Affordable?

[UncleBuck]

You describe "working" as if the end result is the only component to consider. Even if what you said were true and it isn't, it's not "working", that is an incomplete view of the entire thing that Obamacare is.

You've never addressed how something is funded as being worthy of consideration as to the efficacy of it.

That kind of blind spot is a rationalization and intellectually dishonest, not to mention sort of leads to false assumptions.

For instance, if a person likes the result of a given action and ignores the means, that would make rape, making love, when they are two different things altogether aren't they?

Now I don't expect you to address the means, because you never do, but your blind spot is stunningly glaucomic.

we've been over this.

you refuse to be responsible for your inevitable medical costs and will eventually end up freeloading on the system so that people like me get to pay for you with every single hospital visit.

i don't wish to discuss your mooching anymore. i have accepted that responsible people have to cover the bill for freeloading mooches like you. next topic please.

 

[Rob Roy]

Do you know anyplace you can live like you want ? The world is not just for Rob Roy. You have to share and do your part.

You didn't address my questions...again. You sidestepped...again.

You also just admitted that your government is force.

No, the world isn't just for Rob Roy, when did I say that it was? I think I'm the one consistently stating we need to be tolerant rather than dictatorial towards others that are not aggressing against us.

You might want to learn about the non initiation of aggression principle. Or you could just continue to defeat your own arguments several posts later and continue to dance when Master wants to be amused.

 

[londonfog]

Since the beginning of the 16 game schedule, 7 teams finished the season 8-0 on the road. 6 of the 7 went to the super bowl. The other lost in the nfc championship game.

Dallas finished 8-0 on the road this year, becoming the 8th team to accomplish that feat. They have already beaten Seattle, in Seattle. Do not count them out.

Dallas has Tony Romo...nuff said or do I need to say CHOKE.
They beat Lions and that's it

 

[londonfog]

You didn't address my questions...again. You sidestepped...again.

You also just admitted that your government is force.

No, the world isn't just for Rob Roy, when did I say that it was? I think I'm the one consistently stating we need to be tolerant rather than dictatorial towards others that are not aggressing against us.

You might want to learn about the non initiation of aggression principle. Or you could just continue to defeat your own arguments several posts later and continue to dance when Master wants to be amused.

I already said I don't view the government as just force. I see good, bad and room for improvement. You only see bad bad government very bad

 

[Rob Roy]

that's exactly what we did when we passed civil rights, and then racist extremists like you carry on about it 50 years later, calling it "nanny control" while advocating for candidates who want to prohibit federal expenditures to any organization that even suggests that homosexuality can be an acceptable lifestyle.

No, What people like you did was tell others that property that was once theirs is no longer theirs to disposition. If that isn't what happened, I defy you to refute it without a side step or strawman. You never have and you can't.

 

[Rob Roy]

I already said I don't view the government as just force.

"Just force" ....hmmm. So you are admitting that the government at least sometimes initiates aggression against people that are peaceful?

You never told me what they do that doesn't have a component of force in the mix. Why not? Can't you back up your view point with ANYTHING?

 

[UncleBuck]

No, the world isn't just for Rob Roy, when did I say that it was?

when you suggested you should have a personal line item veto against any law which you do not want to follow.

 

[Rob Roy]

we've been over this.

you refuse to be responsible for your inevitable medical costs and will eventually end up freeloading on the system so that people like me get to pay for you with every single hospital visit.

i don't wish to discuss your mooching anymore. i have accepted that responsible people have to cover the bill for freeloading mooches like you. next topic please.

When you say "you" are you speaking in the singular or plural?

You sure like to run when the logic train comes rolling down the track.

 

[UncleBuck]

No, What people like you did was tell others that property that was once theirs is no longer theirs to disposition. If that isn't what happened, I defy you to refute it without a side step or strawman. You never have and you can't.

HOW CAN I TRULY OWN THIS GUN IF I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SHOOT SMALL CHILDREN WITH IT?

I AM A SLAVE AND THE GOVERNMENT OWNS MY GUN AS LONG AS I CANNOT SHOOT SMALL CHILDREN WITH IT!!!!

 

[londonfog]

"Just force" ....hmmm. So you are admitting that the government at least sometimes initiates aggression against people that are peaceful?

You never told me what they do that doesn't have a component of force in the mix. Why not? Can't you back up your view point with ANYTHING?

When did the government force me to join the service and make a career out of it ? I could have just became a car theft.

 

[UncleBuck]

When you say "you" are you speaking in the singular or plural?

