Is Integration the key to peace?

[Red1966]

for you to even ask how is that so, tells me all I need to know about you.
http://www.socialwatch.org/node/16324

He didn't ask how is that so. So your conclusion is based on your preconceived idea, not anything in fact.

 

[Red1966]

yes it can ^^
my point was, in the UK race is not such a huge issue racism still exists obviously but has declined, while poverty here has got worse
many of the poor people here are from many different races, many of them have mental health issues / learning difficulties etc
the vulnerable people are treated poorly here, many people have an attitude of "its their own fault"

race does not cause big news here , its was more of a issue 20-30 years ago

it seems strange to me that race seems such a key issue
Do black folk in the USA feel like second class citizens ?
are race relations really that bad in the USA ?
is race such a big issue there because of the slavery thing ?

It's a big deal because it is a very profitable business.

 

[Red1966]

So how does that make the government in the business of college?
Without those loans. Even less people could attend

They're collecting interest on all those non-bankrupt-able loans

 

[Red1966]

Well thats a shame, your black folk would like it here lol

You really should pick a better authority for information. An ideologue will only recite dogma.

 

[Red1966]

I treat all idiots, racists and liars the same.
With disdain and rudeness they so deserve

Bullshit. I see you sucking up to Buckhead and London-doesn't pay his bets-fog all the time.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's a big deal because it is a very profitable business.

 

[Red1966]

And yet you worship science as a religion...

Well, pseudo-science.

 

[skunkd0c]

It's a big deal because it is a very profitable business.

Yeh , thats the feeling i get, but i am an outsider looking in so i'm not so sure
it seems like the folk who took away the rights of black people now want to pat themselves on the back for giving them back to them
or it seems like every white person in america has had some kind of guilt trip about racism forced on their shoulders
others try to exploit this, calling each other racists all the time
i find it hard to see the true motivation is to help black people
it seems like white american folk just want to score points over who is the most or least racist so they feel less guilt tripped themselves

but maybe im wrong UB claims his sentiments are genuine about black folk and he attends gay rights marches and is a self proclaimed feminist

 

[Red1966]

Your side attempts to politicize science. See climate change for instance, my side accepts the scientific viewpoint, your side accepts the republican talking points that come directly from politicians

Dumbass

Unverified bloggers poll of random persons using vague questions to reach unimplied viewpoints = the scientific viewpoint

 

[Red1966]

Yeh , thats the feeling i get, but i am an outsider looking in so i'm not so sure
it seems like the folk who took away the rights of black people now want to pat themselves on the back for giving them back to them
or it seems like every white person in america has had some kind of guilt trip about racism forced on their shoulders
others try to exploit this, calling each other racists all the time
i find it hard to see the true motivation is to help black people
it seems like white american folk just want to score points over who is the most or least racist so they feel less guilt tripped themselves

but maybe im wrong UB claims his sentiments are genuine about black folk and he attends gay marches and is a self proclaimed feminist

UB thinks blacks are unable to do the same things whites or others can do. The politics of "inclusion" have their roots in a belief that some are inferior. If that isn't racism, what is?

 

[UncleBuck]

UB thinks blacks are unable to do the same things whites or others can do.

same offer to you as to ginwilly.

quote the post where i said that and i will leave this site forever after sending you $1000.

If that isn't racism, what is?

this is.

black men are worthy of fear and distrust...The truth is that black males are just more inclined to criminality.

 

[skunkd0c]

UB thinks blacks are unable to do the same things whites or others can do. The politics of "inclusion" have their roots in a belief that some are inferior. If that isn't racism, what is?

I got the impression UB believes blacks do not have equal chance of opportunity within your country
not that they are unable or incapable of doing things other races can do

 

[ChesusRice]

I got the impression UB believes blacks do not have equal chance of opportunity within your country
not that they are unable or incapable of doing things other races can do

For the most part they dont.
Want a anecdote?
A freind of mine named Jerry needed a job. I got Jerry a job cleaning up contruction sites I worked on,
Jerry shows up at lunch to start his job at that site. Our leadman says "who hired the Nigger?"
I said That is my best friend. Then he goes on complaining "oh now we cant say nigger anymore?"

