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Devils34

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working their genetics to limit the amount of bad pheno's would be a good start. I haven't attempted any grows yet, but from researching it seems like almost every strain has a few bad phenos or ones that aren't even close to the awesome pheno that everyone wants.

If they work them properly, they could narrow down the need to search for a pheno & then it would basically be if you grow it properly, you will get this amazing result, no searching.

For instance, I bought HSO's Blue Dream. In another thread ppl are saying some of the pheno's aren't great. However, there is a Blueberry/Silver pheno that tastes like a Blueberry Haze, that is the absolute keeper pheno that everyone wants. It doesn't appear that a lot of people get that pheno though.

For a strain to be released, I would like no more than 3 pheno possibilities…and a percentage breakdown of the possibility of having each pheno….that would influence my purchase big time if they were able to do this. I know it's possible & realize it takes time, but theres some strains that have been out since the mid-late 90's that this hasn't happened with yet, due to the breeder not giving a fuck.
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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Devils34 said:
working their genetics to limit the amount of bad pheno's would be a good start. I haven't attempted any grows yet, but from researching it seems like almost every strain has a few bad phenos or ones that aren't even close to the awesome pheno that everyone wants.

If they work them properly, they could narrow down the need to search for a pheno & then it would basically be if you grow it properly, you will get this amazing result, no searching.

For instance, I bought HSO's Blue Dream. In another thread ppl are saying some of the pheno's aren't great. However, there is a Blueberry/Silver pheno that tastes like a Blueberry Haze, that is the absolute keeper pheno that everyone wants. It doesn't appear that a lot of people get that pheno though.

For a strain to be released, I would like no more than 3 pheno possibilities…and a percentage breakdown of the possibility of having each pheno….that would influence my purchase big time if they were able to do this. I know it's possible & realize it takes time, but theres some strains that have been out since the mid-late 90's that this hasn't happened with yet, due to the breeder not giving a fuck.
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Check out Dynasty at Sannie's. They provide this exact kind of information regarding phenotypes and the percentage in which they will appear.

Their facebook page also has the most stunning macro photography of glandular trichomes. Needless to say I bought 8 packs of their beans last month. :D
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Devils34 said:
working their genetics to limit the amount of bad pheno's would be a good start. I haven't attempted any grows yet, but from researching it seems like almost every strain has a few bad phenos or ones that aren't even close to the awesome pheno that everyone wants.

If they work them properly, they could narrow down the need to search for a pheno & then it would basically be if you grow it properly, you will get this amazing result, no searching.

For instance, I bought HSO's Blue Dream. In another thread ppl are saying some of the pheno's aren't great. However, there is a Blueberry/Silver pheno that tastes like a Blueberry Haze, that is the absolute keeper pheno that everyone wants. It doesn't appear that a lot of people get that pheno though.

For a strain to be released, I would like no more than 3 pheno possibilities…and a percentage breakdown of the possibility of having each pheno….that would influence my purchase big time if they were able to do this. I know it's possible & realize it takes time, but theres some strains that have been out since the mid-late 90's that this hasn't happened with yet, due to the breeder not giving a fuck.
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It's not as profitable to do this, and that's why it's not done. Growers continue to chase the latest flavor of the month, so there is no financial incentive for breeders to work their lines.


D_Urbmon said:
Check out Dynasty at Sannie's. They provide this exact kind of information regarding phenotypes and the percentage in which they will appear.

Their facebook page also has the most stunning macro photography of glandular trichomes. Needless to say I bought 8 packs of their beans last month. :D
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I was just gonna say the same. Dynasty does a really good job of breaking down the phenotypes by description and frequency you should see them. Now, how reliable that info is remains to be seen. I've got 6 CCK gals in flower that will give me an idea....
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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st0wandgrow said:
It's not as profitable to do this, and that's why it's not done. Growers continue to chase the latest flavor of the month, so there is no financial incentive for breeders to work their lines.




I was just gonna say the same. Dynasty does a really good job of breaking down the phenotypes by description and frequency you should see them. Now, how reliable that info is remains to be seen. I've got 6 CCK gals in flower that will give me an idea....
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I've also noticed some of the strains have names like Blue Magoo x Blue Heron #111 which leads me to believe that they actually did selections from decent sized populations in the hundreds, not just your average pollen chucker who picks their best specimen from a 10 pack to breed with.

