Islam can dish it out, but can't take it
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Rob Roy
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Are you opposed to using force against peaceful people is the question you are avoiding. The answer is obvious despite your frantic dancing.
Presumably you oppose capitalism and war because of the inherent force?
On one hand you say that you oppose war (force). On the other hand you sure do like the benefit you derive from it.
George Orwell called, it was a weak connection (he's dead remember?) but I think I heard him say something about, "some pigs being more equal than others".
Rob Roy
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Does that mean when you accept money taken via force you'd like it evenly stolen from all races?
skunkd0c
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abandonconflict
Perhaps you are suggesting
A black employer would never hire a black man over a white man
A black man could never become an employer because of white privilege
nepotism also does not exist in the workplace
If a black employer were to hire a black man over a white man based on race
would this be "black privilege" ?
Perhaps you are suggesting
A black employer would never hire a black man over a white man
A black man could never become an employer because of white privilege
nepotism also does not exist in the workplace
If a black employer were to hire a black man over a white man based on race
would this be "black privilege" ?
abandonconflict
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You think white people aren't privileged on earth in 2015. Don't even try to act like you know what equality means.
abandonconflict
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Actually, I suggested nothing about black employers. That would be argumentum ad absurdem, a fallacy.
skunkd0c
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Unless you can prove 100% that a black employer has never chosen a black person over another race
your claim of 100% white privilege is invalid
now if you were able to see the world outside of this "black and white" style of thinking
and accept that people are individuals and their experiences vary, i think we could agree on some points
abandonconflict
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George Orwell was opposed to capitalism too. hmm
abandonconflict
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I like how you add the %100 percent, as if you have been arguing all along that some white privilege exists, and that I am disagreeing with this in favor of %100. You're a good liar. However, your argument is a fallacy even with out the distortions. It is called argumentum ad absurdem.
skunkd0c
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what you should say is some racism exists, and some prejudice exists, and any race can experience this
what you claim instead is "ALL" white people experience privilege, this is inaccurate
Rob Roy
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I oppose capitalism that is the phony crony kind. You'd be more accurate if you described me as a free market enthusiast, where buyer and seller, not a coercive uninvolved third party, determine the nature of their interaction on a consensual basis.
Is the money you receive acquired via consent or coercion is another question you'd like to avoid.
How did Orwell feel about some pigs partying with the men, while the others did all the work?
I feel a little like I'm kicking you when you're down now as your hypocrisy is so blatant, I've started to feel a little bad for you. Then I scratch my thick and lustrous beard and wonder if you have a neck beard. Does your government check cover facial hair implants?
abandonconflict
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You said that even using the words white privilege is racist. That means you not only deny the existence, you're offended by the notion. No, you're the absolutist.
abandonconflict
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It is capitalism and you love capitalism. You never shut up about private property. That's capitalism. Don't try to disown the inevitable results of it, which is a state.
skunkd0c
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White people in south Africa experienced "white privilege"
i have not experienced white privilege
if only you could get the better of your polarized thinking two choice dichotomy
Jimdamick
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abandonconflict
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They probably denied white privilege existed too, just like you. I bet they even said that using the words white privilege was racist. In fact, I bet they loved hearing black women express lament at not having been born white men.
You sure you're not South African?
skunkd0c
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Why do you not accept that i have not experienced privilege ?
Why do you believe all white people experience this ?
you must be aware that in the UK we are about 20-30 years ahead of your country on race relations
even so i am certain that many american white people have not experienced white privilege
Rob Roy
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And the labor of the black woman that you claim to respect is not her property?
Why do you parasite the fruit of her labor, with or without her consent to fund your trips abroad, while spending your idle time arguing with people that point out your obvious hyposcrisy?
There's a BIG difference between us. I think that woman owns her body AND her labor. I don't want her money unless she gives it to me in a consensual exchange. You, on the other hand are willing to take her money using force and then have the gall to say you oppose war.
I take back what I said earlier. A smart guy would have realized his obvious hypocrisy by now and admitted it. Now, I do feel bad for you.
skunkd0c
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abandonconflict
some white people and some black people may favor their own races, this could lead to both "black privilege" and "white privilege" for some individuals
note i use the term "some" you speak in absolutes because you have trapped yourself inside a polarized thinking box
some white people and some black people may favor their own races, this could lead to both "black privilege" and "white privilege" for some individuals
note i use the term "some" you speak in absolutes because you have trapped yourself inside a polarized thinking box
abandonconflict
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You're the one who advocates for the rights of land owners to extract the value of labor from workers while paying an hourly wage.