You sure like to run when the logic train comes rolling down the track.

when i say "you are a freeloading mooch", i am speaking of you personally.

because we all know you're gonna take the treatment you can't afford rather than just die from some preventable illness.

 

[Rob Roy]

when you suggested you should have a personal line item veto against any law which you do not want to follow.

My philosophy is that all individual people deserve to be left alone if they are leaving others alone and that all individual people have the right to defend themselves.

Do you agree with that philosophy or disagree with it?


I bet you won't answer without side stepping, straw manning or some other non answer.

 

[UncleBuck]

My philosophy is that all individual people deserve to be left alone if they are leaving others alone and that all individual people have the right to defend themselves.

Do you agree with that philosophy or disagree with it?


I bet you won't answer without side stepping, straw manning or some other non answer.

your philosophy is a lot more than that.

your philosophy also subscribes to the notion that it is OK to kick a black person out of your store because he is black, a notion which you yourself have declared is racist, but somehow you exempt yourself from being a racist, despite the fact that you hold self-admitted racist views.

seriously, are you institutionalized? i get the feeling you are.

 

[Rob Roy]

When did the government force me to join the service and make a career out of it ? I could have just became a car theft.

Were you paid? Where did the money come from? Did all the money come from people that voluntarily purchased your "service" ?

Want to keep trying?

Name one thing that the coercive government does that isn't connected to force. You can't.

 

[londonfog]

Were you paid? Where did the money come from? Did all the money come from people that voluntarily purchased your "service" ?

Want to keep trying?

Name one thing that the coercive government does that isn't connected to force. You can't.

I you don't eat you die, so are you force to eat ? Without water your life will be short, are you forced to drink ?
Not everyone plays for the military.

 

[Rob Roy]

your philosophy is a lot more than that.

your philosophy also subscribes to the notion that it is OK to kick a black person out of your store because he is black, a notion which you yourself have declared is racist, but somehow you exempt yourself from being a racist, despite the fact that you hold self-admitted racist views.

seriously, are you institutionalized? i get the feeling you are.

You are afraid to answer the question, I knew that you wouldn't.


My philosophy says a black person owns himself and owns his justly acquired property. That gives him the right to determine how or if he will use himself or his property. That goes for everybody. You apparently can't comprehend that.

Whether I would use my property the same way as you or anybody else doesn't mean it ceases to be my property does it?

You run away, because you are inconsistent and sometimes get a glimmer of your own cognitive dissonance biting you in the ass.

So why do you think it is okay to make others serve people by applying threats to them? You've never answered that either.

Are you afraid to see that what you advocate is taking away a persons right of self determination?

 

[Rob Roy]

I you don't eat you die, so are you force to eat ? Without water your life will be short, are you forced to drink ?
Not everyone plays for the military.

Shitty answer and doesn't address the question. Not meaning to be rude, but you really suck at backing up your arguments with anything approaching an actual refutation.

The question was for you, the person that holds the opinion the government isn't force, to state some things, even one thing, that the government does that doesn't have a component of force to it.

I think you haven't done that.

 

[londonfog]

You are afraid to answer the question, I knew that you wouldn't.


My philosophy says a black person owns himself and owns his justly acquired property. That gives him the right to determine how or if he will use himself or his property. That goes for everybody. You apparently can't comprehend that.

Whether I would use my property the same way as you or anybody else doesn't mean it ceases to be my property does it?

You run away, because you are inconsistent and sometimes get a glimmer of your own cognitive dissonance biting you in the ass.

So why do you think it is okay to make others serve people by applying threats to them? You've never answered that either.

Are you afraid to see that what you advocate is taking away a persons right of self determination?

I like my world were I can freely walk into any store and shop. In order for us to have the word like you want it, we would still need force for it to apply. My way works best. I WIN

 

[UncleBuck]

You are afraid to answer the question, I knew that you wouldn't.

i don't answer loaded, incomplete, or completely bullshit questions. i correct them.

when did you stop paying small children for sex who "voluntarily" agreed to let you fuck them in the ass for X amount of money?

 

[londonfog]

Shitty answer and doesn't address the question. Not meaning to be rude, but you really suck at backing up your arguments with anything approaching an actual refutation.

The question was for you, the person that holds the opinion the government isn't force, to state some things, even one thing, that the government does that doesn't have a component of force to it.

I think you haven't done that.

You are not forced to stay. This government was here before you. If you don't like it you may leave. If you stay you will play like everyone else.