purplelicious
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You want to argue about flushing? You are a super doss cunt extraordinaire!
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TonightYou
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Make sure you pour amino acids on your plants too. It's not like plants don't make their own or anything.
Plus I hear the generic head shop guy will be pushing some new product out soon, don't wanna miss out on that! Definitely will need some sort of wetting agent or flushing nonsense to add to your regiment
Plus I hear the generic head shop guy will be pushing some new product out soon, don't wanna miss out on that! Definitely will need some sort of wetting agent or flushing nonsense to add to your regiment
purplelicious
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I use Coco Wet. Look it up. It is what makes your concentrated liquid pesticides and stuff like that foam up white when you add water. Great shit and all organic. I also just use it to kill mites, they hate it really. You can use that information if you want or just keep your mind closed and believe that wetting agents are snake oil cause you read that somewhere or someone told you.
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TonightYou
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No I meant generic. I hear you can use a dictionary or the Internet to find the meanings of words.
Must have missed that while attending school. Your grasp on language is just as tenuous as your understanding on biology or botany.
purplelicious
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Take your shots while you can big man cause you don't have many.
TonightYou
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With all the stupid shit you say, I'm bound to have additional material
ayr0n
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Yo that Pakistan journal of nutrition tho.
"oil pollution"
So tell me why these guys set your standard for health and safety on the intake of combusted plant matter again?
"The samples were kept in the sun and dried for three days in flat white plastic the white plastic material was plastic"
"oil pollution"
So tell me why these guys set your standard for health and safety on the intake of combusted plant matter again?
oh man...The thing is littered with anti-cannabis statements and obviously biased against cannabis consumption. With this kind of reasoning we might as well not smoke weed at all, cuz Reefer Madness said it'll make you rape your girlfriend and kill people.
"The samples were kept in the sun and dried for three days in flat white plastic the white plastic material was plastic"
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TonightYou
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It's interesting, but it is excluding so many variables and unknowns that easily could be immensely more informative. I'd also add, no controls what so ever.Yo that Pakistan journal of nutrition tho.
"oil pollution"
So tell me why these guys set your standard for health and safety on the intake of combusted plant matter again?
oh man...The thing is littered with anti-cannabis statements and obviously biased against cannabis consumption. With this kind of reasoning we might as well not smoke weed at all, cuz Reefer Madness said it'll make you rape your girlfriend and kill people.
"The samples were kept in the sun and dried for three days in flat white plastic the white plastic material was plastic"
applepoop1984
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blanket statement from lazy minded absurdist.
"no, your link did, i just pointed it out"
you also pointed out that ... plants cant uptake nutrients into the fruit buds or seeds, the link I posted states otherwise and you chose to be subversive , like usual, I felt like a run on sentence would be appropriate seeing as your incoherent ramblings know no end, il throw in a tpyo too.
"You are a doss cunt. You have a wrong understanding of Darwin's work, you think flushing makes a difference (it's the dry and cure), and you can't even attribute correct posts to me.
I'll fly a kite, you can go pound sand."
wrong as his understanding of flushing might be, he's on the right track. hes open to experimentation and if everyone had your mindset, we'd all be using dc current just because Thomas Edison thought he was right about everything including the correct way to wipe ones anus.
"Make sure you pour amino acids on your plants too. It's not like plants don't make their own or anything."
well... http://www.haritsanjivani.com/pdf/effect-of-amino-acid.pdf
post a study that backs up your claims, or moe and larry are the only ones who'll buy your trifling bs
"oh man...The thing is littered with anti-cannabis statements and obviously biased against cannabis consumption. With this kind of reasoning we might as well not smoke weed at all, cuz Reefer Madness said it'll make you rape your girlfriend and kill people."
just because it has a spin on it , doesn't mean you cant use information from it. it was simply stating that cannabis has high levels of heavy metals in the smoke, which is much worse than eating said metals since they are absorbed much quicker. things can be more than one thing, in your case, your brain is mostly just a paper weight on your night stand
http://www.fundacion-canna.es/en/pollutants-in-cannabis
"Some heavy metals that can be found in vegetables, and particularly in cannabis, are lead, cadmium, mercury and chromium. These metals accumulate in parts of the body, and are not easily eliminated. When certain levels of these toxins are reached, metabolic imbalances are triggered, leading to poisoning. Lead poisoning is called saturnism and is characterised by the accumulation or this metal in the blood, soft tissues and bones, causing certain physiological disorders and even death.
