Pointers to growing in 5' high space.

TiffiCan

TiffiCan

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Could you give me some tips on how to grow in a place that does not have typical 8' feet height.

I have a 3x3x5 space that I want to use for one plant but I'm not sure how to take care of plant that will not make it reach all the way to light (LED)



I'm guessing pot will be 1 foot, around 20'' distance from plant to light for flowering and another 10'' for light and distance between light and ceiling for ventilation that leaves me with around 20-30'' for actuall plant.



How big of a pot should I use to limit the growth, 2gal should be fine ?

How to veg and determine when to switch to flowering ?
 
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az2000

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I have a 2x4x5' tall tent. I've been growing an autoflower in that tent, in a #3 (2.5gal) container. See this for a photo. I have to LST (low-stress train) when it stretches going into flower, bending taller shoots around to keep the canopy even.

I suggest grow a photosensitive but don't let it veg more than 3 weeks. This would be like "12/12 from seed" which is an alternative to autoflowers. Keep it small and see how it goes. Maybe "top" it at 3 weeks and let it veg longer if you have more horizontal space than vertical. (See mainlining).

You could grow an autoflower. It will veg and flower on its own. But, you'll pay 33% more for electricity. And, you won't have as much control. Sometimes autos don't flip to flower. They might veg longer and grow larger. If you do a photosensitive, you can flip it at exactly the size you're comfortable with. (You can also top it which you're not supposed to do to autos. Also plant the top as a clone, which autos can't do either.). I'm not trying to run down autos. I loved growing mine. They're just "fun" in some way. But, flipping a photosensitive early is pretty fun too.

The only other thing I'd recommend is: if you go LED be careful about choosing a diffuse fixture which you can get closer to the canopy (to conserve your limited vertical space). For example, a fixture using 3w diodes that are mounted on a white backboard can (should) be placed closer to the plant than a fixture with 5w diodes mounted in reflectors. Also, if you distribute the total watts of light around the plant as sidelighting, that can reduce the potential for burn/bleach at the top.
 
nomofatum

nomofatum

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5ft can grow a decent sized plant. Unless you are going with a strain that likes to stretch a lot in flower you should be able to run a few weeks then flip and fit in that space. Maximize your space by using wider and shorter buckets/pots and going with something more distributed like 3w LEDs or florescent lighting so you can grow right up to a few inches of the light. Side lighting with 0.5w LEDs or 1w leds or florescent would be awesome for your yield and quality of lower buds.

You don't want to limit growth by the pot size. You limit growth with veg time and limiting N in nutrients.
 
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Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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My old setup was 5 high 4.5 x 5

I used a custom (by me ) aero tray and buried my rez to gain height .

I ran 2 16 site sytems in a scrog fasion. With 1000k mixed spectrum bulb and a 90 w ufo.

I would usually get a 1lb and a half to close to 2 lbs (I know not even gpw but its a small space lol)

biggest thing is heat and environmental control in a little room withs hids anyway

hope this helps im working a lot but will help when I can :)
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Also I would only veg for 1 to 3 weeks depending on the strain im Running.

and for scrog I almost prefer a plant that has a LITTLE stretch to her
that way I can have a shorter veg time and still fill my scrog with plant sites as it stretches

edit also the reason for havin 2 16 sites instead of one 32 was for having different strains at the same time :)
 
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az2000

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Dr New New said:
Top it every 15 days of veg. Go bushy not tall.
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OP: also google for "main-lining by nugbuckets" on growweedeasy. That's topping with very specific instructions, tying down branches. That lets you veg longer to grow out horizontally. T

he cut tops can be planted as clones for a little additional yield. For example, if a clone is barely rooting at the time you go 12/12, it will be like "seed from 12/12" which some people do to get 10-20 grams or so from a plant. Might not be worth the trouble, but that's an option if you have space for a couple small plants in the corners.
 
Bucees

Bucees

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Another bump for scrog. Netting is a cheap and pain free method of keeping height in check. In the summer months when my heat is up I have to keep my ladies under netting for the first 2 weeks of flower. Low/mid 80's cause my strain to stretch like crazy.
 
dannyboy602

dannyboy602

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I wouldnt top it much...i would bend the branches down a lot even beyond the switch to 12/12. When it starts to flower like crazy then youve maxed out your height pretty much. LST is what I would do. Scrog is just a canopy control tecnique but that will work for you as well. Good luck.
 
nflguy

nflguy

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5 foot is plenty of room. I typically run 2 plants in that height. Just do some bending and tying down to keep the tops outta the light. Do your research to learn how much your strain will stretch after the switch. LST and SCROG works too, but don't sweat the height thing...its NOT a big deal
 
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bigsteve

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Before you start -- Pick a bushy indica strain. I suggest Blueberry Gum from G13 Labs via Attitude Seed Bank. When the seedling first goes into dirt use a pot that is as wide as it is tall. Using a 12/16 oz. solo cup tells the plant it's growing space is deep and narrow - so the plant tries to grow tall and slender. Count on transplanting at least twice. Here's why - newly transplanted plants will grow roots until the roots hit the pot walls. The plant will not expend energy growing bushier until the roots hit the pot. Therefor, you want to cut down on the time a plant spends growing it's proper rootball. You do that by TP'ing.

Topping is preferable to FIM'ing in this case as FIM'd plants tend to grow taller than those topped. In your case shorter is better, eh? I would top them at 2-3 weeks in dirt, around 6-8 inches. Let a plant rest at least 7 days after trimming before TP'ing to give her a chance to recuperate. Note: you can increase plant width by FIM'ing or topping the secondary colas during veg period. Every bud you trim off will be replaced by 2 slightly smaller buds in the same spot.

If you still have height issues well into flowering don't be afraid to simply bend the top over. You can tie it down but I prefer to actually break the stem and lean the top towards the light. As long as the branch is still attached the buds will continue to grow and thrice. You can also increase yield by bending tops as the plant has more space if buds grow perpendicular to the light source.

Some of this is pretty advanced for the newby forum, eh? There's a few of us OGs who circulate through the newby forum looking for a place to help out. Please accept my siggestions as one guys experience and not as gospel. These tactics work for me and I hope you can pick out a thing or 2 to help your grow.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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Bending is ok my opinion snapping should be avoided if late into flower.

As for strains dont be afaid I did a 13 week haze in mine lmao it was great.

I personally prefer a hybrid for this type of grow
 
tokingtiger

tokingtiger

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tightpockt said:
5 feet is plenty of room...just scrog it. You'll have about 3 feet from the top of the plant to the 'ceiling'
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this guy has your right answer. you can have one plant in a 7-10 gal pot scrogged out all over that tent. get some 4x4 wire fence and lay it horizontal in your area. good luck and enjoy.
 
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