blackstrap molasses
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Thank you
nomofatum
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More bacteria than fungus, but there is a bit of fungus food in there.
greasemonkeymann
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you are absolutely incorrect.
has calcium, magnesium, potassium and many other micro nutrients, how is that zero benefits?
Keep in mind that I see what you are tryin to say, in that ONLY organic farmers should bother with molasses, it can cause issues with nutrient lockouts and such.
but to make that type of statement? You are wrong.
I am going to
I am going to use it in a light dose and go from there
Ace Yonder
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I'm gonna second GMM in saying this is absolutely wrong
For all ^these^ reasons, plus the fact that Blackstrap Molasses acts as a chelating agent, chemically bonding with nutrients to allow the plant greater access to them.
greasemonkeymann
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I will say this, after using mlasses for yrs and yrs, I don't like to use it as a nutrient source, however it's the best for AACTs.
If you use if in a tea, go light, the frequent application is a tablespoon per gallon, I can say that this is too much, at least in my experience.
I would go half that. If you really want to use it as a food.
but be careful its GREAT stuff, but potent.
Ace Yonder
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I think that people mess up suggested dose because so many people confuse unsulfured and blackstrap (Blackstrap is ALSO unsulfured, but unsulfured isn't always also blackstrap), and they THINK they are using blackstrap molasses when they are actually using regular table molasses like Grandma's, where real blackstrap molasses has about 7 times the nutrient density. For instance, regular unsulfured molasses (Grandma's, Brer Rabbit, etc.) has 110mg/tbs Potassium, while real Blackstrap Molasses (Plantation, Wholesome Sweeteners) has 730mg/tbs Potassium. Blackstrap molasses also has MUCh higher levels of trace minerals, and is much more effective as a chelating agent. So lots of people are using the shitty table molasses, and having to use WAY more to get the effect, and then reccomending much too high of a dose for those who are using the real stuff. It's like they think they are drinking Smirnoff Vodka, but actually are drinking Smirnoff Ice, and then are telling other people "You need to drink like 5 bottles of Smirnoff Vodka to get even a little drunk" not realizing that the stuff they are drinking only has 5% Alcohol instead of the real Vodka's 40%.
lofly247
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Damn @Ace Yonder that was a really interesting explanation. Thanks
old shol4evr
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i agree completly ,i use 1 tsp with every watering ,there is defitnily a big difference in black strap and what ever you do don't lick the blackstrap that got on your hand ,man that shit is fucking nassssty .
Ace Yonder
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Haha no it's not, it's tasty! I take 1tbls by mouth every week for extra vitamins, every day when I'm sick. But it IS an acquired taste
old shol4evr
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bullshit the organic blacksrap i got will burn the hair out your nose ,let me tell you i no good mollasse and butter mixed and put on a biscut
Ace Yonder
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I really like it as a foliar too
Ace Yonder
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Ever had Tiger's Milk? Blackstrap Molasses and warm milk, it's what my parents used to give me instead of hot chocolate before bed when I was a kid.
chuck estevez
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funny that a leading organic soil Dr. recommends NO MOLASSES in her tea
Compost Tea Basic Recipe
A basic tea recipe would be as follows, with the understanding that if larger or smaller quantities of water are used, change the amounts of additives relative to the amount of water.
a. 25 gallons of water, aerated to remove chlorine, add two teaspoons of a humic acid solution (preferably humic acid extracted from your own compost).
b. 1 to 2 tablespoons of humic acid diluted in 2 cups of water BEFORE adding to the compost tea water OR 1 to 2 tablespoons of fish hydrolysate (pre-diluted to neutralize the acid preservative according to the label on the container).
c. 1/2 cup of kelp mixed in 5 cups of water BEFORE addition to the compost tea
d. 5 pounds of good aerobic (good smelling, like deep forest soil) compost with excellent bacteria, fungi, protozoa in the compost. Using a microscope, assess the compost: Using a 1:5 dilution of compost, 400X total magnification, there should be a MINIMUM of thousands of bacteria in each field of view, 1 strand of fungal hyphae in each 5 fields, 1 flagellate or amoebae in each 5 to 10 fields of view and 1 beneficiall nematode per drop.
Additional foods if needed to improve fungi: 1 cup steel cut oats, or bran flour, or shrimp shells (no protein on the shells!) put in the compost bag with the compost
Replace humic acids with the same amount of fish hydrolysate if the plants need a nitrogen boost
NO MOLASSES!!!!!!!!
Compost Extract
1. Place the compost (please test so you know the compost contains the organisms needed as indicated above) in the compost bag (0.5 to 1 pound per 5 gallons of water)
2. Briskly massage the bag for 30 seconds to a minute
3. Check the tea to make sure it has the organisms needed.
4. If not enough organisms, then extract another 0.5 to 1 pound, repeat if necessary until organisms reach minimum or desired levels.
5. Apply.
6. If the compost you are using has good sets of organisms in it, perform the procedure above.
7. But if you do not know if your compost is good or not, then add foods (humic acid or fish hydrolysate, or steel ground oats, or bran or.....whatever fungal food desired) to the compost 3 to 7 days before extracting (good air flow around the compost, don't let it get stinky).
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/Compost_Tea_Recipe.html
Compost Tea Basic Recipe
A basic tea recipe would be as follows, with the understanding that if larger or smaller quantities of water are used, change the amounts of additives relative to the amount of water.
a. 25 gallons of water, aerated to remove chlorine, add two teaspoons of a humic acid solution (preferably humic acid extracted from your own compost).
b. 1 to 2 tablespoons of humic acid diluted in 2 cups of water BEFORE adding to the compost tea water OR 1 to 2 tablespoons of fish hydrolysate (pre-diluted to neutralize the acid preservative according to the label on the container).
c. 1/2 cup of kelp mixed in 5 cups of water BEFORE addition to the compost tea
d. 5 pounds of good aerobic (good smelling, like deep forest soil) compost with excellent bacteria, fungi, protozoa in the compost. Using a microscope, assess the compost: Using a 1:5 dilution of compost, 400X total magnification, there should be a MINIMUM of thousands of bacteria in each field of view, 1 strand of fungal hyphae in each 5 fields, 1 flagellate or amoebae in each 5 to 10 fields of view and 1 beneficiall nematode per drop.
Additional foods if needed to improve fungi: 1 cup steel cut oats, or bran flour, or shrimp shells (no protein on the shells!) put in the compost bag with the compost
Replace humic acids with the same amount of fish hydrolysate if the plants need a nitrogen boost
NO MOLASSES!!!!!!!!
Compost Extract
1. Place the compost (please test so you know the compost contains the organisms needed as indicated above) in the compost bag (0.5 to 1 pound per 5 gallons of water)
2. Briskly massage the bag for 30 seconds to a minute
3. Check the tea to make sure it has the organisms needed.
4. If not enough organisms, then extract another 0.5 to 1 pound, repeat if necessary until organisms reach minimum or desired levels.
5. Apply.
6. If the compost you are using has good sets of organisms in it, perform the procedure above.
7. But if you do not know if your compost is good or not, then add foods (humic acid or fish hydrolysate, or steel ground oats, or bran or.....whatever fungal food desired) to the compost 3 to 7 days before extracting (good air flow around the compost, don't let it get stinky).
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/Compost_Tea_Recipe.html