Not every plant can tolerate being grown with high levels of these pollutants. However, the cannabis plant is quite resistant to their influence. This feature, together with the fact that it is fast growing, has lead to the study of cannabis for phytoremediation. Phytoremediation consists in growing plants in polluted soil so that they will absorb the heavy metals and other pollutants, ending up with soil decontamination. The subsequent treatment of these plants allows for the controlled elimination of pollutants. It can be also used as raw material to manufacture certain products not intended for human consumption. The capacity cannabis has for absorbing radioactive caesium has also been demonstrated."
game set match
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applepoop1984
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proof that flushing with water alone removes cadmium from soil: http://www.who.int/ifcs/documents/forums/forum5/nmr_cadmium.pdf
"Cadmium and cadmium compounds are, compared
to other heavy metals, relatively water soluble."
proof that cigarette smoke is much deadlier than eating fruits and vegetables containing cadmium: Jarup, L. (1992. "Health effects of cadmium exposurea review of the literature and a risk estimate". Scandinavian Journal of Work, Environment and Health 24: 1151.
"Although there is generally less cadmium in tobacco than in food, the lungs absorb cadmium more efficiently than the stomach"
proof that marijuana smoke has even greater levels of cadmium: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0926669002000055
"Determination of heavy metal content was carried out by means of atomic absorption spectroscopy (AAS). Four different parts of the plant were examined: seeds, leaves, fibres and hurds. In each case, the concentration relation was Ni>Pb>Cd. However, the heavy metal accumulation in the different parts of the plant was extremely different. All parts of hemp plants contain heavy metals and this is why their use as a commercially utilisable plant material is limited. We found that the highest concentrations of all examined metals were accumulated in the leaves"
who didn't believe marijuana could uptake heavy metals into the leaves flowers and seeds?
mgda can be used for flushing to remove cadmium and other heavy metals from soil:
http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/20357.pdf
Produced from BASF, methylglycinediacetic acid (MGDA) is produced from glycine. MGDA has a high rate of biodegradation >68%, but unlike many other chelating agents can degrade without the assistance of adapted bacteria. Additionally, unlike EDDS or IDS, MGDA can withstand higher temperatures while maintaining a high stability as well as the entire pH range. As a result, the chelating strength of MGDA is stronger than many commercial chelating agents.
and the safety of trilon mgda? http://site.saveoncitric.com/trilon_m_info.pdf
and the cost? $10.49 for 1 lb
ph is in the range of most detergents ie 11 since it will only be used in a pre grow flush to remove heavy metals from soil this wont be a problem, mgda is readily biodegradable on its own and is safe for the environment unlike other chelating agents. simply flush once with mgda, then flush again with ph'd water measure the runoff and adjust before planting, within 8 days the mgda will have biodegraded . currently in talks with basf customer service on use of mgda for bio remediation of soil and amount to be used for such purposes. this may be a breakthrough in growing , a crop free of most heavy metals which is safer for medical marijuana patients and cleaner tasting for everyone.
but... you guys helped too posting pictures to chuckle at... I cant fault you for that its the only thing you can do
"Cadmium and cadmium compounds are, compared
to other heavy metals, relatively water soluble."
proof that cigarette smoke is much deadlier than eating fruits and vegetables containing cadmium: Jarup, L. (1992. "Health effects of cadmium exposurea review of the literature and a risk estimate". Scandinavian Journal of Work, Environment and Health 24: 1151.
"Although there is generally less cadmium in tobacco than in food, the lungs absorb cadmium more efficiently than the stomach"
proof that marijuana smoke has even greater levels of cadmium: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0926669002000055
"Determination of heavy metal content was carried out by means of atomic absorption spectroscopy (AAS). Four different parts of the plant were examined: seeds, leaves, fibres and hurds. In each case, the concentration relation was Ni>Pb>Cd. However, the heavy metal accumulation in the different parts of the plant was extremely different. All parts of hemp plants contain heavy metals and this is why their use as a commercially utilisable plant material is limited. We found that the highest concentrations of all examined metals were accumulated in the leaves"
who didn't believe marijuana could uptake heavy metals into the leaves flowers and seeds?
