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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
What are you complaining about? According to you, you don't have any income and therefore don't pay any federal income tax ....

Btw, this wonderful program all you "leaches" like, targets, as beneficiaries, specifically those that don't pay or pay very little in federal taxes ... if you don't know what I'm talking about, look up the spec's .

When I made a comment about the correlation the other day, it went way over your chief "numb-nuts" head.

Suck it up Ingrates!
actually, the program is functioning as designed..those who suck up resources is now reflected in their premiums.

the healthy insured are no longer penalized for the sickly, obese and all the illnesses that go with.

i'm height/weight proportionate and never need to see the doctor. my blood is perfect and that includes BP.

being the correct weight is the key..
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
I'm on a cell phone.
My policy covers out of state travel because my states insurance commissioner has it codified in law.
If we could buy across state lines I would be able to buy any shitty policy any bought off state would allow.

So do you have any other ideas? That one is thoroughly crap
First you have to name the state that policies are only accepted in that state before you declare victory.

You just stating that it would happen doesn't make it true. Especially since existing laws against shitty policies would make them illegal.

Just name the state you are talking about and we'll move onto the next one.

Try using logic instead of emotion, you may see things differently.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
And gin willy
ANY evidence I don't have a lack of choices of good policy's now?

Maybe you should go back to pocket 5s and complain about the black man
your arguments are inane
WTF? is this your way of making a point?

If it's that you have no clue, I get your point.

Have you tried crayons? You already played the racist card (don't know what it has to do with healthcare, but it's you we are talking about).
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
I asked you for ideas.
Guess i should of qualified that with
"Do you have any good ideas"
Or qualify it with "ideas my simple mind understands and my feelings agree with".

So you are now claiming you have plenty of choices from your own state so you having more choices wouldn't be even better?

Not sure what you are trying to say now other than RACIST!!
 

ChesusRice

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First you have to name the state that policies are only accepted in that state before you declare victory.

You just stating that it would happen doesn't make it true. Especially since existing laws against shitty policies would make them illegal.

Just name the state you are talking about and we'll move onto the next one.

Try using logic instead of emotion, you may see things differently.
All 50 states have an insurance commissioner.
My wife writes policy's for all 50 states.
Your idea is that all the insurance company's can move to a state with the lowest regulations and write policy's that do not meet any of the other 49 states laws and people would be able to buy them.
Save money and have policy's that don't do shit.
is that your dream?
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
All 50 states have an insurance commissioner.
My wife writes policy's for all 50 states.
Your idea is that all the insurance company's can move to a state with the lowest regulations and write policy's that do not meet any of the other 49 states laws and people would be able to buy them.
Save money and have policy's that don't do shit.
is that your dream?
Which state presently meets the description you are claiming?

If you wanted to show you understood at least a basic premise of supply and demand you would say OK that's one, what else you got. But by showing a complete lack of understanding of this very basic law, I'm afraid I'm wasting my time with you.

Do you understand why there is 50 different state insurance commissions even though there is a federal mandate now on what insurance must contain?
 
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ChesusRice

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Or qualify it with "ideas my simple mind understands and my feelings agree with".

So you are now claiming you have plenty of choices from your own state so you having more choices wouldn't be even better?

Not sure what you are trying to say now other than RACIST!!
But
you are a racist.
I read your racist crap here and at other Web sites.

It seems no matter what boards you go to people call you a racist.

Get a clue. We can see you under that white pointy hood you deny you are wearing
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
But
you are a racist.
I read your racist crap here and at other Web sites.

It seems no matter what boards you go to people call you a racist.

Get a clue. We can see you under that white pointy hood you deny you are wearing
Yeah OK, I'm a regular Clayton Bigsby. Not sure what it has to do with your flailing, but if it's all you have, it's all you have.

Care to keep going? Or is the racist card being played already got you firing blanks?
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Any good ideas yet?
So you ready to move on form that one? Me too, but they get even more complicated, I'm skeered of what this will do to you.

Do you understand what a certificate of need is? Why do we have them and how do they help?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
So you ready to move on form that one? Me too, but they get even more complicated, I'm skeered of what this will do to you.

Do you understand what a certificate of need is? Why do we have them and how do they help?
By preventing oversaturation of hospitals and equiptment used by them that drives up the cost of healthcare?
You want to roll those laws back I assume.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
By preventing oversaturation of hospitals and equiptment used by them that drives up the cost of healthcare?
You want to roll those laws back I assume.
So in your mind increased competition means increased costs?

If McDonald's could keep other fast foods from opening because they are already there, would their prices go up or down?

You can't throw a rock without hitting a subway here. Think they are causing their prices to go up?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
So in your mind increased competition means increased costs?

If McDonald's could keep other fast foods from opening because they are already there, would their prices go up or down?

You can't throw a rock without hitting a subway here. Think they are causing their prices to go up?
So doctors are as plentiful as mcdonalds workers?
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
So doctors are as plentiful as mcdonalds workers?
So your plan is to limit the choices for doctors? Do you think that will cause more or less people to go into the field?

Would allowing more PAs and NPs to practice in satellites help? You've just hit on another idea you probably won't understand either.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
So your plan is to limit the choices for doctors? Do you think that will cause more or less people to go into the field?
NO idea
And neither do you.
ONe of my best freinds is a doctor, He was going to be a jesuit preist.
He didnt become a doctor to make a shit load of money
But he never starved
BTW
Certificatre of needs Programs dont deny Doctors access to jobs or opening any practices.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
NO idea
And neither do you.
ONe of my best freinds is a doctor, He was going to be a jesuit preist.
He didnt become a doctor to make a shit load of money
But he never starved
BTW
Certificatre of needs Programs dont deny Doctors access to jobs or opening any practices.
Dude, you are seriously going to pull the "I know a doctor" card. Do you know what I do for a living? I know a doctor too.

CONs prevent medical care centers from opening, they prevent home health agencies from opening, they prevent medical equipment companies from opening. You are trying to make the argument that this keeps costs down.

Want to move onto the next one yet? You are doing so well I'm enjoying this.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
So your plan is to limit the choices for doctors? Do you think that will cause more or less people to go into the field?

Would allowing more PAs and NPs to practice in satellites help? You've just hit on another idea you probably won't understand either.
Would allowing hospitals to close down and build new facilitys some place else help the community they left?
Becuase that is one of the things CON laws do is prevent that kind of behaviour.
BTW
Single payer public option would solve all the problems you can even think of
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
So your plan is to limit the choices for doctors? Do you think that will cause more or less people to go into the field?

Would allowing more PAs and NPs to practice in satellites help? You've just hit on another idea you probably won't understand either.
Show me where there are a lack of satellite facilitys
 
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