What Kind of Seaweed Extract/Kelp Do You Use?
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MOON SHINER
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Chelating agents found in Humic/Fulvic Acids and Kelp help with the absorption of nutrients. I have noticed since using Kelp/Seaweed Extract and Humic/Fulvic Acids I can run a MUCH lower EC in my reservoir than ever before.
Chelating agents also help with uptake of trace minerals, so they are in a sense a fast food drive through from nutes, to the roots, to the shoots, to the fruits.
I attribute this to a good base nute with all 18 trace minerals that is easily absorbed through a healthy root system fed with kelp, humic, and fulvic acids.
It could be kelp or skill or dumb luck but taste has improved since the addition Kelps, Fulvics, and humics into my feeding cycle.
This of course is my experience so take it with a grain of salt and a shot of tequila !
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GrowHydro2193
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This website says kelp has growth hormones...interested to hear budmans opinion
http://www.growgiant.com/advanced-plant-nutrition
"These natural hormones are ethylene gas, gibberellic acid, 4 auxins, abscisic acid, and cytokinins. They all affect the plant’s growth in one way or another, making them an essential aspect in maximum potential. If your plant is lacking growth, giving them kelp (ascophyllum nodosum to be exact) will make your plant’s cells divide faster and be inclined to grow giant!"
Snake oil or no?
http://www.growgiant.com/advanced-plant-nutrition
"These natural hormones are ethylene gas, gibberellic acid, 4 auxins, abscisic acid, and cytokinins. They all affect the plant’s growth in one way or another, making them an essential aspect in maximum potential. If your plant is lacking growth, giving them kelp (ascophyllum nodosum to be exact) will make your plant’s cells divide faster and be inclined to grow giant!"
Snake oil or no?
MistaRasta
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I'm sorry but this comment is ridiculous..
Why would anyone going to the lengths to provide an organic grow operation use backyard dirt and miracle grow?
..I might even have to throw some earth worms in the pots as well huh?
You've obviously never met anyone who remotely knows what they're doing when it comes to organic farming. My strains smell completely different when grown synth vs organ. Taste way better and are dense, because I know what I'm doing.
Not backing budman,the guy is saying that you're spending too much money on something that can be had for a lot cheaper.
MistaRasta
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I just realized that you obviously have no idea what you're talking about..
Kelp meal is amazing, for you to say otherwise is foolish. Maybe not directly for the plant but it feeds my soil more than 70 trace minerals, with potassium and iron.
budman111
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?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? LOL LOL LOL...I dont know what I am talking about!?,... now where did I leave that 'Paragraph of the week' sign Fagg?....
Flagg420
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Budman111 grows his plants in 'the void' and has no use for soil with minerals in it
Flagg420
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Sorry, thought the OP had a general growing question about what others used for kelp product, didn't see where the word organic came in....
budman111
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I have no use for soil at all.
budman111
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Be polite and answer them then, so what kelp do you use?
Southerner
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Link me a peer reviewed study that says what that website claims, not a place that is in the business of selling those extracts.
budman111
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Don't be fooled by sales pitch buzzwords in that link such as "grow giant" and "essential" - - kelp is NOT "essential" and if your plant is lacking growth then they are probably low in Nitrogen and also, plants produce hormones such as auxins in abundance all by them pretty selves LOL.
like Southerner says above, I too want a see a link to a peer review study that says what that website claims, not a place that is in the business of selling those extracts. Got one?..........
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GrowHydro2193
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Nope, can't find one but it seems like the general consensus around grow websites
bertaluchi
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Can you ease up on all the "fag" stuff? I mean are we fucking middle school kids? Come on guys. Act like grown-ups.
