First time DWC

Jimdamick

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Personally, my best teacher was failure. I could have given up, or try, and try again. A bunch of dead plants later, once I finally got my shit together (never will happen), started to produce good herb. It took, and is still taken years, to come close to mastering this CRAFT (fuck beer, any asshole can do that shit). It's like building ships in bottles. It looks easy, but it's not.
 

Jimdamick

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I love growing in soil, but until I can find a soil available locally that can guarantee it is pathogen free, or have the area to properly sterilize, then recolonize soil, myself, I will never bring so much as a cup of earth into my house....so I'm going hydro. I had to do a extinction level event once because a bag of soil from a well known company infected my whole house with gnats. After battling the little bastards for a month, everything was tore down, thrown out/burned, sterilized and restarted..took me 6+ months just to recover, I lost all my fresh herbs, a couple african violets, a vine off some sort i had nursed back to health and was overtaking my porch, a small avacado tree, and a couple spider plants that went through at least 3 generations of my family, not to mention a half dozen babys i was getting ready to put out for the summer.
That wasn't a fungus gnat that killed all those plants, they can't do that. Fucking mites, yes, absolutely. But not a gnat, unless it is some super kick ass gnat. Mostly a gnat will fuck with your roots, but in the short time a pot plant is alive, the root growth will outpace the little bastards. I have found them to be just be an annoyance. Yellow sticky traps work for the adults, or Gnatrol which will kill the eggs at the root. It's a long process to kill the eggs, like a month. Sticky trap the shit out of the (Safer traps are the best) little bastards. That's my advice.
 

WeedFreak78

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That wasn't a fungus gnat that killed all those plants, they can't do that. Fucking mites, yes, absolutely. But not a gnat, unless it is some super kick ass gnat. Mostly a gnat will fuck with your roots, but in the short time a pot plant is alive, the root growth will outpace the little bastards. I have found them to be just be an annoyance. Yellow sticky traps work for the adults, or Gnatrol which will kill the eggs at the root. It's a long process to kill the eggs, like a month. Sticky trap the shit out of the (Safer traps are the best) little bastards. That's my advice.
Little black flying bugs that come out of the soil when you water/shake the pot, thought those were gnats? I had the yellow sticky traps, tried sand on top of the soil, DE, neem, some other more toxic stuff. The gnats may not have actually killed anything but they were the reason I killed everything and started over.

Mostly a gnat will fuck with your roots, but in the short time a pot plant is alive, the root growth will outpace the little bastards
I used to start plants in dec/jan, usually on a window or under indirect lighting, and prune,train,abuse them bonsai style in small pots, until april/may when they could go outside, so they were alive long enough for them to really take hold.
 

Jimdamick

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Little black flying bugs that come out of the soil when you water/shake the pot, thought those were gnats? I had the yellow sticky traps, tried sand on top of the soil, DE, neem, some other more toxic stuff. The gnats may not have actually killed anything but they were the reason I killed everything and started over.



I used to start plants in dec/jan, usually on a window or under indirect lighting, and prune,train,abuse them bonsai style in small pots, until april/may when they could go outside, so they were alive long enough for them to really take hold.
You really don't have to worry about those VERY ANNOYING little pieces of shit. Just stickey plant stake the fuck out of them. I usually use 2 per pot, they last for months, and you get the enjoyment of watching the little fucks DIE. That and a biological are they only way to go. I had soil come in that was infested with those motherfuckers, and they do hang around. I have a drip system now, and the little pricks have started in my rockwool, but if you enzyme the shit out of the medium, stickey them, you will win the battle. Never surrender, take no prisoners, and you will beat the mighty fungus gnat. (maybe)
 
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I know water is the chemical compound H2O, I was unaware, more likely forgot, that the definition for an organic compound was that it had to contain carbon, I'd be willing to bet the majority of people would assume water was organic. I've been out of school for over 15yrs now, there's lot of stuff I've forgotten, or just didn't pay attention to back then. I excelled in algebra and calculus back then, now i have to write out long division sometimes....when you don't use the knowledge all the time it fades away. 3rd grade science has been loooooong gone...but thanks for being so righteous..:clap:
are you joking .water isnt organic, it blows me away.that is the most stupid thing i have heard in a long time.wow.!
 

