House Republicans vote to cut Social Security for 11 million Disabled Americans

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NoDrama

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
Maybe you should tell those 2000 people that die every year waiting to be approved just how easy it is to get. Oh wait, you can't, they're dead.
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So are you saying that waiting killed these people? Or the fact they didn't have disability kill them? Or was it because they died?
 
FlyLikeAnEagle

FlyLikeAnEagle

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ChesusRice said:
I know a whole family of disability deadbeats. Anthony the guy who used to live next store gets disability for his bad back, I used to think of that everytime I seen him on his trampoline.

Not everyone on disability is a fraud though, the majority of them are disabled
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Actually it is less than 1%.

Former Bush Administration Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue explained on MSNBC's All In with Chris Hayes that fraud constitutes less than 1 percent of the outlays of Supplemental Security Income, one of the federal benefit programs for individuals with disabilities.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
Actually it is less than 1%.

Former Bush Administration Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue explained on MSNBC's All In with Chris Hayes that fraud constitutes less than 1 percent of the outlays of Supplemental Security Income, one of the federal benefit programs for individuals with disabilities.
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1% is all?

but that one person knows a guy.
 
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NoDrama

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I love how some get bent out of shape because 2000 people die each year while waiting to get disability, but then dismiss the 110,000 people who fraudulently get disability each year as small potatoes and beneath caring due to its tiny tiny impact.

That's like being a hypocrite.
 
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schuylaar

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats appear to have little recourse against a House of Representatives rule change that could prompt a steep cut to Social Security disability benefits next year, congressional aides said on Monday.

The new legislative rule, pushed through with little notice last week, would prohibit a routine transfer to the Social Security Disability Trust Fund, which is expected to be depleted by late 2016.

Without an injection from the main Social Security retirement fund, the disability program would have to cut benefits by some 20 percent, only paying out what it can collect from payroll taxes.

Congress approved the last such "reallocation" transfer in 1994 after several in the 1980s under President Ronald Reagan.

Republicans say they passed the rule change to force reforms to the disability program, which they claim is rife with fraud and mismanagement. Democrats, unable to stop the shift, have called it a "stealth" move to cut benefits.

On Monday, Senate Democrats issued a plea to Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to oppose an "audacious" rule change that would "hold hostage" benefits for some 9 million disabled Americans.

"It only increases the chances of yet another unnecessary manufactured crisis, akin to shutting down the government or threatening the full faith and credit of the United States," Richard Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Senate Democrat, and seven others wrote in a letter to McConnell. They asked him to "forcibly reject" the change.

McConnell has not commented on the request, but Republican aides say there is little he can do about a legislative rule passed in the House. Since revenue measures must originate in the House, the House rule would ensure that a routine transfer could not take place.

A Democratic aide on the House Ways and Means Committee acknowledged that not much can be done about the rule change until 2016, when the disability fund is close to depletion and an election-year showdown over benefit cuts could occur.

Republican Representative Sam Johnson, of Texas, who authored the rule change, said it was meant to protect Social Security retirement benefits from being "raided" by the "fraud-plagued disability program" and to encourage reforms.


Little recourse seen for Democrats on Social Security rule change - Yahoo News
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never get past the president..he's gonna veto everything and already gave them marching orders today on keystone.
 
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schuylaar

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ChesusRice said:
I know a whole family of disability deadbeats. Anthony the guy who used to live next store gets disability for his bad back, I used to think of that everytime I seen him on his trampoline.

Not everyone on disability is a fraud though, the majority of them are disabled
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OMG! they moved?..i remember you telling us..didn't they steal from your gas (like when it was $6.99/gal) can by the shed and you put some shit in it for the next:lol:
 
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schuylaar

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NoDrama said:
I love how some get bent out of shape because 2000 people die each year while waiting to get disability, but then dismiss the 110,000 people who fraudulently get disability each year as small potatoes and beneath caring due to its tiny tiny impact.

That's like being a hypocrite.
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see your quote in my sig.

how do you know they're fraudulent? you don't know that.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
Do you use roads? How about energy? Airports? All of these and much more infrastructure was built through government involvement and is maintained the same way. Do you benefit from a safe and stable environment to go to work and do business? That would be defense spending.

The notion that government is automatically bad is categorically wrong and is only advanced by those who would seek to control government for their own ends and not the common good.
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The notion that a COERCIVE government is categorically bad is my point.

Also your last statement might be drawing a conclusion, without considering all of the potential reasons a person could hold that belief.
 
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schuylaar

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ChesusRice said:
Yeah they moved to SC last year to be with the 400lb disability mom
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i'm sure she has a double-wide and mom being that heavy is prolly on deaths door, so you know what that means?

you guessed it! that's right! gotta catch the disability checks after she kicks.

ain't no one gotta know:wink:
 
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NoDrama

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schuylaar said:
see your quote in my sig.

how do you know they're fraudulent? you don't know that.
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there are 11 million people in disability. The GOVERNMENT and your hero Bucky have stated that 1% of the people receiving disability are doing so fraudulently.
The rest is math hun.

What does your sig have to do with Disability?
 
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NoDrama

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Rob Roy said:
The notion that a COERCIVE government is categorically bad is my point.

Also your last statement might be drawing a conclusion, without considering all of the potential reasons a person could hold that belief.
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but, but, but, don't you know that using roads is your tacit approval of everything government does????
 
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ChesusRice

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schuylaar said:
i'm sure she has a double-wide and mom being that heavy is prolly on deaths door, so you know what that means?

you guessed it! that's right! gotta catch the disability checks after she kicks.

ain't no one gotta know:wink:
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1 mail gets forwarded
2 unless I shovel their walk the mail man won't deliver
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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I dont think we can get back to fair debates until both sides stop mis-representing issues.

The Republicans have not cut anything, they simply removed the automatic increase.

We as the USA cannot keep funding everything and going deeper into debt as the result will be a crash and the funding of nothing.
 
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NoDrama

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NLXSK1 said:
I dont think we can get back to fair debates until both sides stop mis-representing issues.

The Republicans have not cut anything, they simply removed the automatic increase.

We as the USA cannot keep funding everything and going deeper into debt as the result will be a crash and the funding of nothing.
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But But But a democrat said they made cuts and then another said Obama was going to Veto it.
I want to see Obama Veto something that isn't a bill, Skylar says it can be done.
 
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