Some are more equal than others...

[Red1966]

MADISON — Wisconsin taxpayers have paid about $139 million to private schools that ended up being barred from the state's voucher system for failing to meet requirements since 2004, according to a newspaper report.
State Department of Public Instruction data shows more than two-thirds of the 50 schools terminated from the state's voucher system in the last 10 years had stayed open for five years or less, according to the Wisconsin State Journal. They were all in Milwaukee.
Eleven schools, paid a total of $4.1 million, were terminated from the voucher program after just one year.
The voucher program expanded from Milwaukee and Racine to a statewide program last school year.
Last school year, there were 108 schools and about 25,000 students participating in the Milwaukee voucher program, and 146 voucher schools total. The state has budgeted about $210 million for all voucher schools for the current school year, compared to around $4.4 billion in general aid for public schools.

Doesn't address your claim. No mention of performance at all.

 

[ChesusRice]

Doesn't address your claim. No mention of performance at all.

I guess you are illiterate then.
Not going to play this game with you.
If you are truly interested you will do your own search
But you wont. You are just being your normal dick self.
maybe your family self immolated just to get away from you

 

[Red1966]

The Louisiana Scholarship Program allows low-income students to attend participating private schools at public expense if they are at C, D or F-graded public schools or entering the system for the first time. Vouchers began as a New Orleans pilot in 2008 and expanded statewide in fall 2012.
The Scholarship Cohort Indices measure only students on vouchers at the private schools, not the entire student body. The calculations are nearly identical to those used for public schools and rely heavily on test results. On the state's 150-point scoring system, anything lower than a 50 is an F.
Of the 22 schools for which the state released scores Wednesday, 13 were in the F range, including seven in New Orleans, three in Baton Rouge and one in Kenner. There were five voucher schools in the D range, three C schools and one B, with a score of 93.8: St. Benedict the Moor in New Orleans. (See the full list of schools.)
The lowest-scoring voucher school, Redemptorist Elementary in Baton Rouge, had a score of 18.6 on the 150-point scale. If measured alongside public schools, Redemptorist's voucher cohort would be the second-worst in the state, not counting alternative schools.
There are consequences for low scores: After two years, failing voucher schools may not take new publicly funded students. They may, however, keep the students they have.
Four schools appear to fall into that category: Holy Ghost Elementary, St. Alphonsus, St. Mary's Academy and St. Peter Claver, all in New Orleans. White said staff were working with those schools to figure out how many seats they would list when applications open in January.
Two schools on Wednesday's list have already left the program altogether: Cathedral Academy in New Orleans was shut down by the Archdiocese, and the state Education Department booted New Living Word in Ruston for alleged financial issues. Another school on the list, Bishop McManus in New Orleans, was barred from accepting new voucher students this fall due to low spring test scores.

http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2013/11/no_performance_score_for_80_pe.html

" Redemptorist's voucher cohort would be the second-worst in the state," So the worst voucher school wasn't as bad as the worst public school? You seem to be proving yourself wrong, again.......lol..........

 

[Red1966]

I guess you are illiterate then.
Not going to play this game with you.
If you are truly interested you will do your own search
But you wont. You are just being your normal dick self.
maybe your family self immolated just to get away from you

So it's my obligation to prove your case for you? Really? You seem to be doing a reasonable job of proving yourself wrong. I see no reason to interfere.

 

[ginwilly]

I went to a college prep school
you are an idiot

Is there a different kind of high school?

Did you mean you took college prep classes? or do you have different types of high schools in each district there? That would be cool if you did.

I went to the only public school I was allowed to attend. We didn't have a choice.

 

[NLXSK1]

Chesus...

You blamed Illiteracy on the rich and then defended the horrible track record of the public school system by saying it is better than anything else.

You still have not supported your premise that uneducated kids is the fault of the rich.

Please try again...

 

[Red1966]

Is there a different kind of high school?

Did you mean you took college prep classes? or do you have different types of high schools in each district there? That would be cool if you did.

I went to the only public school I was allowed to attend. We didn't have a choice.

Cheesy went to tho school that had those really cool short buses.

 

[NLXSK1]

I am going to take another shot at this.

Chesus, If you could show me where all this money has made things better then I might be persuaded by your argument.

If you could point to a 1% increase in taxes and spending on education leading to an increase in overall scores I might be swayed.

Unfortunately, education has been on the decline for a long time despite an ever larger amount of money being poured into it.

You blame the rich. I blame the unions. I blame the unions because it is the function of the union to protect and serve it's members and not the children. And the union serves it's function very well. Especially when it goes hand in hand with a complicit government.

But yeah, let's just blame the rich... it is so much simpler than actually understanding the underlying problems and why government never seems to make them better...

 

[londonfog]

Is there a different kind of high school?

Did you mean you took college prep classes? or do you have different types of high schools in each district there? That would be cool if you did.

I went to the only public school I was allowed to attend. We didn't have a choice.

Glad to see you use your government for educational values.