budman111
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Nice troll stir up
It's Budmans self-confidence, despite his blatant ignorance, that gets under your skin. Took me 10 minutes to find studies showing kelp benefits. Here is 1:
The effect of kelp extract on seedling establishment of broccoli on contrasting soil types in southern Victoria, Australia
S.W. Mattner, D. Wite, D.A. Riches, I.J. Porterand T. Ariolia Department of Primary Industries, Knoxfield, Victoria,3180, Australiab Victorian Strawberry Industry Certification Authority, Toolangi, Victoria, 3777, Australiac School of Botany, La Trobe University, Bundoora, Victoria, 3086,Australiad Seasol International, Bayswater, Victoria, 3153,AustraliaBiological Agriculture & HorticultureVolume 29, Issue 4, 2013, pages 258- 270
Published online: 28 Oct 2013
This study investigated whether kelp extract from Durvillaea potatorum and Ascophyllum nodosum (Seasol Commercial®) stimulates broccoli establishment and growth. Under controlled conditions in the glasshouse, weekly applications of kelp extract significantly increased the leaf area, stem diameter and biomass of broccoli by up to 70%, 65% and 145%, respectively. Also in the glasshouse, lower strength dilutions of kelp extract (1:200 to 1:500) were most effective in stimulating early growth of broccoli, whereas higher strength dilutions (1:25 to 1:100) were most effective later in plant development. In the field, application of kelp extract as a drench to a clay-loam soil (Sodosol) significantly increased the leaf number, stem diameter and leaf area of establishing broccoli seedlings by 6%, 10% and 9%, respectively, irrespective of application rate (three applications at 2.5 or 25 l ha− 1). Furthermore, kelp extract significantly reduced the early incidence of white blister, caused by Albugo candida, on broccoli by 23%. In a sandy soil (Podosol), the effect of kelp extract was less pronounced, with only the leaf area of broccoli seedlings increasing significantly following treatment with kelp applied at the highest rate. It is hypothesized that differences in cation exchange capacity, organic matter and/or leaching properties contribute to variation in the response of broccoli to kelp extract in different soils. Future research is proposed to examine the capacity of kelp extract to offset the high nutrient inputs needed at establishment in the broccoli industry."
The effect of kelp extract on seedling establishment of broccoli on contrasting soil types in southern Victoria, Australia
S.W. Mattner, D. Wite, D.A. Riches, I.J. Porterand T. Ariolia Department of Primary Industries, Knoxfield, Victoria,3180, Australiab Victorian Strawberry Industry Certification Authority, Toolangi, Victoria, 3777, Australiac School of Botany, La Trobe University, Bundoora, Victoria, 3086,Australiad Seasol International, Bayswater, Victoria, 3153,AustraliaBiological Agriculture & HorticultureVolume 29, Issue 4, 2013, pages 258- 270
Published online: 28 Oct 2013
This study investigated whether kelp extract from Durvillaea potatorum and Ascophyllum nodosum (Seasol Commercial®) stimulates broccoli establishment and growth. Under controlled conditions in the glasshouse, weekly applications of kelp extract significantly increased the leaf area, stem diameter and biomass of broccoli by up to 70%, 65% and 145%, respectively. Also in the glasshouse, lower strength dilutions of kelp extract (1:200 to 1:500) were most effective in stimulating early growth of broccoli, whereas higher strength dilutions (1:25 to 1:100) were most effective later in plant development. In the field, application of kelp extract as a drench to a clay-loam soil (Sodosol) significantly increased the leaf number, stem diameter and leaf area of establishing broccoli seedlings by 6%, 10% and 9%, respectively, irrespective of application rate (three applications at 2.5 or 25 l ha− 1). Furthermore, kelp extract significantly reduced the early incidence of white blister, caused by Albugo candida, on broccoli by 23%. In a sandy soil (Podosol), the effect of kelp extract was less pronounced, with only the leaf area of broccoli seedlings increasing significantly following treatment with kelp applied at the highest rate. It is hypothesized that differences in cation exchange capacity, organic matter and/or leaching properties contribute to variation in the response of broccoli to kelp extract in different soils. Future research is proposed to examine the capacity of kelp extract to offset the high nutrient inputs needed at establishment in the broccoli industry."
Cobnobuler
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I don't know if one can say that Kelp additives are especially needed when one can achieve fire results without it.
budman111
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Link to the page or its fabricated (big word for you, I know) bullshit.
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budman111
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Just let the noobs and idiots waste their cash, after all, they are helping fund their domestic economy! ROTFLMFAO... A fool and his money... One born every Minute...ROTFLMFAO
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