400 or 600 hps?

panhead

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Lucky bastards you guys are to have major shops and access like that. Not only are we limited to small scale shops scattered here and there, we barely even have online or mail order facilities in Australia, and our eBay is flooded with either stuff in China/Hong Kong or its nothing but GrowLush products, and only thing that I can even remotely say I like from GrowLush is their over priced OG light hood. Even our selection of nutrients is slim picking compared to US/Canada, we don't have Humbolt products, or Fox Farm products, we just got Advanced Nutrient products across the borders but really don't want to call that bragging rights (not into the their marketing campaign). I read forum post after forum post on this forum and others (except GC as I was banned) and either wish I could try some of the products the Ameicans or Canadians talk about or sometimes I have no clue as to what the product is that I have to go Google and get the info from websites.

So bring HTG to Australia, I will be in the top 5 customers, lol
That sucks , htg has everything any grower needs but their prices on nutrients suck & alot of other products are so so priced , where they excell is in lighting & inline fans , i have 1 of their store fronts a half hour from me but i use the online store instead .

Its much easier for me to have UPS lug around that crap & plop it on my porch .
 

dbkick

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2 x 400w HPS + 64w of 6500k + 64w of 10% UVB Reptile bulbs.

Agree with all the 2x400w opinions above, just need to supplement HPS for better quality weed.
2 315 lec and forget the uvb bulbs,
Fuck you'd think I work for philips the way I push the 315, Sun systems lec 315. Great light UV built in, low wattage , little heat
Hate to break it to ya but almost everything is a Made in China rebrand. Solis-tek, Galaxy, Apollo, iPower, Lumatek, almost every brand you can think of is just bought in bulk from some Chinese manuf. and shipped overseas by a 20 ft container on a ship.

You can find all of these unrebranded ballasts for pretty cheap, usually half the price on alibaba.com

I'm going to repost a quote from an erlier post I wrote...
Solis Tek is made entirely in Japan which is a slight step up from chinese stuff. Solis lamps are made by Sunpulse, where they're based I don't know and don't really care, they make shitty lamps.
 

nomofatum

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2 315 lec and forget the uvb bulbs,
Fuck you'd think I work for philips the way I push the 315, Sun systems lec 315. Great light UV built in, low wattage , little heat


Solis Tek is made entirely in Japan which is a slight step up from chinese stuff. Solis lamps are made by Sunpulse, where they're based I don't know and don't really care, they make shitty lamps.
Are you using single glass bulbs and an open fixture? That to my understanding is the only way CMH will give any UVB worth considering. The second layer of glass pretty much kills what is left of the UVB. And without the second layer of glass you have to at least consider the risk if a bulb fails catastrophically.

I have tanning bulbs + CMH + LED.
 

dbkick

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That sucks , htg has everything any grower needs but their prices on nutrients suck & alot of other products are so so priced , where they excell is in lighting & inline fans , i have 1 of their store fronts a half hour from me but i use the online store instead .

Its much easier for me to have UPS lug around that crap & plop it on my porch .
htg doesn't have the sun systems lec 315 :P
They lack in cmh, only a couple options , and why are those options so cheap
Are you using single glass bulbs and an open fixture? That to my understanding is the only way CMH will give any UVB worth considering. The second layer of glass pretty much kills what is left of the UVB. And without the second layer of glass you have to at least consider the risk if a bulb fails catastrophically.

I have tanning bulbs + CMH + LED.
Google it and see, a lot of the results mention "Higher amounts of beneficial UV and far red spectrums increase the lamps growth"
 
2 315 lec and forget the uvb bulbs,
Solis Tek is made entirely in Japan which is a slight step up from chinese stuff. Solis lamps are made by Sunpulse, where they're based I don't know and don't really care, they make shitty lamps.
Sorry dude, but I definitely know for a fact that Jayo Technology makes the Solis-tek ballasts as well as the Galaxy Matrix ballasts among other ones.

If you go to the Jayo Tech link you can see they literally list Solis-tek as one of their brand names.

http://tinajayotech.en.ec21.com/

They definitely mislead people about their ballasts being made in Japan. If you look at their website, it specifically says they have COMPONENTS manufactured in Japan - likely their capacitors but those typically cost pennies and dimes and are found on any electronic device - one of the few things the Chinese copies are bad for because they've been known to explode.
 

nomofatum

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Google it and see, a lot of the results mention "Higher amounts of beneficial UV and far red spectrums increase the lamps growth"
Look at the specific bulb you have, find it's data sheet, then if you add any more glass figure out what percentage of the UVB that reduces you by again. It's going to be way less than you would experience in the hindu kush mountains. I'm hitting at or higher than hindu kush mountain levels.
 
BTW if I remember right, cannabis plants typically grow more resin when exposed to high amounts of UV-B especially during the seedling/cutting stage. UV-A I don't believe is too essential or even helpful though I could be wrong.

Also, I'm including a conversation I had with Jayo-Tech who literally turned me away and told me to contact Solis-tek who is their distributor in the U.S. on alibaba a while back.

A conversation with Solis-tek confirmed my findings when pressed about the source of their ballasts after I called telling them what I found on alibaba.
 

