I'm having good luck with hermie seeds

[tstick]

Okay, maybe this is fucked up, but I'm batting about 500 with seeds that I'm pretty sure were made from those late flower 'nanners we all know (and hate).

I'm just a personal grower and I thought it would be fun to try and pop some old seeds that I had saved from buds I got from the street or from dispensaries….I assume produced from intersex love.

So one of them turned out a plant with a female flower on one side and a ball sac on the other side of the same node…culled it right away.

But the other seed from the same group of seeds popped and (so far) has shown only female flowers.

And, in another group of seeds, the same thing happened -except instead of a hermaphrodite, one was male…but the other one was female!

I read lots of posts by people who buy seeds (for sometimes lots of money) and are disappointed that the seeds don't produce a really vital specimen. But, I'm just suggesting that you can actually get female plants from seeds that were produced by a "selfing" -or female flower that sprouted a male flower and pollinated itself and produced a viable seed from that pollination. It's not like it's automatic that the plant will be another hermaphrodite. Sometimes, they seem to "take a side" lol! Maybe in some future generation, that trait would reappear again…who knows? But if you get one that turns out female. then you just clone it….which is what I'm in the process of doing.



Maybe I'm speaking too soon. Maybe everything will soon change. I hope not, though. So far so good!

 

[Dankfactory]

Yes... This is how Soma, for example, creates his Fem'd seeds..
Thought this was common knowledge.

 

[tstick]

oh…well…umm…*embarrassed*

live and learn! I had no idea!

 

[Dankfactory]

I just noticed something in your post I hadnt before( kind of a wordy post)
You're basically touting potential benefits of running a female that was spawned from a legitimate hermaphrodite specimen? That is, a plant that threw pollen from a male pod and not a nanner? That's absolutely terrible advice.
Nanners can be beneficial I suppose, for those who want some femmed beans from a stressed but otherwise stable female from a standard line, but a female resultant from male pods? Nonsense.
Were you speaking of Nanners or Balls?

 

[tstick]

nanners

 

[Dankfactory]

nanners

Nanners aren't indicative of a true hermaphrodite. Even very stable clones will throw Nanners if taken to their extreme. It's my understanding that the pollen from a Nanner, from an otherwise stable female that was (usually intentionally) stressed to throw Nanners, will produce all Fem seeds that are considered relatively safe in regard to stability, depending on how stable the mother was to begin with.
Actual male pods are an entirely different story and are simply not even worth the risk.
Personally, I don't see any benefits of running Femmed seeds. Who cares if you're getting all females? There's a reason why growers select a single female out of multiple packs to cull clones from. Uniformity and quality in each and every female, instead of some outstanding phenos, and some that wont display desirable traits and vigor. Clones from a single elite female: Still the best( and easiest) method.
By the way, this same logic applies to why Autos are so pointless indoors. You can control the photoperiod from Day 1 with a simple flip of the timer, with a carefully selected elite clone.

 

[Cobnobuler]

Personally, I don't see any benefits of running Femmed seeds. Who cares if you're getting all females? There's a reason why growers select a single female out of multiple packs to cull clones from. Uniformity and quality in each and every female, instead of some outstanding phenos, and some that wont display desirable traits and vigor. Clones from a single elite female: Still the best( and easiest) method.
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You may be right, but many dont have the space, or the time to run a bunch of uni-sex plants looking to pull the best females from the crop. For me, its a little less hassle to just run fems. Especially when I veg a couple months. I dont want to waste my space or electricity on what might turn male.

 

[Dankfactory]

You may be right, but many dont have the space, or the time to run a bunch of uni-sex plants looking to pull the best females from the crop. For me, its a little less hassle to just run fems. Especially when I veg a couple months. I dont want to waste my space or electricity on what might turn male.

I guess I can see that, although you can of course sex out the males in Dixie cups, which can't take up much room in any garden. I assume you're making your own beans with the method then? Gotta get $$ if you're picking up a new pack each round!

 

[tstick]

That's kind of what I've been doing this last run….I popped a few seeds and grew them in Dixie cups that were like half full of soil. It took up very little space and very little soil.

One of the seeds started to show pre flowers in the Dixie cup after it was about 8 inches tall. I was excited to see some white pistils on the upper nodes…but then I saw that there was also a real "ball" -not nanner- on one of the very same nodes. So yeah it got culled right away.

Now, a second seed from that (same batch as the hermaphrodite) popped from is starting to show pre flowers and so far they are all female.

And I also popped a seed that was "selfed" from a plant from the last run -apparently, a nanner that was tucked deep inside the cola that I never caught it. But, I thought, wtf and germinated it and I've been growing it out. So far, it hasn't shown any pre flowers, but it is growing very vigorously and has some FAT blades that are much different than the plant that it came from. It's been under 12/12 for just a couple of days, so we'll see what turns up. I took a cutting from it just in case it turns out to be a female.