cloning question

drolove

drolove

Well-Known Member
stronger the light the better. not sure on the actual spectrum numbers but your looking for a bluish white color.
 
Steele_GreenMan

Steele_GreenMan

Well-Known Member
It can work anywhere from a mainstem, branch, top, ect , but the general consensus is that cutting just below a node of a branch gives better results, and dont cut directly off the main stem unless you want to strip the plant bare.

Just grab a branch as mentioned

Roots form more quickly/sucessfully out of the nodes. Read up on cloning some more if your interested exactly why



see how the trimmed node is left at the bottom of the cuttings stem? this trimmed node is placed below the medium and kept there until root formation and thereafter.

Many times, the largest root will form directly from this spot in my experience
 
Last edited:
Steele_GreenMan

Steele_GreenMan

Well-Known Member
drolove said:
stronger the light the better. not sure on the actual spectrum numbers but your looking for a bluish white color.
Click to expand...
not true, clones require little light.

what is best for them in their early rooting stages is a low level of Cool blue cfl lights (6000 k)

once their roots mature and new growth begins, they can be "hardened" off towerds a light slowly

that means slowly introduce the plant to the new more powerful light closer and closer over time

if the clones are placed directly under too powerfulll a light it could easily damage their leaves or slow root growth
 
Tckcliff

Tckcliff

Well-Known Member
First and foremost you want to have a healthy hearty mother plant that is at least 3-4 months old to take some serious cuttings on her. I like nice hearty clones, so i bush her out and put her in a big ole pot and use some LST (low stress training) on her to be able to take a bunch of nice size clones.

I cut side branches and pieces but never the main stems, you can, i just dont. My plant has gotten to big before and i had to cut it in half (not literally, but close) and i used every branch to make clones, so do not think you cant do that.

All 4-6 inches sometimes alittle bigger, I cut at the node at an angle, and am basically making somewhat of a Y shape out of the clone. new shoot in between two fan leaves, and I trim off any fan leaves that are lower then those top two.

I trim the tips of the leaves to divert the energy into root development.

Throw some rooting hormone on the tip of the stem and insert into whatever medium you choose.
I like Rapid Rooters or Rockwool

If your going in to aeroponic cloner just put the neoprene insert around the stem. You want 2-3 inch hanging down. No need for cloning gel on the stem, the solution should be in the machine.

Good luck. And take as many clones as you can and keep practicing with it. Pick your best and toss the rest (or not) Its alot of fun. There are alot of ways to do it. like water cloning and air pruning
 
Last edited:
Tckcliff

Tckcliff

Well-Known Member
Oh and about the environment,you want it to be kinda like a tropical feel. warm and humid.

They need more humidity than normal, so thats why you see alot of people using clone trays with the tall lides. That traps in the humidity.
should be over 65% if its to low you will see them collapsing. Its sad looking, and looks like they shriveling up sometimes. But if you add more humidity they perk right back up. So spray it with a water bottle inside or something.

They dont need very intense light and you shouldnt use HID unless they are far above them and i mean like 4-5' at least.
T5s work great or CFLs and you can keep them about 1-2' above, depends on what size unit you have. they key is not to burn them.
Put the back of your hand over the tops of your clones and if its burning way to close!!
Plus if you have the hoods on the trays it will help absorb some of the heat and light.

Temps need to be nice and warmish like 70-85 ish

Once they got a nice root system, you can gently transplant it into her new home or apartment.
 
drolove

drolove

Well-Known Member
Steele_GreenMan said:
not true, clones require little light.

what is best for them in their early rooting stages is a low level of Cool blue cfl lights (6000 k)

once their roots mature and new growth begins, they can be "hardened" off towerds a light slowly

that means slowly introduce the plant to the new more powerful light closer and closer over time

if the clones are placed directly under too powerfulll a light it could easily damage their leaves or slow root growth
Click to expand...
ive cloned under 20 watts of fluorescent, 50 watts of fluorescent, 100 watts of fluorescent, 150 watts of MH, 400 watts of MH 400 watts of HPS, 600 watts MH, and outside under the sun with 16 hours of daylight. ive had far better luck with everything 150 watts of HID and up than any of the fluorescent lights. its true clones dont need tons of light, but in my experiences the more the better. the clones under the higher wattage lights rooted faster for me.
 
Steele_GreenMan

Steele_GreenMan

Well-Known Member
drolove said:
ive cloned under 20 watts of fluorescent, 50 watts of fluorescent, 100 watts of fluorescent, 150 watts of MH, 400 watts of MH 400 watts of HPS, 600 watts MH, and outside under the sun with 16 hours of daylight. ive had far better luck with everything 150 watts of HID and up than any of the fluorescent lights. its true clones dont need tons of light, but in my experiences the more the better. the clones under the higher wattage lights rooted faster for me.
Click to expand...
right on, thats cool, everybody has different situation/results right?

in my situation it could of been the strain perhaps
 
ayr0n

ayr0n

Well-Known Member
Buddhalovah said:
And is that til the roots start showing then I can transplant it to soil?
Click to expand...
Yeah you can transplant to soil as soon as you see roots. In my first attempt I threw a cut into soil only 5 days after taking it off the mother n it took off much faster than the ones I let sit in the humidity dome for longer (~10 days from cut) before transplanting. Time to root will vary from strain to strain n environment to environment but in my experience it's been between 5-10 days to see ROOTS hanging out of the bottom of the rapid rooters.
 
Last edited:
mattypp

mattypp

Well-Known Member
I've tried to clone with rockwool in covered dixie cups, a bubble cloner and lastly I used a cheapo setup from homedepot with jiffy pellets. Out of all of them, I have 100% success with the jiffy pellets.
My process simple.
  1. Add 1/8 tsp of superthrive to 1 gallon of water. Then soak the pellets in a bowl full of the mixture for about 15 minutes. Then very lightly squeeze out the excess moisture. This step is extremely important. Don't completely distort the pellet or else it won't hold firmly against the stem of the cutting.
  2. Take your cutting, ensure there's at least 1 node you can strip off for roots to grow out of (As Steele_GreenMan noted above). I take it 1 step further and lightly scrape off the outer skin on the plant to show the darker green underneath.
  3. Let the cuttings sit in your cloning solution for 15 minutes then put them into the jiffy pellets
  4. I put just enough of the cloning solution into the cloner to soak the fabric that helps wick the water to the pellets. I cover it and leave it for 1 week. I then just check and make sure the fabric doesn't dry out.
This process has taken me from 0% success to 100% success every time. I just got done potting 6 clones that I had pulled. They all had roots shooting out everywhere! I put links to the cloner and superthrive below.


Superthrive - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-4-oz-Unique-World-s-Fair-Gold-Medal-Superthrive-Liquid-Plant-Fertilizer-100047020/100662160?keyword=superthrive
Jiffy cloner form HD - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Jiffy-Tomato-Starter-Greenhouse-313126/202250741
 
Tckcliff

Tckcliff

Well-Known Member
ayr0n said:
Yeah you can transplant to soil as soon as you see roots. In my first attempt I threw a cut into soil only 5 days after taking it off the mother n it took off much faster than the ones I let sit in the humidity dome for longer (~10 days from cut) before transplanting. Time to root will vary from strain to strain n environment to environment but in my experience it's been between 5-10 days to see a taproot hanging out of the bottom of the rapid rooters.
Click to expand...
Just wanted to throw this out there. Clones don't have taproots. Only seeds.
The roots grow off the sides of the stem and no root will form at the bottom where u made the cut off the mother plant.
Just food for thought no disrespect.
Grow strong and prosper
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top