Jerry got that treatment at every job site he went to. And he quit. I quit a week later as well

Blacks get a lot of soft discrimination as well as hard discrimination. My old landlord (hes almost 90 now) Wont rent to blacks. I have worked at a few companies that will not hire blacks. Blacks get paid less for the same skill set and experience than their white counter parts

Even hookers advertise no blacks.
The USA isnt the UK

 

[ginwilly]

I got the impression UB believes blacks do not have equal chance of opportunity within your country
not that they are unable or incapable of doing things other races can do

He's basing it on our history of over 50 years ago. You have to realize Buck lives in all white areas and never socializes outside of the internet. He's a longstanding member of stormfront ffs. His reasoning would have you believe Germans today would still support genocide.

We have very real race issues in this country, especially in regards to law enforcement. There is a school of thought that to fix this, we need laws based on skin color.

You hear the very loud small percentage that consistently focus on race. Most people just live their lives with no regard to the another persons color here.

 

[ChesusRice]

He's basing it on our history of over 50 years ago. You have to realize Buck lives in all white areas and never socializes outside of the internet. He's a longstanding member of stormfront ffs. His reasoning would have you believe Germans today would still support genocide.

We have very real race issues in this country, especially in regards to law enforcement. There is a school of thought that to fix this, we need laws based on skin color.

You hear the very loud small percentage that consistently focus on race. Most people just live their lives with no regard to the another persons color here.

YOu advocate for a business owner to be able to refuse service for skin color.
Donut Shops
landlords
employers
Doctors
Ambulance services
Colleges

Are all businesses

 

[skunkd0c]

The USA isnt the UK

Yeh i get that impression too, you seem about 25-30 years behind on the race relations thing, don't worry you will get there

 

[UncleBuck]

I got the impression UB believes blacks do not have equal chance of opportunity within your country
not that they are unable or incapable of doing things other races can do

woah, you might have actually been reading what i have been saying!

are you suggesting that if we took a child from the bush country of africa and raised him a well-to-do, new england home with baby einstein, advanced preschools, SES advantages and the like, that child might score just as high on a WAIS-V intelligence quotient test as any of his american peers?

conversely, if we took that child from the well-to-do new england family at birth and raised him the bush country, he might not score as well on a WAIS-V intelligence quotient test as one of his peers back in new england?

these are mind breaking things that destroy the premise that some are subtly, corrosively trying to advance, thus why you gotta be so racist?

since red has me on ignore, you might want to run this ginwilly quote by him and ask him if he thinks his buddy ginwilly is racist.

http://www.pocketfives.com/f13/getting-tired-black-people-using-racism-excuse-their-failings-681213/index9.html#post7378555

basically, ginwilly states that blacks are naturally less intelligent than whites.

see if red thinks of that as racist for me, would ya?

thanks.

 

[UncleBuck]

He's basing it on our history of over 50 years ago.

didn't tbonejack just dig up an example today of piggly wiggly refusing to hire blacks in 2010?

2010 wasn't 50 years ago.

why do you think that blacks are naturally less intelligent than whites?

 

[ginwilly]

didn't tbonejack just dig up an example today of piggly wiggly refusing to hire blacks in 2010?

2010 wasn't 50 years ago.

why do you think that blacks are naturally less intelligent than whites?

He posted one southern white christian owner who refused to hire blacks and it made the news. 60 years ago the news would have been if one southern white christian owner hired a black. Seriously? You don't think we've made a lot of progress? Granted, we have a ways to go, people like you, who may have good intentions, may not, I don't know, focus entirely too much on race and hold our society back.

 

[Red1966]

I got the impression UB believes blacks do not have equal chance of opportunity within your country
not that they are unable or incapable of doing things other races can do

He says affirmative action, a form of racial discrimination, should be in effect in perpetuity. That a few who never saw discrimination should benefit at the expense of many who never practiced discrimination is treating people based solely on their race. If that isn't racism, what is?