by great grows is...it's too expensive, or I don't want to DIY...then LED's aren't going to work for you most likely and you should pick hps...simple as that...no corner cutting...get what will work...or wait.
Ya ya ya...so WHAT WORKS?...IDK, you show me.
My rant is over...I digress...