2015 can suck it !

ttystikk

ttystikk

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mr sunshine said:
Let him keep it ..He probably deserved it anyway. ..from now on make sure he doesn't take anymore. . Give him his 5500 dollar raise. ..and never give him another raise again...it sucks but money's just paper family is what's important....
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So your 'advice' is to pat him on the head and tell him he got away with stealing from his own family?!

THAT'LL show him!

I just dealt with a similar situation; the lawyer and the Come to Jesus meeting are excellent ideas. He understands he pays back what he stole or he's done on the spot- with criminal charges.

Then find a replacement and train him to replace the thief; then if he ever snags a dime that isn't his again, the replacement will already be there and trained.

No one person or no one thing should be so critical to your business that letting them go threatens the whole operation. You have quite a range of interests and no one should be irreplaceable- not even you.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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WHATFG said:
If he needed money he could have asked for it....this was more calculated and done over time...not a lot of family loyalty there.
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True story, so treating him like family is only going to be treated as a green light to keep doing it.
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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WHATFG said:
If he needed money he could have asked for it....this was more calculated and done over time...not a lot of family loyalty there.
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Still. Family is family and he already said he was underpaid and irreplaceable. All that's going to happen is he's going to get pissed, quit and find a better paying job.its going to destroy the family... panhead already said he won't turn him in... so I really don't see another option..
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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ttystikk said:
So your 'advice' is to pat him on the head and tell him he got away with stealing from his own family?!

THAT'LL show him!

I just dealt with a similar situation; the lawyer and the Come to Jesus meeting are excellent ideas. He understands he pays back what he stole or he's done on the spot- with criminal charges.

Then find a replacement and train him to replace the thief; then if he ever snags a dime that isn't his again, the replacement will already be there and trained.

No one person or no one thing should be so critical to your business that letting them go threatens the whole operation. You have quite a range of interests and no one should be irreplaceable- not even you.
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I agree...With you but in this situation it's different his wife is sick would you pay 40gs to keep someone you love out of depression?. This type of stress can shorten a life...Every situation is different decisions should never be made without weighing your options every action has a reaction. ..If he decides to sweep it under the rug because that's what's best for his situation then it's ok... I was just trying to reassure whatever decision he makes. ..but i agree with you...from the outside looking in the answer to this question seems crystal clear ...but the family aspect makes those clear waters murky. Not to you or me because it's not our family and we can easily say fuck that fool. But it might not be that easy for him!

He already said he won't press charges..
 
mudballs

mudballs

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@ttystikk not true. i won't speculate on wifes condition or visitors allowed around her but it is pretty easy to keep a lid on this, mainly because it won't explode into paperwork, court, gossip. these are business men not schoolyard kids.
 
tytheguy111

tytheguy111

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panhead i have no experince in business so i cant offer much advice

but what i will say is your a better person then i am i would have whooped his ass or call the law


but he is ur wifes baby brother so i guess i wouldnt have done ethier


Be up front about it tho and if he wants to act like a cunt about it then release the hounds!!!!!!
 
tytheguy111

tytheguy111

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And when the hell hounds are taking a chunk out of his ass call him a cock juggling thunder cunt for me lol thats only if you have to tho
 
tytheguy111

tytheguy111

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mr sunshine said:
Still. Family is family and he already said he was underpaid and irreplaceable. All that's going to happen is he's going to get pissed, quit and find a better paying job.its going to destroy the family... panhead already said he won't turn him in... so I really don't see another option..
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Yeah then panhead can get some hombres in to do it for half the pay

I swear ive worked with Mexicans that get paid half what I did and worked twice as hard

I quit that job because I felt bad getting paid 15 a hour while Mexicans were getting 6 a hour doing twice as much as I did


Plus they brought there food left overs from the night before for everyone I never really cared much for mexican food but HOLY FUCK if that shit wasnt the best food ive ever eaten
 
sunni

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40grand seems like a lot to just loose...
how much do you make per year against him? it would seem he works quiet a bit compared to you and back breaking labor at that it would seem he feels under paid.
or maybe hes just a dick and really did just steal.

what you have to do is ask yourself how each action will have a reaction at the end of it
1. if you take it with lawyers and have both sides of families involved how will that affect your business and your home life?
2. if you say things to him personally in office and ask? how will it be if there are plausible reasons to his actions? How will it affect your working relationship?
3. if you keep him as an employee and tell him personally about the stolen money how will that affect your work relationship? and how can you be safe in knowing to trust him again? and feel comfortable with him working under you still through tension times?
4. what if your wife finds out you hid this all from her how will that affect her is it worse or better than if you told her the true issue upfront?