mgda can be used for flushing to remove cadmium and other heavy metals from soil:
http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/20357.pdf
Produced from BASF, methylglycinediacetic acid (MGDA) is produced from glycine. MGDA has a high rate of biodegradation >68%, but unlike many other chelating agents can degrade without the assistance of adapted bacteria. Additionally, unlike EDDS or IDS, MGDA can withstand higher temperatures while maintaining a high stability as well as the entire pH range. As a result, the chelating strength of MGDA is stronger than many commercial chelating agents.
and the safety of trilon mgda? http://site.saveoncitric.com/trilon_m_info.pdf
and the cost? $10.49 for 1 lb
ph is in the range of most detergents ie 11 since it will only be used in a pre grow flush to remove heavy metals from soil this wont be a problem, mgda is readily biodegradable on its own and is safe for the environment unlike other chelating agents. simply flush once with mgda, then flush again with ph'd water measure the runoff and adjust before planting, within 8 days the mgda will have biodegraded . currently in talks with basf customer service on use of mgda for bio remediation of soil and amount to be used for such purposes. this may be a breakthrough in growing , a crop free of most heavy metals which is safer for medical marijuana patients and cleaner tasting for everyone.
but... you guys helped too posting pictures to chuckle at... I cant fault you for that its the only thing you can do
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chuck estevez
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TonightYou
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Do you even read what you post? Can you identify what makes something scientific? Shit even Wikipedia will state plants make their own amino acids. What you posted on the topic simply stated what certain amino acids do, and there is no authorship claimed either on the paper. Let's see what else you don't understand.
Just like your last pollution study, the following link mentions pollution uptake. Apparently you don't realize many of these pollutants can be absorbed via the leaves or buds. Yes they can uptake nutrients as well, otherwise folliar feeding wouldn't work nor would other biological functions plants take part in. Perhaps you should do additional readings on contaminated soil a few heavy metals. You'd find out most of these in soil become trapped in the cell walls of the roots due to their charge and being unable to easily be transported up the plant.
I suppose attempting to cherry pick information and sadly interpret it wrong is more your forte.
We've already gone over cadmoum.
Pick up a biology book. Heaven knows you may actually learn a thing or two.
chuck estevez
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he doesn't even read his own or any of the links I posted, Like you said, he cherry picks anything that might help his weak argument.
chuck estevez
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OMG, Now he is uses links to removal of heavy metals from, wait for it, WASTE WATERS http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/20357.pdf
talk about reaching,LMFAO
talk about reaching,LMFAO
chuck estevez
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(quote) POOPBREATH
,just because it has a spin on it , doesn't mean you cant use information from it. it was simply stating that cannabis has high levels of heavy metals in the smoke, which is much worse than eating said metals since they are absorbed much quicker. things can be more than one thing, in your case, your brain is mostly just a paper weight on your night stand
LMFAO
,just because it has a spin on it , doesn't mean you cant use information from it. it was simply stating that cannabis has high levels of heavy metals in the smoke, which is much worse than eating said metals since they are absorbed much quicker. things can be more than one thing, in your case, your brain is mostly just a paper weight on your night stand
LMFAO
TonightYou
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If he understood why plants can be used to leech things out of the soil, he'd know where they get trapped, in the root cell walls as they don't travel well being larger elements.
Just like the Nigeria study, he doesn't understand how science works or why posters can easily criticize it's methodology. That pollution, even heavy metals can be air born, explaining why they can be found in the fruits and leaves of plants. They did no move up their, they settled there in the first place.
Just like the Nigeria study, he doesn't understand how science works or why posters can easily criticize it's methodology. That pollution, even heavy metals can be air born, explaining why they can be found in the fruits and leaves of plants. They did no move up their, they settled there in the first place.
TonightYou
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That's funny. The mere acknowledgment of spin means one should be increasingly critical of any source.
chuck estevez
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this is the best part of all, go ask ANY organic soil grower if they do/can flush out their soil that they reuse. Kinda throws out everything these 2 guys have carried on about flushing, right?
chuck estevez
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Marijuana has high levels of heavy metals and turns you into a raving killing lunatic.
APPLEPOOP,, Hey, didn't you guys see this part? Marijuana has high levels of heavy metals
fuckin idiot.
TonightYou
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Yep. They are basically entrenched at this point. They want to believe their myth and anything to the contrary will be shut out. Stupidity is a choice they seem to prefer.
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