 

[NLXSK1]

Cheesy went to tho school that had those really cool short buses.

Cheesy calls me out for having talking points when he doesnt understand his platform nor has the capability of defending it.

Are you for freedom or not Cheesy? Poor people live in poor districts. They dont have a CHOICE of schools, they have to take what they are given by the government. I want poor people, I want EVERYONE to have a choice and be able to have their kids go where they learn the best. Yes, their will be failures but their will be successes too. And it puts the power back into the hands of the people it should never have left, namely the PARENTS. If they cannot determine the best path for their own children then I dont know why we allow them to keep em.

 

[Red1966]

Cheesy calls me out for having talking points when he doesnt understand his platform nor has the capability of defending it.

Are you for freedom or not Cheesy? Poor people live in poor districts. They dont have a CHOICE of schools, they have to take what they are given by the government. I want poor people, I want EVERYONE to have a choice and be able to have their kids go where they learn the best. Yes, their will be failures but their will be successes too. And it puts the power back into the hands of the people it should never have left, namely the PARENTS. If they cannot determine the best path for their own children then I dont know why we allow them to keep em.

Because we don't want them?

 

[ChesusRice]

Cheesy calls me out for having talking points when he doesnt understand his platform nor has the capability of defending it.

Are you for freedom or not Cheesy? Poor people live in poor districts. They dont have a CHOICE of schools, they have to take what they are given by the government. I want poor people, I want EVERYONE to have a choice and be able to have their kids go where they learn the best. Yes, their will be failures but their will be successes too. And it puts the power back into the hands of the people it should never have left, namely the PARENTS. If they cannot determine the best path for their own children then I dont know why we allow them to keep em.

And the CHoices they get to make only make things worse

But fuck all that as long as it erodes our public schools with UNION teachers sacrificing kids especially Minority kids education is A ok in your retarded world view

So in short your answer is More money is not the answer to better education
But taking away money from public education and putting it into private companys hands is ok
Even when the outcome is worse

 

[Red1966]

And the CHoices they get to make only make things worse

But fuck all that as long as it erodes our public schools with UNION teachers sacrificing kids especially Minority kids education is A ok in your retarded world view

So in short your answer is More money is not the answer to better education
But taking away money from public education and putting it into private companys hands is ok
Even when the outcome is worse

Previously, you quoted a source that said public schools were worse, so now you're lying.

 

[UncleBuck]

I went to the only public school I was allowed to attend. We didn't have a choice.

you poor, persecuted white male.

 

[UncleBuck]

I am going to take another shot at this.

Chesus, If you could show me where all this money has made things better then I might be persuaded by your argument.

If you could point to a 1% increase in taxes and spending on education leading to an increase in overall scores I might be swayed.

Unfortunately, education has been on the decline for a long time despite an ever larger amount of money being poured into it.

You blame the rich. I blame the unions. I blame the unions because it is the function of the union to protect and serve it's members and not the children. And the union serves it's function very well. Especially when it goes hand in hand with a complicit government.

But yeah, let's just blame the rich... it is so much simpler than actually understanding the underlying problems and why government never seems to make them better...

chesus never blamed the rich.

go to nations like finland and tell them how badly unions are working out so that they can all laugh in your face.

you spam republican talking points with all the grace of a retarded cat wth the stomach flu.

 

[ChesusRice]

Previously, you quoted a source that said public schools were worse, so now you're lying.

No I didnt Quote it.

 

[NLXSK1]

And the CHoices they get to make only make things worse

But fuck all that as long as it erodes our public schools with UNION teachers sacrificing kids especially Minority kids education is A ok in your retarded world view

So in short your answer is More money is not the answer to better education
But taking away money from public education and putting it into private companys hands is ok
Even when the outcome is worse

Not all the outcomes are worse.

You are against parental choice?

Who is the liberal here?

Are you sure what your platform is or have all those talking points gotten you confused?

 

[NLXSK1]

And the CHoices they get to make only make things worse

But fuck all that as long as it erodes our public schools with UNION teachers sacrificing kids especially Minority kids education is A ok in your retarded world view

So in short your answer is More money is not the answer to better education
But taking away money from public education and putting it into private companys hands is ok
Even when the outcome is worse

So, if more money is not the answer to a better education, how can the illiteracy rate possibly be the fault of the rich?

 

[ChesusRice]

Not all the outcomes are worse.

You are against parental choice?

Who is the liberal here?

Are you sure what your platform is or have all those talking points gotten you confused?

You are not advocating for parental choice
You are advocating for eviscerating our public school system
Again you are too stupid to even understand what the euphenism "school choice" means

 

[ChesusRice]

So, if more money is not the answer to a better education, how can the illiteracy rate possibly be the fault of the rich?

More money
smaller class sizes
and parental involvement are the cures to our educational shortcomings

Something you would know if it wasnt for the constant drum beat of right wing lunatics willing to sacrifice young lives for partisan purposes

And when did I say that illiteracy was the fault of the rich?
You are one fucked up little bot arent you?