and now you sir are a "Climate Denier"True stories, as best we can tell. Agreed on the fear mongering, people do need to be aware it's actually occurring though. I'm happy that most people have stopped arguing whether climate change is occurring or not.
Is it humanity's fault? probably not in the greater part. Do we have anything to do with it? Most certainly, just the respiration of 7.2+ billion people is bound to have some effects, then add to that, all of the other stuff we add to or remove from the natural system. A system so vast and complicated that we remain very far from being able to understand it well enough to give any definitive answer or affect it intentionally. Well at least and get the intended results.
Not according to the vast majority of climate scientists.Is it humanity's fault? probably not in the greater part.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021513-644725-geoscientists-engineers-dont-believe-in-climate-change.htmNot according to the vast majority of climate scientists.
That would be a factor. Since the ice caps are melting as a result of heat, it is very probably that the rising heat of the oceans also causes thermal expansion. Both are caused by increasing CO2 in the atmosphere.if it has been proven the polar ice caps are melting..then wouldn't that raise sea level?
and now you sir are a "Climate Denier"
your position will be transmuted through the alchemy of fallacious argument into the absurd proposition that human action has zero influence on the climate.
since this strawman is easily refuted, that will be used, through the false dilemma fallacy, to conclude the absurd assumption that the climate became static back in 1970 and thus any "change" is the result of evil humans and their even eviler corporations and "Teh 1%" must be true.
the fact remains MOST scientists agree that human action has had SOME effect on the climate, but the greater portion of the effects we see are the result of natural forces.
over a timeline of ~8000 years, "anthropogenic climate change" becomes vanishingly small, but we have to shit bricks and panic, cuz "the polar bears R going extinct!" (which is entirely false, BTW, there are more of those trash eating snow monsters now than ever before in recorded history)
but but but... teh penguins!!
PROJECTIONS claim that 100 years from now penguins "may be threatend" but only after (according to thoise same projections) the penguin population will grow alarmingly for the next century
this shit makes no goddamned sense.
LOL forbes.even the alarmists who drive the agenda dont believe their own hype.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/02/05/in-their-own-words-climate-alarmists-debunk-their-science/
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i wonder what this ^^ will be called in 20 years"climate change":
it HAS been proved that the northern ice cap is melting, and has been doing so for 12000 years (it used to stretch down past NYC and San Francisco)if it has been proven the polar ice caps are melting..then wouldn't that raise sea level?
No. Most scientists agree that human activity has a significant effect on the climate and is the prime suspect in the Earths recent (increasing) warming. In other words, the warming is "unequivocally manmade"the fact remains MOST scientists agree that human action has had SOME effect on the climate, but the greater portion of the effects we see are the result of natural forces.
Argument from incredulitythis shit makes no goddamned sense.
lol ad hominem.LOL forbes.
They have been accused several times by the climate scientists they were paraphrasing of libel. You could not have posted a more biased denier rag.
No, I discredited your authority with fact. This would hold up in court and is not simply an insult to avoid your argument.lol ad hominem.
Citations from major scientific academies and peer reviewed research? What the fuck is this shit? Facts?No. Most scientists agree that human activity has a significant effect on the climate and is the prime suspect in the Earths recent (increasing) warming. In other words, the warming is "unequivocally manmade"
"Indeed, strong observational evidence and results from modeling studies indicate that, at least over the last 50 years, human activities are a major contributor to climate change." -American Meteorological Society
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." -U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring." -International academies
"Despite increasing consensus on the science underpinning predictions of global climate change, doubts have been expressed recently about the need to mitigate the risks posed by global climate change. We do not consider such doubts justified." -International academies
"Most of the recent warming can be attributed to fossil fuel burning and other human activities that release carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere." -National Research Council of the National Academies
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/scientific-consensus-on.html#.VLxABUejN8E
Argument from incredulity
and which one of those quotes argues (as you insist) that human activity is the dominat cause of "climate change"?No. Most scientists agree that human activity has a significant effect on the climate and is the prime suspect in the Earths recent (increasing) warming. In other words, the warming is "unequivocally manmade"
"Indeed, strong observational evidence and results from modeling studies indicate that, at least over the last 50 years, human activities are a major contributor to climate change." -American Meteorological Society
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." -U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring." -International academies
"Despite increasing consensus on the science underpinning predictions of global climate change, doubts have been expressed recently about the need to mitigate the risks posed by global climate change. We do not consider such doubts justified." -International academies
"Most of the recent warming can be attributed to fossil fuel burning and other human activities that release carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere." -National Research Council of the National Academies
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/scientific-consensus-on.html#.VLxABUejN8E
Argument from incredulity
With this crowd? Nah.and now you sir are a "Climate Denier"
your position will be transmuted through the alchemy of fallacious argument into the absurd proposition that human action has zero influence on the climate.
"i insist forbes was wrong on something previously (vague, dubious and even if true, irrelevant) so they are automatically wrong about this shit too, by default"No, I discredited your authority with fact. This would hold up in court and is not simply an insult to avoid your argument.
All of them. Every leading scientific organization in the world says human activity is the leading factor of the (increased) climate change we're experiencing todayand which one of those quotes argues (as you insist) that human activity is the dominat cause of "climate change"?
You said it doesn't make any sense to you, so it's not surprising an explanation wouldn't suffice.. You don't believe the explanation, so of course you think they lied. The problem is you don't understand how scientific investigation works or realize that your belief isn't required for accurate conclusions based on evidence to be made.and no, "argument from incredulity" only applies if the fallacy wielder argues "we cant know"
i am arguing that in fact the left has LIED, since their polar bear extinction claim is patently false, and their penguin projections are contradictory and speculative.