I mean could be marketing techniques but Dynasty seems to have good vibes from what I can tell.
 
TonightYou

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D_Urbmon said:
I've also noticed some of the strains have names like Blue Magoo x Blue Heron #111 which leads me to believe that they actually did selections from decent sized populations in the hundreds, not just your average pollen chucker who picks their best specimen from a 10 pack to breed with.

I mean could be marketing techniques but Dynasty seems to have good vibes from what I can tell.
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Dynasty caught my eye because so many people had good things to say about them. Their prices aren't bad either.

I've only seen a couple and they been recent postings saying they weren't all that strong or something to ththat's effect but it's definitely a brand on my list this year of breeders to check up on.
 
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GHOPZZ

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Dynasty Genetics is legit. Iran there CCK twice and its amazing. If you get a chance to get the Ms. Univese pheno clone it. Shit is in my top 3 of all-time. i got a Pineapple Diesel thats veggin that looks insane. Currently sannie is out of the CCK, does anyone kow when it will be back?
 
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akhiymjames

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Devils34 said:
working their genetics to limit the amount of bad pheno's would be a good start. I haven't attempted any grows yet, but from researching it seems like almost every strain has a few bad phenos or ones that aren't even close to the awesome pheno that everyone wants.

If they work them properly, they could narrow down the need to search for a pheno & then it would basically be if you grow it properly, you will get this amazing result, no searching.

For instance, I bought HSO's Blue Dream. In another thread ppl are saying some of the pheno's aren't great. However, there is a Blueberry/Silver pheno that tastes like a Blueberry Haze, that is the absolute keeper pheno that everyone wants. It doesn't appear that a lot of people get that pheno though.

For a strain to be released, I would like no more than 3 pheno possibilities…and a percentage breakdown of the possibility of having each pheno….that would influence my purchase big time if they were able to do this. I know it's possible & realize it takes time, but theres some strains that have been out since the mid-late 90's that this hasn't happened with yet, due to the breeder not giving a fuck.
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Understand where you coming from bro as St0w said its not profitable for breeders to do that and I've grown the HSO Blue Dream and had that pheno you talking about its very good but those are fems remember so there aren't gonna be exact replicas of the mom cus that's what the pollinating it with a reversed mom. That's why there's different phenos in these. You should be able to find a decent one as I got it in 1 pick n mix seed from Attitude. Plus you have to remember everyone can't bring out the best in these plants so there will be some negative reviews. Grow it for yourself. If you get a pack of it I'm sure you will get something good. HSO has good fem beans but Im staying away from the fems for a while now.
 
BigEasy1

BigEasy1

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heelzballer said:
To start, I think more strains need to strive for a more balanced ratio between all the cannabinoids, particularly CBD...If they could figure out in more detail how the actual "high" works in the brain relative to the duration of the high, perhaps they could extend the high, and thus less need to medicate...

Other than those, perhaps we can begin to figure out how much EXACT genetics are expressed in hybrids, and polyhybrids allowing for a more detailed expectation of results..Instead of simple 60/40 hybrid, maybe see it in a closer genetic match, especially with more and more polyhybrid breeding.
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I think you will see more XXL breeds in the auto flower market. I believe the auto flower market is going to keep making huge leaps as far as yield and potency go. Relative novices can now pull 100 grams trimmed and dried now per plant where it used to be 30-40 grams.
 
BigEasy1

BigEasy1

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King Arthur said:
What do you think will be the thing that makes a seed company stand out?

There are a lot of companies sharing cuts and there are tons of great strains already on the market. What will it take for them to get your dollar?

I know I just ordered enough seeds for the next 3 years lol so unless it is something crazy awesome I won't even get the slightest tickle to go for it.
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One other point: I did like you did two years ago and placed a huge seed order for a few different reasons. One was for stealth (don't like taking multiple chances) and another reason was the freebies. To make a long story short, there are newer and better choices available today. I'm going to run them all but wish now I wouldn't have ordered so many because of the advances in quality over the last two years.
 
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