Once you ask yourself these questions weighting out the pros and con of each you can figure out the best resolution for you and your family,
this certainly isnt an easy thing to have happen and i can certainly sympathize that you must be feeling hurt, angry and frustrated at the situation as it has presented itself.
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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tytheguy111 said:
Yeah then panhead can get some hombres in to do it for half the pay

I swear ive worked with Mexicans that get paid half what I did and worked twice as hard

I quit that job because I felt bad getting paid 15 a hour while Mexicans were getting 6 a hour doing twice as much as I did


Plus they brought there food left overs from the night before for everyone I never really cared much for mexican food but HOLY FUCK if that shit wasnt the best food ive ever eaten
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Stfu! You quit because you're a lazy fucker... I've changed my mind ,fuck that guy. 40 g's is a lot of money. ..that's besides the point it's the principal of the situation.Tell your wife bro, she's not your child she's your partner and it's your obligation to tell her...but if you don't, it's cool!
 
tytheguy111

tytheguy111

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sunni said:
40grand seems like a lot to just loose...
how much do you make per year against him? it would seem he works quiet a bit compared to you and back breaking labor at that it would seem he feels under paid.
or maybe hes just a dick and really did just steal.

what you have to do is ask yourself how each action will have a reaction at the end of it
1. if you take it with lawyers and have both sides of families involved how will that affect your business and your home life?
2. if you say things to him personally in office and ask? how will it be if there are plausible reasons to his actions? How will it affect your working relationship?
3. if you keep him as an employee and tell him personally about the stolen money how will that affect your work relationship? and how can you be safe in knowing to trust him again? and feel comfortable with him working under you still through tension times?
4. what if your wife finds out you hid this all from her how will that affect her is it worse or better than if you told her the true issue upfront?

Once you ask yourself these questions weighting out the pros and con of each you can figure out the best resolution for you and your family,
this certainly isnt an easy thing to have happen and i can certainly sympathize that you must be feeling hurt, angry and frustrated at the situation as it has presented itself.
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sunni i know meth heads that would steal a car,money,pills and jewelry from there own mother
 
tytheguy111

tytheguy111

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mr sunshine said:
Stfu! You quit because you're a lazy fucker... I've changed my mind ,fuck that guy. 40 g's is a lot of money. ..that's besides the point it's the principal of the situation.Tell your wife bro, she's not your child she's your partner and it's your obligation to tell her...but if you don't, it's cool!
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i quit because i was making twice as much money then them and they worked there asses off and i didn't feel right

yes it was hard work digging a fucking pipe out of the ground next to a highway in 10 degree weather but i shouldn't have made more then the man next to me

i had to take breaks for nicotine lol but them mother fuckers didn't and then when it was lunch break we had a hour and they only ate for 30 mins and went back to it making less money when they had a full hour just like the rest of us gringos

it was wrong of them taking advantage of immigrants but they wanted to work and they had families and people back in mexico that they worked for so that there kids could go to school and have a full stomach every meal

and here i am a gringo making twice as much and i had to take dip breaks and used to full hour of lunch plus i dont have kids (that i know of) i mean i was poor but i could still afford hamburger helper and sweet tea

them guys deserve better its so sad thats how we treat people

i quit because it was wrong that i got paid more because im a legal us citizen and im supposed to work for minimum wage as opposed to a illegal immigrant that works his ass off not for his self but for his kids to have a chance to be successful and only makes 6.50 a fucking hour
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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tytheguy111 said:
i quit because i was making twice as much money then them and they worked there asses off and i didn't feel right

yes it was hard work digging a fucking pipe out of the ground next to a highway in 10 degree weather but i shouldn't have made more then the man next to me

i had to take breaks for nicotine lol but them mother fuckers didn't and then when it was lunch break we had a hour and they only ate for 30 mins and went back to it making less money when they had a full hour just like the rest of us gringos

it was wrong of them taking advantage of immigrants but they wanted to work and they had families and people back in mexico that they worked for so that there kids could go to school and have a full stomach every meal

and here i am a gringo making twice as much and i had to take dip breaks and used to full hour of lunch plus i dont have kids (that i know of) i mean i was poor but i could still afford hamburger helper and sweet tea

them guys deserve better its so sad thats how we treat people

i quit because it was wrong that i got paid more because im a legal us citizen and im supposed to work for minimum wage as opposed to a illegal immigrant that works his ass off not for his self but for his kids to have a chance to be successful and only makes 6.50 a fucking hour
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You're letting down the white race , ty. Get your priorities in order, you'll never make grand wizard with that hip hop attitude!
 
sunni

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ty theres nothing written by pan saying his brother in law is a meth head..so how does your post even warrant that explanation i dunno
 
tytheguy111

tytheguy111

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mr sunshine said:
You're letting down the white race , ty. Get your priorities in order, you'll never make grand wizard with that hip hop attitude!
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youre right



FUCK YOU GODDAMN CRACKERS AND NEGROS, BEANERS AND UH CHINKS IM SO RACIST I HATE MY OWN CRACKER ASS HONKY RACE

im an elite member of the kkk now i think

all i have to do now is send in my mail in rebate for 50off my robe hood thingy and ill be lighting crosses and scaring my black friends in no time!!!!!
 
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