HempletonState

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Personally, my best teacher was failure. I could have given up, or try, and try again. A bunch of dead plants later, once I finally got my shit together (never will happen), started to produce good herb. It took, and is still taken years, to come close to mastering this CRAFT (fuck beer, any asshole can do that shit). It's like building ships in bottles. It looks easy, but it's not.
couldnt agree with this post anymore. i have been growing hydro for over 10 years and i started from day one with dwc and never found it to be that difficult. i did a bunch of reading on the topic was able to figure the most important things ppm, temps, atmosphere etc. and started on my way. There have been many great grows where i killed it, and a few that sucked that taught me more then anything else. these sites are awesome but also can be very counterproductive to a new grower. To many people pushing what they believe to be the truth and others attacking what they say and calling them morons and wrong, who is to know who is right and who is wrong. Like i said before i have been growing for over a decade and definitely would say i have a pretty good handle on what i am doing monster yeilds and super high quality buds but i would never say i am an expert or that i dont have much more to learn or tell someone they are wrong for how they do something. Trial and error is the best way and only way you are going to learn. Make sure everything is clean, check your plants everyday, spend the time to perfect the atmosphere in the room, make sure you have good air movement, and that your ph is on point. i know money is always a big issue but if you spend the money on the right things ie nutes, life is made alot easier. I have always used house and garden aqua flakes and their additives which many say is overpriced on this site but i have never worried about water temps or root rot, ph problems once it is set its set. again thats how i do it doesnt mean its the only way or the right way or the best way , its simply just the way i do it
 

chuck estevez

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nitrogen is organic.comon guy im trying to stop laughing at how retarded this post is.
maybe stop laughing and reread the post.Nowhere did I say N was organic, I SAID, plants use inorganic nutrients too, Like IRON, BORON, COPPER,ETC. reading comprehension my friend.
seems your post is about as retarded as it gets.:dunce:
 
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WeedFreak78

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are you joking .water isnt organic, it blows me away.that is the most stupid thing i have heard in a long time.wow.!
the water is organic so guess you take that out,to each his own but,to say avoid anything organic .is vauge.like water,air,?no dis respect i grow in dirt.seems to me root rot is usually from not enough oxygen ,of fusariam virus.
WTF, how stupid are you? or are you just a troll?
 

fatalphenom

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Hey Errrrybody. Just wanted to give a little progress check. Since Posting this i've only changed two things my res. temps are now kept between 60-65 give or take some hours… and stopped using SugaDaddy In my nute schedule (starting to question this) . My roots are doing great. However i've encountered one problem and Idk what may be causing it help?? Pictures below
What made you stop using SugarDaddy? I've been using it in low doses in my DWC buckets without any issue. After switching to flower I think I'll substitute Bud Candy for the Sugar Daddy; just something about it that I like and fortunately so do the plants lol. I've also got a DWC grow going on and using Technaflora BC. My favorite is the Root 66 and Awesome Blossoms. At times I felt that Ive over done it on doses when mixing my nutrient solution, but I have yet to see burn in anything. Best of luck with the rest of your grow. Stop by my journal and check out my buckets.
 
What made you stop using SugarDaddy? I've been using it in low doses in my DWC buckets without any issue. After switching to flower I think I'll substitute Bud Candy for the Sugar Daddy; just something about it that I like and fortunately so do the plants lol. I've also got a DWC grow going on and using Technaflora BC. My favorite is the Root 66 and Awesome Blossoms. At times I felt that Ive over done it on doses when mixing my nutrient solution, but I have yet to see burn in anything. Best of luck with the rest of your grow. Stop by my journal and check out my buckets.

Thanks man really appreciated, will do. Honeslty I didn't have many problems with it while I was using it but I read up and most said not to .. I just switched to flowering and i'm very tempted to mix a little in there.
 

ttystikk

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I watched the sugar feed an explosion of microbes and eat up all the oxygen. NOT a good outcome.
 

fatalphenom

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I watched the sugar feed an explosion of microbes and eat up all the oxygen. NOT a good outcome.
Ill have to watch for that as well. I ran out of Sugar daddy so i havent used any the last two weeks. I added a tablespoon to about 4 gallons of water just saturday so Ill keep an eye out.
 

fatalphenom

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Thanks man really appreciated, will do. Honeslty I didn't have many problems with it while I was using it but I read up and most said not to .. I just switched to flowering and i'm very tempted to mix a little in there.
If not Sugar Daddy I'd use Bud Candy. Thats just my opinion of course. The Bud Candy won't stain your roots and raise false alarms when you're trying to avoid slime or root rot. Its winter where Im from so the buckets setting on a cement basment floor help keep them cool for my situation.
 
Just a little progress check in. She's switched into flowering with no problems.. Crazy amount of growth. Showing and everything looks great :bigjoint: Still haven't added Hydroguard or Benes just water between 55-65 degrees. Yheww! 20150126_124945.jpg20150126_131348.jpg 20150126_125159.jpg 20150126_124923.jpg
 
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