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BAMS

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Hate to break it to ya but almost everything is a Made in China rebrand. Solis-tek, Galaxy, Apollo, iPower, Lumatek, almost every brand you can think of is just bought in bulk from some Chinese manuf. and shipped overseas by a 20 ft container on a ship.

You can find all of these unrebranded ballasts for pretty cheap, usually half the price on alibaba.com

I'm going to repost a quote from an erlier post I wrote...
I am aware of all the rebadging of chinese products, but I don't think that the Chinese make all the nutrients, additives, etc etc that are out there, actually I am quite positive they don't. Mentioning just the lights is just a small fraction of all the other gear, nutes, and accessories out there.
 

BAMS

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though just after posting my previous post, I see the chit chat about UV lighting. If you can get your hands on NEC T10 lighting I would recommend that for UV supplamenting
 

nomofatum

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BTW if I remember right, cannabis plants typically grow more resin when exposed to high amounts of UV-B especially during the seedling/cutting stage. UV-A I don't believe is too essential or even helpful though I could be wrong.
I don't think you want to expose when seedling/cutting, just in flower for UVB benefits. UVA is useful for stem growth, it helps build big stems for big bud support.
 
I am aware of all the rebadging of chinese products, but I don't think that the Chinese make all the nutrients, additives, etc etc that are out there, actually I am quite positive they don't. Mentioning just the lights is just a small fraction of all the other gear, nutes, and accessories out there.
You're correct - though if you want to go there all the nutrients are just a mix of various farming fertilizer mixed to various concentrations. You can literally remake your own for cheaper by looking at the MSDS and buying your own bulk chemicals if you wanted to - it's just easier/simpler to buy pre-mixed.

Fertilizers like Potassium Silicate you can buy for much cheaper from bulk farming stores rather than hydro places.

http://www.mbferts.com/Agsil-16H-Potassium-Silicate-Soluble-Silica-Powder-545.htm
 
I don't think you want to expose when seedling/cutting, just in flower for UVB benefits. UVA is useful for stem growth, it helps build big stems for big bud support.
I remember reading a study a long time back that exposure to UVB early in life will trigger the plant to produce resins later in life to protect itself from DNA damage and as they grow bigger but the UV lights really won't hit the plant hard enough to make a difference unless you surround the plant with them.
 

BAMS

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You're correct - though if you want to go there all the nutrients are just a mix of various farming fertilizer mixed to various concentrations. You can literally remake your own for cheaper by looking at the MSDS and buying your own bulk chemicals if you wanted to - it's just easier/simpler to buy pre-mixed.

Fertilizers like Potassium Silicate you can buy for much cheaper from bulk farming stores rather than hydro places.

http://www.mbferts.com/Agsil-16H-Potassium-Silicate-Soluble-Silica-Powder-545.htm

OK OK, I see you have every corner pinned. but what I am trying to get at is the limited availablity of everything across the board.....we can't get guanno, we have to smuggle superthrive in, we only just got allowed access to PGRs (though I don't use them). This isnt a "poor me" post, its just stating I personally would love a shop to browse and get lost in like HTG
 

dbkick

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Sorry dude, but I definitely know for a fact that Jayo Technology makes the Solis-tek ballasts as well as the Galaxy Matrix ballasts among other ones.

If you go to the Jayo Tech link you can see they literally list Solis-tek as one of their brand names.

http://tinajayotech.en.ec21.com/

They definitely mislead people about their ballasts being made in Japan. If you look at their website, it specifically says they have COMPONENTS manufactured in Japan - likely their capacitors but those typically cost pennies and dimes and are found on any electronic device - one of the few things the Chinese copies are bad for because they've been known to explode.
Galaxy Matrix?? Sounds like a lawsuit.
You may be right, I dug out a matrix box/ballast and there's not a word about where it's made. It may have been something I read on the webpage that they source japanese parts.
 

dbkick

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dbkick

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But anyway. lets face it, those little chinese kids can make some nice shit. or just shit.
 

dbkick

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although that's not a matrix knock off with the rotary knob, That must be a standard solis knock off.
 
The knob ballast is the standard Solis-tek 1000W ballast. Nowhere else do you see a ballast with LED indicators.

http://solis-tek.com/digital-ballasts/solistek-1000-digital-ballast.html

The "Matrix" series aren't knockoffs, they're literally the exact same thing with a different logo slapped on it.

http://solis-tek.com/digital-ballasts/matrix-1000-digital-ballast.html

http://www.galaxyballasts.com/products/digital-logic-ballast-series/1000-w-select-a-watt-turbo-charge.aspx

http://jayotech.en.alibaba.com/product/1898911358-220967512/remote_LCD_ballast_1000W.html#!

The knob ballast is a different model from the Matrix since you can see both pictures have the reflector input in the front.

By the way you can confirm this yourself with either Solis-tek by calling their support number or with Jayo-tech on alibaba.

Tony from Solis-tek confirmed when I called their support line and Mike on alibaba by telling me to go to their distributor (Solis-tek) in the U.S. - they literally turned away my request to "buy" 100 ballasts and to call Solis instead.
 
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