Left wing hatchet job on Rand Paul

AlecTheGardener

AlecTheGardener

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ginwilly said:
I have my small pox immunization scar still. Turns out that shit doesn't keep me immune anymore but I won't get another until it becomes part of employment.
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They last 10+/- one or two years. I doubt many places would ever need a small pox vaccination ever again unless it becomes weaponized in the future and readily available.

Most people only get them from military service now. That is a SERIOUS vaccination also, a friend of mine ended up having a heart attack due to his. He was 25 at the time.

I remember treating service members who transmitted it to their faces, one fellow got it in his eye.

Ever get an anthrax vaccination? It stings worse then rocephin. Six or five in that series. It forms a 'knot' at the site underneath, like getting slugged by Tyson in the arm for two days.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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AlecTheGardener said:
They last 10+/- one or two years. I doubt many places would ever need a small pox vaccination ever again unless it becomes weaponized in the future and readily available.

Most people only get them from military service now. That is a SERIOUS vaccination also, a friend of mine ended up having a heart attack due to his. He was 25 at the time.

I remember treating service members who transmitted it to their faces, one fellow got it in his eye.

Ever get an anthrax vaccination? It stings worse then rocephin. Six or five in that series. It forms a 'knot' at the site underneath, like getting slugged by Tyson in the arm for two days.
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I had the small pox one at 4 and don't really remember much about it. Never had to have the anthrax one thank Paul but I remember having to get caught up for college and having the MMR, a flu shot and something else all the same day and it messed me up pretty bad.

I've probably had 20+ flu shots and only 2 bad reactions. By bad, I mean fevery and achy for a couple of days, nothing serious.
 
OddBall1st

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The hatchet should be buried, buried in Rand Pauls head. If you look at him long enough, you will see the face mom warned you about.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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AlecTheGardener said:
They last 10+/- one or two years. I doubt many places would ever need a small pox vaccination ever again unless it becomes weaponized in the future and readily available.

Most people only get them from military service now. That is a SERIOUS vaccination also, a friend of mine ended up having a heart attack due to his. He was 25 at the time.

I remember treating service members who transmitted it to their faces, one fellow got it in his eye.

Ever get an anthrax vaccination? It stings worse then rocephin. Six or five in that series. It forms a 'knot' at the site underneath, like getting slugged by Tyson in the arm for two days.
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I had the small pox vaccine around 1963. Chicago public schools used to have vac teams come in and do everybody. I had it again in 2006, also had the entire Anthrax set. The Anthrax vaccines didn't really bother me very much. The small pox vaccination is a trial by fire though.
 
Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Says the guy who thinks pedophilia is consensual but compares taxes and having to sell things to black people with rape.

Inb4 my VA disability gets compared to rape.
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You seem to be having a meltdown. Don't get any on your check, the government doesn't like to have to issue a second one, it costs them money....no wait.


I think pedophilia is abhorrent, that doesn't mean you couldn't make a voluntary abhorrent agreement though does it? For instance you could make a voluntary agreement with a coercive confiscatory authority to accept money they steal. Score one.

Taxes are similar to rape in that they both rely on force to implement. Score two.

Selling anything to anybody should be a consensual transaction. When people are forced to associate....isn't that the same basis that slavery uses? In both instances people are forced to associate under threat of force? Score three....hat trick!!!!! I win!!!!
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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NoDrama said:
FWIW I never had a measles shot, never needed one, I had the measles as a child.
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I also had the measles as a child but still had to have the MMR vaccine to attend PT school and work in the field. Made no sense, but I never had the mumps so I went with it without a fight.
 
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NoDrama

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ginwilly said:
That's the part I think people are neglecting. If I immunized my children, why should it matter to them if you didn't immunize yours?
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Yep, exactly my point. Also the fact that, If No one was immune to measles, death from it would still be EXTREMELY rare. The Flu killed far more children then measles ever has, but measles is much more contagious.

The FLU shot given out this year didn't prevent any flu. They picked the wrong strains to immunize against.
 
Wavels

Wavels

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ginwilly said:
That's the part I think people are neglecting. If I immunized my children, why should it matter to them if you didn't immunize yours?
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Although I am pro choice regarding vaccinations, herd immunity comes into play.
Therein lies the rub.

Why a few unvaccinated children are an even bigger threat than you think
Anti-vaccine families tend to cluster together, making outbreaks more likely.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/02/03/why-a-few-unvaccinated-children-are-an-even-bigger-threat-than-you-think/
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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NoDrama said:
Yep, exactly my point. Also the fact that, If No one was immune to measles, death from it would still be EXTREMELY rare. The Flu killed far more children then measles ever has, but measles is much more contagious.

The FLU shot given out this year didn't prevent any flu. They picked the wrong strains to immunize against.
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It was even predicted to be wrong but was too late and I was still mandated to take the shot. We are given a choice though, either take the shot or wear a protective mask until May. We had a couple of surgical nurses refuse the shot because they have to wear a mask anyway.

We were actually told before the shots arrived that they would most likely only be about 20% effective but government mandates and all...
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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Wavels said:
Although I am pro choice regarding vaccinations, herd immunity comes into play.
Therein lies the rub.

Why a few unvaccinated children are an even bigger threat than you think
Anti-vaccine families tend to cluster together, making outbreaks more likely.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/02/03/why-a-few-unvaccinated-children-are-an-even-bigger-threat-than-you-think/
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It's outbreaks among people who made a choice, but apparently the wrong choice. Seems like those people experienced consequences to their choices and the rest of us got to learn from it (as well as them). win win?
 
Wavels

Wavels

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ginwilly said:
It's outbreaks among people who made a choice, but apparently the wrong choice. Seems like those people experienced consequences to their choices and the rest of us got to learn from it (as well as them). win win?
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No vaccinations provide 100% protection from any contagion, so these pockets of anti vaxers keep these pathogens alive.

This is probably not a good thing, IMHO.

This is, however, the consequence of providing choice to a free people.
Oh Well.
 
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